[WalaBridget]

I grew up in a household who is friendly to all kind of religions,our house keeper is a Christen and so are many of my our family friends and my dad is a business man so he has many Jews and bodism friends.Like I was not raised like most of the people here are who have zero knowledge when it comes to other religions.

[TheAngel]

Originally Posted by WalaBridget (View Post) I grew up in a household who is friendly to all kind of religions,our house keeper is a Christen and so are many of my our family friends and my dad is a business man so he has many Jews and bodism friends.Like I was not raised like most of the people here are who have zero knowledge when it comes to other religions.

I generally find that getting to know a lot of people of many different religions is a good thing, because when you do you find out that their faith and their practice may be different but deep down they're exactly like you. I was raised in a Christian household but I don't really have a strong belief system. Some of my parents close friends, and good friends of mine, are Muslim, and my best friend from college is Jewish. It's really a fascinating thing because I've been to some really interesting religious ceremonies because of these relationships and have really gotten insight I wouldn't have without making these relationships.

[vc318]

How can I put this together,in Islam there are modern like religious men who go deep into explaining Quran ( The Islam book like the Bible and Torah) Anyway so they said from the book there that its ok to have one before 2 month because its not a human yet.Islam is complicated because you will find a modern Shia and Suni who agree with abortion and you will see traditional people who refuse to go by it.For example my cousin has an abortion because the baby was already ill and wont live years ago.

Wow, I didn't know that. Is it just a medical or spiritual reason to choose to terminate a life because he or she is sick?

[sunnykerr]

Originally Posted by vc318 (View Post) Wow, I didn't know that. Is it just a medical or spiritual reason to choose to terminate a life because he or she is sick?

I can't answer for WalaBridget, obviously.

But it sounds to me like it's a bit of both. It's medical, because there is a medical reason to terminate the pregnancy (non-viable fetus) and it also has a spiritual element to it inasmuch as terminating the pregnancy is specifically without spiritual rammifications because the fetus is non-viable (and, probably, continuing with the pregnancy would cause harm to the mother).

But, obviously, I can't say for sure.

[Cristofle]

It's fairly common for religions to actually recommend terminating a pregnancy if it endangers the health of the mother- you can see such traditions in Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, for example. Catholics and fundamentalists see it as much more black and white than most other religious traditions I can think of- it's usually very complicated, the laws surrounding it.

Or, if you're a Presbyterian like me, all my church says is "It's a complicated issue to be taken seriously." LOL. That's it. That's their official stance.

[WalaBridget]

Wow, I didn't know that. Is it just a medical or spiritual reason to choose to terminate a life because he or she is sick?

I just seen this sorry
Its more about medically because if the life o the child and the mother is not at risk there is no reason and its absolutely forbidden to abort it,but in some cases like rape you can abort it.It all goes down to the people whatever they wanna do it or not.I come from a huge family like no kidding so I know in some cases they would do the abortion and some of them wont.

[sunnykerr]

First Iraq Census in Decades Skips Religion Details Iraq will hold its first nationwide census in more than two decades in October, but Iraqis will not have to report which religious sect they belong to, a senior government official said Tuesday. The census form will ask about ethnicity and religion but not about a person's specific sect, said Mahdi al-Alaq, head of the Central Statistics Authority. Muslims, for example, will not have to specify whether they are Shiite or Sunni. After decades of repression, Iraq's majority Shiites rose to power with the 2003 fall of Saddam Hussein. Much of the insurgency that followed was driven by the once-dominant Sunnis who felt disenfranchised. And militants from both communities drove the country to the brink of civil war in 2006. "The upcoming census is designed to serve planning and economic development. It has nothing to do with politics," al-Alaq told The Associated Press. "We are not going to ask about who is Shiite and who is Sunni." The Oct. 24 census will be the first since 1987. A census held 10 years later was incomplete because it excluded the three semiautonomous Kurdish provinces. Some 25,000 government workers will fan out across the country to collect information, while a nationwide curfew will be in force on the day, al-Alaq said. Preliminary results will be announced in November, but complete figures, including breakdowns of religious and ethnic groups, will not be available until July 2010, he said. Iraq's population is estimated at around 27 million, but al-Alaq said the October census will likely reveal that it is about 31 million.

http://www.wwrn.org/article.php?idd=30942&con=34&sec=59

I wonder what the reality of this will be. On paper, it sounds like a good idea. But, things being what they are in Iraq, I wonder if this won't be a powder keg.

