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| Extreme Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 2001
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| President Bush defends his response to 9-11 I don't have a link but I read online that President Bush had explained why he did not just get up after the two planes did their damage. He explains that he did not want to cause a panic and upset the kids. I have always given him the benefit of the doubt. I am not sure how I feel on his reasoning. On the one hand, you don't want to see him running out of the room possibly upsetting the kids but then again, the country is being attacked and quite possibly being invaded so he can't just sit there. What are your viewpoints on this? | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Oh, I would have a lot to say about how the Bush administration mismanaged everythin that led to that day and everything that followed it. But I honestly can't blame the guy. Obviously they didn't take the threat of ben Laden seriously, we know this. So it must have been a very serious shock to him. And, no matter how mismanaged the whole lead up to it was, I think he was just stunned. Anyone would have needed a second to recover from that shock. And, let's face facts here, nothing in his life had prepared him to face that challenge. So, yeah, he's only human. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| He needs to come clean about 9/11 and tell us the whole story. __________________ Barack Obama - “So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference. But, it’s one that she’s tried to elevate, arguing that because I don’t force people to buy health care that I’m not insuring everybody. Well, if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesn’t." | |||
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__________________ Carla (aka @Bad_Fluffy... follow the white rabbit ) ~~~~~ We have to be able to criticize what we love, to say what we have to say 'cause if you're not trying to make something better, then as far as I can tell, you are just in the way. -- Ani Difranco | |||
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| I just think it's sad that a trillion dollars is spent on questionable wars yet only a tiny fraction of that value was spent on the investigation of 9/11. There are no excuses in my opinion. We still don't know all the details and facts about 9/11. __________________ Barack Obama - “So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference. But, it’s one that she’s tried to elevate, arguing that because I don’t force people to buy health care that I’m not insuring everybody. Well, if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesn’t." | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2009
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| I don't think that info will ever be given to the public even if they have it. __________________ Emily Credit: Dream1ng | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | There already was an investigation. Both Dick Cheney and George W. Bush were interrogated over everything to do with the events of that day, from the lead up to it to how it was handled afterwards. Only they wouldn't sit down unless it was done in a room with no microphones, no one taking notes (except for the, I believe, four lawyers they brought with them) and no paper trail left of the event whatsoever. So we will indeed never know. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Well, it's still not right in my opinion. We deserve to know what really happened. Are you going to tell me that you believe 100 percent of what you were told about 9/11 by Bush, Uncle Dick, and the media? __________________ Barack Obama - “So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference. But, it’s one that she’s tried to elevate, arguing that because I don’t force people to buy health care that I’m not insuring everybody. Well, if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesn’t." | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2009
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| I agree Jacob we do deserve to know. Innocent people died that day and their families deserve to know the truth. I find it interesting that even after all this time they still won't release what really happened to Kennedy. For whatever reason the government likes it secrets. __________________ Emily Credit: Dream1ng | |||
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| I never thought much about the JFK conspiracy until I visited the Texas Book Depository. When I left I couldn't see how Oswald shot Kennedy from that window and hit him. I hate conspiracies but there is a part of me that doesn't believe the official story. Last edited by ceilirose; 07-30-2011 at 10:08 PM. | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2009
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| I love conspiracies, but yeah that story just didn't fit. And because they won't release the information even now, it does make the situation look more suspicious. __________________ Emily Credit: Dream1ng | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm not really one to believe in conspiracies. I go by Occam's Razor, usually. Whatever the simpler answer is, that's usually where the truth is. But there is no doubt that many people in government tend to be way more paranoid than is really necessary, which leads people to wonder what it is they've got to hide. And with the unprecedented lack of transparency that was the basic hallmark of the Bush Administration, I'm not suprised that people are suspicious. And, given the people involved in that Administration (specifically, the neo-cons), I wouldn't be shocked to find ulterior motives hidden behind ulterior motives and with a dash of conspiracy in it as well. I just... I mean, no one will find out the truth about (for instance) what happened to JFK till long after anyone who cares will have died. So, really, I've kinda moved on. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Well, I guess you could find out eventually about JFK, 9/11, and other conspiracies when you die if you believe in a higher being. I just think conspiracies are interesting especially JFK and 9/11. I get annoyed by people who say "you're a nut" or "you're crazy" when you mention the JFK and 9/11 conspiracies. According to them, the government tells us everything and never hides anything from us. What's wrong with wanting to know the truth? Back to the 9/11 conspiracy, I think United 93 is the most puzzling aspect of the whole thing. I definitely think it's highly possible that United 93 was shot down. __________________ Barack Obama - “So, I focus more on lowering costs. This is a modest difference. But, it’s one that she’s tried to elevate, arguing that because I don’t force people to buy health care that I’m not insuring everybody. Well, if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesn’t." | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2009
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| Didn't Donald Rumseld accidentally say that in a speech he gave? Isn't that how this idea took root? __________________ Emily Credit: Dream1ng | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I had never even heard of the idea that United 93 might have been shot down. Building 7 or whatever it was, definitely looked like controlled demolition to me, but United 93 seemed pretty much like something the people onboard brought about themselves. ![]() As for Rumsfeld, well, he didn't always make the most sense to me anyway. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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