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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Science News Thread #1 - What Would Einstein Think? ![]() Man Threatens to Clone Himself 14 Times Stem Cell Debate Ian Frazier, Australian Scientist to trial Skin cancer vaccine Banner by 4N6 DNA __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie Last edited by sunnykerr; 03-19-2009 at 05:34 PM. | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Entertainment News #1 ~ It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World! Quote:
This cheered me up like you would not believe. I, too, believe that the dichotomy between economic progress and environmental policy-making is a false one. Sustainable development is not cost prohibitive. In any case, I love the fact that there is finally a sound environmental leader in the White House. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie Last edited by sunnykerr; 03-19-2009 at 05:35 PM. | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I love reading this too! Feeds into my hopes that the new administration can make right sas many as possible of the wrongs the last one did. (It's got to be a hell of a job to get it all better, but this shows that there is at least something that can be done. I wonder if this really is science news, though. It may fit better as politics? __________________ Icon: unknown | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well, it's certainly political news. But I was looking for something to start a scientific news thread and, not being particularly large on time or on scientific knowledge, I went with the story that made the most sense to me. I do consider the environment as falling within the paramaters of the scientific world, especially since almost everything to do with it has something to do with science one way or another. Either way, the thread is up and running now and, should someone else come up with an actual science news story, they now have somewhere to put it. ![]() __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Good you are right that things do have close connection. science, at it's best, should be closely tied in with politics (In the "listen to the reseach" way, not as politicians dictating what the scientists should come up with.I read a lot of science news, I can try to post some here ![]() For starters, anyone got thoughts on this one? BBC NEWS | UK | Ecstasy 'not worse than riding' Quote:
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Oh, thank you so much for collaborating on this one! That's a great story. Of course, I don't know what the heck Professor Nutt (aptly named, if you ask me) is on about. Ecstasy sucks the serotonin right out of your brain. And serotonin is that think that modulates anger and the human apetite as well as rather crucial things like one's ability to sleep, one's body temperature and one's ability to live without constantly seizing. In fact, the lack of serotonin is considered to be one of the causes of sudden infant death syndrome. So, you know, ecstasy may not kill you right off that bat (assuming it's not tainted, because let's face it... drugs? totally safe, right!), but using it is just asking to have the serotonin sucked out of your brain. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| I've been a bit busy this past few days, but I've got the weekend free and am gonna post a bit of recent news on each of the threads but I just had to stop by before bed and post this: 11 words I've been waiting for for 8 years: Obama To Overturn Ban On Federal Funding For Stem Cell Research ![]() | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | that such good news!! Thank you for sharing ![]() I never understood the logics behind the last government's ban on this! The embryos would otherways just have been thrown away anyway! What was the harm in using them for life-saving research instead?? I really cannot see the difference between this and any other kind of organ donation. When a grown up person dies, his heart, lungs etc can be used to save others. But when it comes to a leftover embryo, it's stem cells can not?? What is the sense in that? ![]() __________________ Icon: unknown | |||
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| As for the ecstasy article, I feel that is a major blunder when common sense is used in the wrong context. Just because the amount of deaths is not more than something else, it is not always less dangerous then. Also, you can't just compare the personal deaths to users, you also have to consider the danger someone who is on ecstasy is to those around them; behind the wheel for example. ![]() Quote:
I think this is going to be a great era for scientific research. Obama is not as religiously rooted as Bush was and I think we have a great chance of getting out of the dark ages. ![]() | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Actually, I think Obama is way more religiously rooted than Bush was, but in a way that gives him more plain old common sense rather than zealotry. Bush found God when he dealt with his alcoholism and drug addictions. I'm not saying this is the case for everyone, but it seemed to have turned him into someone who thinks there is only one God and he knows which IT is. Whereas Obama, we know, was raised by atheists or agnostics (I'm not exactly sure which actually) and found a faith that suited him later in life, but it seems a kinda of faith that is true and so allows him to respect other people's creeds. Anyway, that's neither here nor there for the purposes of this thread. I do believe that the stem-cell reversal is crucial to actual breakthroughs in that field. Because we know there are pockets are really excellent research team around the world who have been doing great research in these areas, but no one has the access to funding the way Americans do. That's why Michael J. Fox got his American citizenship. And that's an excellent point, Jessie, on the whole amount of deaths by ecstasy being significant on their own, regardless of whether they are are in large amounts compared to other things. It's like the suicides by metro we get here in Montreal. Basically, the statistics are that, out of every ten people who attempt to kill themselves by jumping in front of the metro, only one succeeds. The other nine don't die... but would you really envy the state they find themselves in? __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Ultimate Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm really excited about the stem sell research. Using embryonic stem cells could really bring about a lot of changes in medicine in the next ten to fifteen years, which is amazing. I'd love to see cures for some of the worlds diseases, like diabetes, or cures for debilitating accidents. I have a good friend whose father was paralyzed after an accident and it would be amazing for him to have access to the technology and information that would make him able to walk again. And I'm thinking of all the soldiers that come back with spine injuries and neurological problems and wonder what great medical advancements can be made there. Using embryos that wouldn't be used or would be destroyed anyway is wonderful. I just don't understand the nut jobs that want to say an embryo in a petrie dish is a baby. That makes no sense at all. __________________ Real Gamers Wear Pink "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed." — Ernest Hemingway | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I think it sort of make sense to say that it is a person. It has the potential for one, anyhow. But it is one that is about to die anyway, has no life ahead of him/her. We accept that parts of dead grownups are used to save others (organ donation) Why should this be any different with embryos? __________________ Icon: unknown | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Yeah, I can see why people would call embryos human life, inasmuch as they are alive. But, as far as I see it anyway, and I'm certainly not asking anyone to share my opinion on the matter, but embryos exist on a cellular level. As an organism. Not as something that could sustain life unaided. Either way, as callace pointed out, we have no problem with borrowing life-saving "material" from grow adults, I don't see why embryos should not be used to research ways to save lives. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ITA ![]() follow-up articles on the OP one: BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | EU needs 'brutal' science advice BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Scientists optimistic over Obama and I particularly recommend this one! It covers a lot of what we have talked about lately BBC NEWS | Special Reports | The presidents' guide to science __________________ Icon: unknown Last edited by Callace; 03-12-2009 at 04:04 AM. | |||
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| so happy about the stem cell stuff, as a scientist, I know first hand the good that this will accomplish...and that is a completely valid point about embryo's vs. organ donors etc.... these are embryo's that are going to be thrown away, I dont think there is going to be a line at the abortion clinic because of this. I can only wonder about the major medical advances that are going to be made! I say give Bush about 25 years when his health is crap and he needs stem cells. __________________ Ask God for anything and you will get an answer; its just that sometimes, that answer is no. free the west memphis three! | |||
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