News & Politics - Schools told to watch for spying

Cail · 10-08-2004, 03:49 AM

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School officials also advised to watch for spying

The Associated Press
Updated: 11:20 p.m. ET Oct. 7, 2004WASHINGTON - Federal law enforcement authorities notified school districts in six states last month that a computer disc found in Iraq contained photos, floor plans and other information about their schools, two U.S. officials said Thursday.

The downloaded data found by the U.S. military in July — all publicly available on the Internet — included an Education Department report guiding schools on how to prepare and respond to a crisis, said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The officials said it was unclear who downloaded the information and stressed there is no evidence of any specific threats involving the schools.

The districts mentioned are in Georgia, Florida, Michigan, New Jersey, Oregon and California. The officials said last month FBI agents in charge of those areas alerted local education and law enforcement officials about the finding.

The officials did not provide the names of the districts. But Salem, Ore., Superintendent Kay Baker confirmed her district was among them.

“Local law enforcement has no knowledge of a specific threat to any of our school buildings,” she said. “We will work collaboratively with law enforcement on any further developments.”

San Diego schools also were included, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune, and ABC News said there was a second California district. The Salem Statesman-Journal reported the other districts were Fort Myers, Fla.; Jones County, Ga.; Birch Run, Mich.; and Franklinville and Rumson, both in New Jersey.

The disc contained an Education Department report called “Practical Information on Crisis Planning: A Guide for Schools and Communities,” published in May 2003, as well as photos and floor plans.

In a separate but more widespread warning put out this week, the Education Department advised school leaders nationwide to watch for people spying on their buildings or buses to help detect any possibility of terrorism like the deadly school siege last month in Russia.

The warning follows an analysis by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department of the siege that killed nearly 340 people, many of them students, in the city of Beslan.

“The horror of this attack may have created significant anxiety in our own country among parents, students, faculty staff and other community members,” Deputy Education Secretary Eugene Hickok said in a letter sent Wednesday to schools and education groups.

The Education Department’s advice is based on lessons learned from the Russia siege. But there is no specific information indicating a terrorist threat to any schools or universities in the United States, Hickok said.

Federal law enforcement officials also have urged local police to stay in contact with school officials and have encouraged reporting of suspicious activities, the letter says.

In particular, schools were told to watch for activities that may be legitimate on their own — but may suggest a threat if many of them occur.

Among those activities:

Interest in obtaining site plans for schools, bus routes and attendance lists.
Prolonged “static surveillance” by people disguised as panhandlers, shoe shiners, newspaper or flower vendors or street sweepers not previously seen in the area.
Observations of security drills.
People staring at or quickly looking away from employees or vehicles as they enter or leave parking areas.
Foot surveillance of campuses involving individuals working together.
The effort is the latest by the Education Department and other federal agencies to encourage school officials to maintain and practice a plan for responding to emergencies.

“It’s a positive sign that they’re finally discussing this after years of downplaying or denying even the possibility of a terrorist strike on schools,” said Kenneth Trump, a Cleveland-based school safety consultant who has worked with officials in more than 40 states. “Public officials are in fear of creating fear, but we have to put the cards on the table, educate people in the school community and make sure they are well prepared.”

After the terrorist takeover of the Russian school, President Bush asked his top advisers to review their strategies for dealing with hostage situations, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge has said.

The federal government is advising schools to take many steps to improve the security of their buildings. Those include installing locks for all doors and windows, having a single entry point into buildings and ensuring they can reach school bus drivers in an emergency.

The Education Department sent its letter by e-mail Wednesday to school police, state school officers, school boards, groups representing principals and many other organizations.

The Homeland Security Department also sent a bulletin to federal, state and local emergency officials to provide fresh guidance based on the review of the school siege in Russia.

This is very disturbing. I would hate for something like what happened in Russia to happen again in the U.S. Especially since the American school system isn't known for knowing what to do in states of emergencies, despite being forwarned that something terrible may happen.

MalloryKeaton · 10-08-2004, 04:15 AM

I think that's terrible. Children can't even be safe in school. Having all the doors and windows locked at the schools may make the children feel like they are imprisioned during school. I know it's important to keep children and faculty safe, but I think it's sad when such extremes have to be taken. I'm glad I'm basically done with school. I graduate from college in December. I'd hate to still be in school (K-12) considering all the problems. I think it's sad that kids think about blowing up schoools, and in some cases have. I guess all the morals and values have gone straight out the window. It might make me sound old, but I know when I was in school (K-12) we knew better. Even if someone though about wanting something to happen to the school, they would never have actually done anything. The generation of children in school now have to experience something far different than what I did. To think I"m only (almost) 26. Yet my schooling was vastly different. Instead of having to worry about our safety 24/7 we were able to calmly sit in school and learn. No wonder why some kids have trouble learning today. How can we expect kids to pay attention to school work, when they don't even know if they'll make it through another school day or not?

Cail · 10-08-2004, 07:18 PM

I know what you mean-- I'm finished with college and was out of high school at the time of the Columbine shooting. I never felt scared when I was in K-12th, and only once during college (9/11) did I fear something terrible would happen at the university. I can't imagine what it must be like for a child to go to school when they constantly hear about school bombings, shootings, etc. Especially those kids in the targeted school districts.

JohannafromIHJ · 10-08-2004, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by MalloryKeaton
I guess all the morals and values have gone straight out the window. It might make me sound old, but I know when I was in school (K-12) we knew better. Even if someone though about wanting something to happen to the school, they would never have actually done anything. The generation of children in school now have to experience something far different than what I did.

Don't be so naive. Things like this happened ten, twenty, thirty, fifty years ago as well. I guarantee you that there were kids in your school thinking of doing what the kids at Columbine did, it's just that it's very rare for a kid to actually snap and do it. Terrorists all over Europe and such have attacked plenty of public places as well. So this is nothing new.

The difference now though, is that politicians are playing on people's fears. It's becaome fashionable to be scared of everything.

Cail · 10-08-2004, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ
Don't be so naive. Things like this happened ten, twenty, thirty, fifty years ago as well. I guarantee you that there were kids in your school thinking of doing what the kids at Columbine did, it's just that it's very rare for a kid to actually snap and do it. Terrorists all over Europe and such have attacked plenty of public places as well. So this is nothing new.

Granted, school violence has always been around, BUT not to this extent. There's huge difference between thinking about doing something grave and actually doing it. And with technology advancing everyday, what is happening with school violence in today's time is a whole hell of a lot different than what happened ten, twenty, thirty, fifty years ago.

**TheAngel** · 10-08-2004, 11:38 PM

Kids don't have trouble learning because of a bomb threat, they have trouble learning because they don't care. I had a bomb threat at my school. It was September 13th, 2001. I've also had gun threats at my school. I still went to school even when I knew about them because if you live your life in fear you're never really living. There's a chance I could get shot in my school, but it's more likely that I could get in an accident in my car and that doesn't stop me from driving.


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