TokyoNiGHTS

I know there's a thread for shocking news, but JW77 said there were exceptions and I think this is a very big exception. This is just mind boggling

http://www.local6.com/news/4372049/detail.html

I honestly can't think of another story that's made me so upset (both sad and angry) after reading it.

For starters, where were the teachers during this? I remember at all times when I was when school no matter where you were in school (except in the bathroom) there was atleast some authority figure with the students at all times. These (trying to resist using profanity here) "kids" had enough time to punch a girl in the face and then have her perform sex acts on them without any teacher being around? I think it might be time for the police to not only look into this case, but to look into why these kids are allowed to go unsupervised like that.

Secondly, what's wrong with all those kids? You're seeing a girl being brutalised in front of you do nothing? Even if you're afraid to pull them off or say something, atleast go and get someone to get them off of her.

That teacher and the assistant principal...Uggh. I don't know if there's any legal way they could recieve jail time, but if I were the dad i'd have my lawyer look into any possible way there could be to send them to jail. Don't call the police because the media attention? Are you kidding me?

Then those kids that actually did it. Simply put, they deserve to be tried as adults for this. I know alot of people are against anyone under 18 being tried as an adult, but this case is definetly one where it should be.

Sorry for the rambling, i'm just in complete and total awe over this.

LittleMilkJug

I applaud the father for NOT going around beating the pulp out of the boys and the teachers, he has ever right to. My god what low downs

fetch

I keep losing faith in the human race.
I can't believe the teachers were assigned to other schools that easily, either. Ugh.

In Fair Verona

I feel sorry for the schools they have been reassigned to. I wouldn't take them. This infuriates me. I hate how desensitized teenagers and even adults in general are towards disabled and special needs jokes. Thanks to negative connotations these kids have been sub-humanized and it is sick. They're human beings to and the fact that somebody would taken advantage of their disabilities instead of helping them is dispicable and low.

Where was their special needs teacher? In my school those kids are always under the supervision of a faculty member, because unfortunately we cannot trust healthy teenagers to be tolerant and good people. I'm even more upset at the ignorant kids who stood around just watching. It's like a flash back to Nazi Germany, for cripes' sake.

And the teacher's fear of the media attention is the lamest thing I have ever heard. News flash, you're a teacher in a mediocre public high school, not Jennifer Lopez. By next week everybody will have forgotten about what has happened (unfortunately, I do hope that specific people will take it with them for the rest of their lives).

And finally, as for the teenagers, I do think they need to be tried as adults. They were making her do sexual actions and in today's society we regarded sexual situations to be reserved for the 'mature' whether physically or mentally. These kids knew what they were doing.

Sheebs

Dear God. What the hell has happened in this world?! Ugh I feel ill just reading that. That is absolutely terrible.

I agree with everything you said In Fair Verona!!

TokyoNiGHTS

If I had a kid, they'd be taken out of that school. I wouldn't want my kid going to any school that'd put the reputation of that school over the health of my kid. If kids are actually being raped in your school, it doesn't have much of a reputation worth protecting anyway. That entire school adminstration should've been removed I think.

I actually wonder if it goes even deeper than that. Would they have stepped in even if the girl wasn't disabled? Do people now not care enough about one another to just sit and watch someone get raped? Even if I personally didn't get along with a person, there's no way i'm just going to sit and watch something that awful happen to them.

It's lame and scary. How cold hearted can you possibly be to look at someone that's been raped and say "Well, can you not call the police, it could cause too much media attention"? Exactly what did they expect the father to do? Take her home and pretend that none of this had happened? I'd really hate to be the son or daughter of anyone that actually thinks like that.

Yep,. if you're willing to do adult crimes you should be ready to take an adult punishment for those crimes. It's times like this that the media and others really do need to step in and push the point of them being tried as adults.

In Fair Verona

Well, the unfortunate thing is that unlike everybody else in high school, special needs students don't make genuine friends. They socialize with other special needs kids and the few students kind enough to speak to them, but depending on their situation, many of them are unlikely to comprehend friendship. They don't get the oppurtunity to mingle with the other students so nobody gets attached to them.

Though many people perceive high school as hell, I don't think it's that bad. Nearly everybody in high school makes a friend, as long as you have one friend, one person who genuinely cares for you, they will go get help. At my high school, it doesn't matter how much of an outcast or a "loser" you are because there's somebody just like you who will inevitably become your friend. Unless the group watching wasn't just a random group of students and perhaps students affiliated with the attackers... then there might be no hope no matter who you are.

