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| Ultimate Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Supreme Court Ruling basically takes away private property Quote:
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | That was an incredibly partisan news-item. This is a (quite straightforward) case of expropriation/eminent domain ... as long as they pay just compensation (see fifth amendment) the state are allowed to seize and redistribute your property. What consititues 'public use' may be debated, and that's what the Supreme Court did, but it's not a new development.__________________ This is my confession, I need your heart In this depression, I need your heart | |||
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| I think it's wrong to take someones land for private development. If a PRIVATE DEVELOPER wants land than they need to contact the friggin' landowners and that's what the law should be. They shouldn't be able to hide behind the local governments and have them do their dirty work. It's one thing to pay someone money to build a highway or school and in those cases I think they should look for areas that affect the fewest numbers of people. But seizing someones property and then selling it to a private developer to build a hotel? It's ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. I'm surprised this isn't more of a concern to low-income advocates since many low-income areas constitute these so called "blighted" areas, whatever the hell "blighted" means. If cities are so concerned about tax revenue why don't they just increase the sales tax or cigarette tax or hotel tax orr etc. There are so many different ways to increase tax revenue. And hell, half the time they give business tax BREAKS just to bring their business to the community! Anyways there's never a guarantee new developments will be successfull. | |||
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| This is bad news....I hope my nobody wants to build a mall where I live. | |||
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| I am by no means a legal expert but this seems like a very bad decision to me. Can somebody do a better job explaining it than that horrible article did? Will there be big implications? __________________ When people get the opportunity to talk about the real issues, it becomes clear how vacuous the present agenda is. I have never met anyone in Vermont who thinks it's a good idea to give tax breaks to billionaires and cut back on health care and education. Nobody.-U.S. Representative Bernie Sanders | |||
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| I think all they did was say that for a city to define "public use" as taking land, giving to a private developer, and opening a hotel, etc. is perfectly legal if the tax revenues will be higher. Cities always had the right to take the land, but I believe they could only take land that was blighted and only if they intended the land for "public use." So I think all they did was broaden the definition of "public use." That's probably wrong but that's what I got from it (I heard a few news reports on the TV regarding this as well.) | |||
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| I can see why they voted the way they did... it just doesn't mean I agree with it. I can understand eminent domain being used for public uses such as freeways and schools... but its outrageous to think that any private corporation could stand behind the local goverment and weasel people out of their homes. Like someone said above, I hope nobody decides they want to build something on my land one day... the supreme court has made it pretty hard to fight it now. thanks. | |||
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| Ultimate Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | To build something, as was previously said before, such as schools and highways is understandable. Some homes in my neck of the woods are being taken by the state because a new bridge is being built that would releave traffic congestion and would help inprove the economic flow between two neighboring cities. However, to think that my land, 26 acres that my family has owned for nearly five generations, could be taken by the government and I could be paid some piddly little sum that they have approved and could then be sold to a contractor to build a neighborhood or a hotel or something that would supposedly boost the economy. In all reality it's a crap shoot, there's no guarantee that the hotel or the houses or whatever would boost the economy but a school would relieve overcrowding, a road will releave traffic congestion, those are viable solutions to a presented problem. Building office space, residential areas, and a boardwalk are not solutions but possible just a bandaid to a much larger economic problem in the area. __________________ Real Gamers Wear Pink "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed." — Ernest Hemingway | |||
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| I believe that none of this is at all justified and that the government can try your hardest to make it seem right but they know their wrong. That's unconstitutional. __________________ If anyone remembers me and wonders why I left, I left to go experience life. It hurt me, and continues to hurt me everyday... | |||
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