[sunnykerr]

Cleric who Died in Temple Brawl Was Visiting From India Investigators believe a sermon at a Sikh temple set off an attack that saw worshippers use a frying pan and microphone stands to fend off knife- and gun-wielding assailants who fatally shot a cleric, police said Monday. The death sparked riots in several northern Indian cities. Witnesses said the Vienna temple attended by lower-caste Sikhs was attacked Sunday by Sikhs from a higher caste who accused one or both of the preachers of being disrespectful of the religion's Holy Book. "We're assuming that the content of the sermon was the trigger," Werner Autericky, a high-ranking Vienna police official, told the Austria Press Agency, adding that the motive was not definitive. The attack set off a brawl that wounded 16 people. Police said they found a 9 mm pistol and several knives at the scene. It was unclear if some were kirpans -- ceremonial daggers that may legally be worn by Sikhs in Austria. Two preachers -- identified by Indian diplomats as Sant Niranjan Das and Sant Rama Nand -- had operations for gunshot wounds and Nand died around midnight. The two clerics were visiting Vienna from India, police said, adding they had held services in the same temple on numerous occasions over the past few years without any reported problems. An Indian diplomat familiar with the incident said Niranjan was in stable condition and "cheerful." The diplomat spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter. Six suspects are in custody and four have been identified as asylum-seekers who have lived in Austria for some time, police spokesman Michael Takacs said. In response to the shooting, hundreds in India defied a curfew and army patrols, attacking police stations and torching the car of a senior officer and several trains. In two places police opened fire on mobs, wounding at least four people, said senior police officer Khubi Ram. One person was killed as troops opened fire on an angry mob that attacked a police station in Lambran village. The violence in Indian centred on the northern city of Jalandhar, a stronghold of the Dera Sach Khand, a Sikh sect comprised of mainly "untouchables," or Dalits. Roughly 3,000 Sikhs live in Austria and about half hold Austrian citizenship. Sikhs make up less than two per cent of India's nearly 1.2 billion people. Caste discrimination has been outlawed in India for more than a half century, and a quota system was established with the aim of giving Dalits a fair share of government jobs and places in schools.

CTV.ca | Cleric who died in temple brawl was visiting from India

Oy gevalt! Seriously, no religious book worth its salt prones violence.

[Callace]

Witnesses said the Vienna temple attended by lower-caste Sikhs was attacked Sunday by Sikhs from a higher caste who accused one or both of the preachers of being disrespectful of the religion's Holy Book.

people using religious texts to legitimize their own higher standing than others would of course get pissed off when someone tells people that the text can be interpreted a different way. Sad it had to end in murder

[Miss Kelsey Rose]

Hi, all! My name's Kelsey! It's so nice to see so many religions. It makes me a very happy girl.

I'm a Unitarian Universalist myself. I just recently found my perfect and true religion. I was raised Methodist, but Christianity in its entirety didn't work out for me. The UU church is definitely the place for me.

Anyhow, I agree with you all... It makes me sad to see how these warring religions. Can't we just all join together and treat each other as equals? It's very disheartening.

[vc318]

Originally Posted by sunnykerr (View Post) CTV.ca | Cleric who died in temple brawl was visiting from India Oy gevalt! Seriously, no religious book worth its salt prones violence.

Man, that article was just too much. Religion is a very sensitive topic no matter where you are.

Hi Kelsey and welcome to the board!

[sunnykerr]

Hi Kelsey!

Back Pain Recovery May Help British Cardinal’s Sainthood The recovery that Jack Sullivan, 70, has been describing for almost eight years, a drama that unfolded in August 2001, is on the verge of being deemed a miracle by the Catholic Church, and the unassuming church deacon and father of three is at the center of a campaign to make the late British Cardinal John Henry Newman a saint.

"Back pain recovery may help British cardinal’s sainthood"

I was just trying to find some cheerful religious news, to counterbalance all the other stuff.

Still, pretty cool huh?

[Callace]

I dont know anything about sainthood, but that sounds sort of amusing. Is his miracle supposed to help this other guy become a saint?

[sunnykerr]

I don't know much about the canonization process, but I do know that three miracles have to be attributed to the candidate before it is granted.

[Callace]

then I would really like to know the criteria for a miracle. If they are fixed and checkable, or if any stuff that is considered unbelieveable counts

So this guy is trying to attribute his medical marvel to his sainthood candidate then