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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
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| Pledge of Allegence Mandatory My senior year at high school, some people were trying to make saying the pledge of allegence in schools a mandatory thing. I faught against it though, because I beleive saying it is right, it shouldn't be forced. The reason for this is in the title. The PLEDGE of allegence. Pledge meaning- 'To volenteer support.' If we make people say it, it's not volentary and therefore is not a pledge, and there we are not free. What do you all think? __________________ If the meaning of your marriage can be cheapened by the marriage of two men, how much could it have been worth to begin with? | |||
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| Ultimate Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | That depends on the school. If it is a private school, then I can understant that. The private school I went to had mandatory pledge every morning, and it's the same as going to a school with a moment of silence or prayer every morning. However, if it is a public school, no one should be forced to say something they don't want to, which is the right that America grants us. We say it every Friday at my school to be patriotic after 9/11. I say it every day in JROTC, so it depends on the situation. __________________ Real Gamers Wear Pink "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed." — Ernest Hemingway | |||
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| I don't think it should be mandatory. I usually don't say it when they say it at my school. Not a single person in there (except maybe some of the teachers) is even thinking about what they're saying. Not that it's a bad thing they're saying; it's just completely meaningless to most students and to force it upon us is pointless. | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
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| In a private school, they have that right, but I'm talking about pulic school. I thinks its wrong to force someone to say something they don't mean. __________________ If the meaning of your marriage can be cheapened by the marriage of two men, how much could it have been worth to begin with? | |||
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| Part-Time Fan ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
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| It should never be manditory. My school attempts to make it manditory but most teachers refuse to enforce it. I personally refuse to pledge to a flag, of a country, that is "under god". But this forced patriotic loyalty, whatnots, is useless. What do you get out of saying the pledge each morning? besides an extra minute out of your day? | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 2000
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| When I was in elementary school is was mandatory. We even had to proev that we knew it by heart. But as I got into middle and high school, as long as we stood up during the pledge, it wasn't required to say. I don't think it should be mandatory. Not everyone believes in the pledge. If that person doesn't want to say it, they shouldn't have to. I personally did not say it. I don't believe in 'pledging' myself to a flag. It doesn't seem right. Ashley __________________ LJ | News & Politics | Battlestar Galactica | TS2 | PS Watch Battlestar Galactica every Friday at 10pm! [/B]![]() | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2000
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| I don't stand or remove my hat when they sing the national anthem at sporting events. __________________ "Talk hard, I like that. It's like a dirty thought in a nice clean mind. " | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
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| it's not the plegde it self I have problem with, or the fact that it is to a flag(which i think is representing the counrty, so you actually pledging to the country). It forcing someone to pledge volentary support. If you force them, its not volentary is it.... __________________ If the meaning of your marriage can be cheapened by the marriage of two men, how much could it have been worth to begin with? | |||
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| In 2nd grade we always sang "My Country Tis of Thee" and said the Pledge every morning. It was kind of fun though. I think of it mostly as like a metahphorical/historical significance. | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 1999
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anyhoo the pledge shouldn't be mandatory because it is voluntary...if you don't want to do it the least you can do is stand at attention in silence and wait 'till it's over...it seems that even consideration is a thing of the past... | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
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| no way, meretwins! Do you remember me? I used to be brokenangel back in the good old days on roswell! I agree that it is our duty to sing and remember the people that died for our freedom. And that those whose don't wish to say the pledge should at least stay quiet through it.... __________________ If the meaning of your marriage can be cheapened by the marriage of two men, how much could it have been worth to begin with? | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 1999
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| hey "formerly known as brokenangel" ...i don't think it's a duty to say the pledge i think it's something you should want to do and you should know why you're saying it...but i also don't see what's so brag-worthy of telling people you don't either....it's your choice either way but there's no need to be disrespectful about it... | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2004
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| I don't think the pledge is a duty, but i think the anthem is, they are two separate things and ideas in my opinion... __________________ If the meaning of your marriage can be cheapened by the marriage of two men, how much could it have been worth to begin with? | |||
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