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Old 07-08-2006, 04:55 AM
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Sexual Abusive Father Avoids Jail Time

I know that there's too many sad stories about kids having to go through these circumstances. But that's not what I'm only horrified at. Refer to the those I've bolded...

Sex abuse father pleads guilty but avoids jail
From: BY Michael Madigan
July 08, 2006

A MAN who sexually molested his daughter 10 times as part of her "sexual education" was spared jail yesterday.

Acting Chief Judge Tony Skoien told a Townsville District Court that jailing the man would only cause more pain to the victim.

He said the offence was the most unusual he had encountered in 25 years.

The man, 36, had pleaded guilty to six charges of indecent dealing with a girl aged under 16 and four more charges of rape by digital penetration. The offences, between April 2004 and June last year when the girl was aged between 11 and 13, came to light when the girl told school authorities.

The court was told the man, from a small north Queensland town, had committed the offences as part of his daughter's sexual education.

The father was immediately removed from the family home and not allowed contact with his daughter.

Defence barrister Greg Lynham said the daughter desperately wanted her father back in the family fold. Now 14, she had told authorities that not being able to speak with her father, with whom she had a close emotional connection, had been extremely painful.

"All I want is for us to be counselled together so we can be a family again," she said.


Psychological reports tendered to the court found the defendant had an "interesting and unusual" personality but was not a pedophile.

Judge Skoien said the man had made a "grotesque" error while explaining sexual behaviour to the girl. But to imprison him when he was not likely to repeat the offence would only further punish his daughter. He sentenced him to 12 months' jail to be served under an intensive correctional order. He will not go to jail but receive counselling and have limitations on his movements.

"I stress this is one of the most unusual cases I have come across in almost one quarter of a century," Judge Skoien said.

He hoped the "insult" the man had inflicted on the daughter would heal. "And I hope you can pick up your lives together."

Bravehearts, a support group for victims of child sex abuse, said it supported rehabilitation of offenders and understood the trauma of pedophilia offences breaking apart families.

But founder Hetty Johnston said no court could ever accept that a person could attack a child in the name of sex education.

"If ever a judge accepted that as an excuse for an attack he or she should be stood down," Ms Johnston said

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This is probably the 2nd time I read an article that has a judge saying something like that. There was an article I posted before the FF crash that the judge said the criminal should be given a second chance (if I remember correctly).

But my opinion on this: WTF?? This is the first I heard of doing this to your kids in the name of "sexual education". And how did the judge have the job he has today.

What confuzzles me a lot is this part:
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Defence barrister Greg Lynham said the daughter desperately wanted her father back in the family fold. Now 14, she had told authorities that not being able to speak with her father, with whom she had a close emotional connection, had been extremely painful.

"All I want is for us to be counselled together so we can be a family again," she said.
Or maybe it's just something I won't understand

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Old 07-08-2006, 05:24 AM
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I have no words on this he shouldn't have done anything with her
She's a mess up kid that wants her father back.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:19 AM
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Thats just nuts. She's a little girl suffering an horrific trauma and the judge is saying putting this man back in her life is going to make it better?

He knew what he was doing and making up some soft soap argument about making an error in judgement is just rubbish.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:54 AM
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that's awful, i really have no words on hoe offensive and replusive i find sexual abuse. that man should've been thrown in jail, the girl needs serious help too. putting the father back in a situation where he'll be around his daughter, he's more likely to do it again.
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:19 PM
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that is crazy.
he deserves to go to jail longer, the victim is a young girl she is just confused with the drama. i'm sure she wouldnt want him abusing other people in the future.
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:46 AM
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He should be put in jail. He will more than likely do this again to his daughter. His excuse of 'sexual education' is just ridiculous. I don't know how the judge wouldn't put him in jail.
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:48 AM
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:52 AM
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OK b4 I say this I'm going to preface it by saying that this is actually a genuine question discussion issue and I'm not trying to get flamed. if it goes too far someone PM me and i'll edit but this is something that has bothered me for a while.