Though it's clear that the reason these guys chose this girl is because she is disabled, they know that she can't fight back. F'ing cowards.

TokyoNiGHTS

I guess a big part of this has to do with them being seperated from everyone else in the school. It makes it easy for people to just group them together and make them outcasts. There's not much schools can really do about that though, except the obvious which is to give them more attention and protection than a regular student which obviously didn't happen here.

I'm just amazed that out of dozens of students there wasn't anyone that did anything about it. It wouldn't be just the friends of the guys that are doing it since it sounds more like all students gathering in that room. Since she was in there i'm assuming there were other special education students in there too and they didn't even do anything.

As I said earlier, I think this school really needs to be investigating. Nothing like this should ever happen in any school. Giving the school admisntrations comments it obvious that if investigated they could find alot more serious things that's went on here. They seem to put their job and school reputation over the students which should never be the case. There's no telling what else they've covered up or have tried to.

Lain

Good night...

I feel so sorry for the girl. Where were the f**n teachers for crying out loud?!? Beating up the girl and practically sexually assaulting her would take at least ten minutes!

What?!? Thank goodness for the father for calling the cops! What's the school worried about anyway? That parents are going to pull their children out of the school. Bastards. Lame and really up!!

TokyoNiGHTS- Did they mention what school was it?

TokyoNiGHTS

Mifflin High School. I've done searches trying to find more info on the school and this case but can't really find any. I'm really interested in seeing where this case goes, specifically what's going to happen to the kids that did this to begin with. I don't know how a month has gone by without any charges being filed, but maybe they're trying to figure out how to try them as adults and that's why it's taking so long.

RedRockSedona

From "The Ledger"


One of the three assistant principals, Richard Watson, said he had found the videotape and then viewed it with other administrators. Their conclusion, they told investigators, was that there had been no coercion

no coercion?

KSBW Channel 8 reports


that special education teacher Julie Calvario said the girl told her about the incident.

"(She said) she was scared and told him to stop, but he hit her in the head and told her to be quiet," Calvario said.

and Watson says no coercion?

Richard Watson not only you are an hole of the worst kind but you should be fired on that count alone

but next we have

Mr. Watson urging the girl's father "not to come pick up his daughter until after the end of the school day "to avoid a confrontation with the suspects,"

and then telling the father to not call the police


Mr. Watson said, 'No we don't want to do that, we don't want the police,"' Upshaw told the investigator.



It isn't enough to say that I am gravely sickened but what I can't understand is why these three assistant principals are getting off on only a 10 day suspention?

But this especially goes for Richard Watson.

TokyoNiGHTS

Wow, just when I thought this case couldn't make me any angrier. Could you even imagine getting a phone call like that. "Hey your daughter has been beat up and sexually assaulted, but could you not come here until school is over. We don't want any confrontations."

How is this Richard character not getting atleast fired? He had the chance to call the police and didn't, he put the schools reputations over the girls health by trying to convince her dad not to call the police. No one like that should ever be put in charge of kids. That entire town should get together and make sure that this guy if fired and every one of those wacky adminstrators that claimed there was no coercion. What the hell is wrong with these people?

fetch

I know, it's horrible. Do they expect him to just sit at home and twiddle his thumbs?

Lain

If anyone else needs to get fired, it's definintly Watson. Look at all the B.S comments he's making. He's the type of person we don't need!

If you ask me, in my opinion, they're not afraid the media is going to further traumatize the girl. They're afraid they'll be exposed as the sons of they really are. They're afraid that if this spreads out, parents are going to be pulling their kids out of the school.

Oh, we don't want this to hit the news so let's just keep this between you and me...

I can imagine this...If they're worried about traumatizing the girl, wouldn't it be common sense to just keep her anonymous. I mean, they did that to Kobe Bryant's case, why not to theirs. But we all know the media...

The funny thing is, the school I go to has a bad rep for so long, parents still let their kids go there (Only difference is, nobody went to the extreme to beat up a handicap).

I hope those boys get tried as adults. I mean, after all, there was assault, there was rape. If they get tried as minors...then the whole goverment system is corrupted.

Sorry for my rants.

froggiepopple

Aren't all of those on faculty mandated reporters. The fact that none of them that knew about it reporting should lose their jobs and never be able to work another school again or anything job field that deals with children. I used to work with developmentally disabled adults and if I ever was to get a VA against me or not report one that was happening if I knew about it. I would lose my job and have a very hard time ever getting hired again anywhere.