Sexual Abuse happens. Always has. Some soceties have more of it and some less. Some tolerate it more than others. And the defnition of it has shifted a lot over the years. But bassically it's there

Are there any studies about why? I'm aware of the abuse proagates abuse thing but other than that?
It's obvious that some people are just programmed that way. Given soceties revulsion to the idea i can't imagine that people actually *choose* to be attracted to 10 yr olds. And we all know it's very difficult to stop your self thinking about some one you're attrcated to.
I'M NOT DOING THE IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, there's a big difference between thought and action, adults should know that it's wrong.

Are there places where people who know their attracations are wrong can go? can they get help b4 they do commit a crime? I know reprogramming someone's sexuality is notoriously difficult. Does the current climate make it difficult for people who realise it's an issue for them, to get help?

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OK b4 I say this I'm going to preface it by saying that this is actually a genuine question discussion issue and I'm not trying to get flamed. if it goes too far someone PM me and i'll edit but this is something that has bothered me for a while.

Sexual Abuse happens. Always has. Some soceties have more of it and some less. Some tolerate it more than others. And the defnition of it has shifted a lot over the years. But bassically it's there

Are there any studies about why? I'm aware of the abuse proagates abuse thing but other than that?
It's obvious that some people are just programmed that way. Given soceties revulsion to the idea i can't imagine that people actually *choose* to be attracted to 10 yr olds. And we all know it's very difficult to stop your self thinking about some one you're attrcated to.
I'M NOT DOING THE IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, there's a big difference between thought and action, adults should know that it's wrong.

Are there places where people who know their attracations are wrong can go? can they get help b4 they do commit a crime? I know reprogramming someone's sexuality is notoriously difficult. Does the current climate make it difficult for people who realise it's an issue for them, to get help?

input? ideas? disscusion?

thanks
Psychologically speaking you're right.

Pedophelia is beyond a persons control in that it is a chemical imbalance in the brain which is not related directly to sexual pleasure. Because treatments and jail has not worked in reducing the acts of pedophiles psychologists did extra research to conclude that it is not treatable. They, for the time being, do not have any medication or psychological treatment that helps these people. The attraction is not directly linked to sexual pleasure because those men who have been castrated were still attracted to children, without the sexual feelings. In this case it is a purely psychological case and that has to be understood. Anybody can hate these men for stealing the lives of children, but many of them seek help desperately, because they know its wrong. It is indeed something they have little control over.
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:42 PM
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That's horrible! He's not getting what he deserves. I hate people like this.
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Firstly it is obvious that the judge has been softened by the girl's wishes to be put back together, but I think that the judge has made a horrendous mistake. The father should be put away in jail for a long long time. The girl has been messed up and maybe she has got something similar to the Stockholm Syndrome (where people get attached to their kidnappers) but the fact is that she needs counselling, and so does he, but not together because I'm afraid that he'll take advantage of her again - if the temptation is there, you might not be able to resist forever.

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It is indeed something they have little control over.
But the fact remains that everyone has a choice to make, whether to act upon your desires or not. But you've got a very interesting argument there. My question is, what happens if you were brought up in an environment of pedophilia? Is it nature or nuture?
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Firstly it is obvious that the judge has been softened by the girl's wishes to be put back together, but I think that the judge has made a horrendous mistake. The father should be put away in jail for a long long time. The girl has been messed up and maybe she has got something similar to the Stockholm Syndrome (where people get attached to their kidnappers) but the fact is that she needs counselling, and so does he, but not together because I'm afraid that he'll take advantage of her again - if the temptation is there, you might not be able to resist forever.



But the fact remains that everyone has a choice to make, whether to act upon your desires or not. But you've got a very interesting argument there. My question is, what happens if you were brought up in an environment of pedophilia? Is it nature or nuture?
Its been proven to be nature in this case. Biologically speaking, something is wrong with them. It's a mental issue, psychological.
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But for the protection of others, we need to seperate them from the people they may end up hurting the same way we hold people in mental hospitals if we think they are a danger to themselves or others.

This man should not be put back in this situation.
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:58 AM
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The father should be put away in jail for a long long time. The girl has been messed up and maybe she has got something similar to the Stockholm Syndrome (where people get attached to their kidnappers) but the fact is that she needs counselling, and so does he, but not together because I'm afraid that he'll take advantage of her again - if the temptation is there, you might not be able to resist forever.
Good point! The girl may very well indeed have Stockholm Syndrome
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