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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 2002
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| Jewish elementary school firebombed in Montreal http://www.canada.com/montreal/montr...D-BDD05C732CAE Quote:
(Also? I *heart* Irwin Cotler.) I know where this school is, I used to live near there, my little sister went there for nursery or kindergarten or something like that, I have friends who went to the adjacent high school. There's been a rise in anti-Semitic attacks, but this is the scarist one in Montreal so far. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ (i do not know what it is about you that closes and opens;only something in me understands the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses) e. e. cummings - somewhere i have never traveled | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | The anti-Semitism just keeps coming. In plenty of Europe, this sort of thing happens all the time. __________________ | |||
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| Since the article doesn't say otherwise, I'm assuming no one was actually in the library at the time? No one got hurt? That's one good thing at least. __________________ The worst sin towards our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. - George Bernard Shaw | |||
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| your right sum1 plenty of anti semitism in the EU __________________ "Eve's Bite" Read it and have your eyes opened to the world you live in! | |||
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| Can I ask what anti-Sematism in Europe has to do with an anti-Sematic attack in Canada? __________________ Is this because I'm a lesbian? | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 2002
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It is relevant. Anti-semitism around the world affects everyone everywhere. __________________ (i do not know what it is about you that closes and opens;only something in me understands the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses) e. e. cummings - somewhere i have never traveled | |||
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| This sort of reminds me of the anti-semitic vandalism that was taking place in Toronto only a fews ago. On Bathurst Street, a bunch of houses, a couple of schools, a cemetery, and a community centre were vandalized with graffiti (i.e. Swastikas), windows were broken, and tombstones were overturned. It was all pretty scary stuff. There was a general outpouring of support for the Jewish community from the entire Greater Toronto Area. They caught some of the people responsible. I think one was an eighteen year old and the identity of the other two couldn't be revealed because they were only fourteen (because of the Young Offenders Act). But I think there must have been others involved as well because Bathurst Street is very long and the crimes took place along many different areas along this street, where a large proportion of Toronto's Jewish population resides. If there are others involved, I hope they are caught as well. [ 04-08-2004: Message edited dayne ] __________________ Help Save Angel! www.savingangel.org | |||
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| The neighborhood I used to live in had a large Jewish population and my friend was telling me that there have swastikas being spray painted in the alleys on garages and other buildings. Probably just some young punks, but still it's sad that there are people that think like that in this day and age. What a terrible thing to do though; firebombing an elementary school. Thank God no one was hurt. It's just sad that people still harbor feelings like that and that they would take out their anger and hatred in such a manner. Not to mention how scary it is; if they do it at night, what's to say they couldn't do it during the day? [ 04-08-2004: Message edited mh67511 ] | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Oct 2000
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| There have still been no arrests in the anti-semitic riots at Concordia University in Montreal, despite acts of violence being caught on videotape. I think this sends a very bad message, and may have contributed to the outbreak of incidents in Canada this year. [img]smilies/abduct.gif[/img] [img]smilies/read.gif[/img] __________________ The Universal Friendship League? Could it sound any creepier? | |||
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| I'm really tired of stupid people who can't make the difference between what's going on in Isreal and what's going on in their country, i dunno it has sthg to do with what hapenned in Canada, but i know that in France, most of anti-semit accidents are related to that. Lot of people are too narrow-minded to see that most of jewish people are innocent and that it's not up to them to make things change over there -_-' __________________ | |||
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| http://www.canada.com/montreal/montr...0-2879C618FAE8 Quell the fire of hate The Gazette Friday, April 09, 2004 The Western world has come by hard roads to the practice of religious liberty and mutual acceptance. As recently as 450 years ago, the Peace of Augsburg decreed that the local prince would decide, for each little German statelet, which religion everyone would follow, Lutheran or Roman Catholic. There was little room for dissent, and even less for nonofficial faiths. Before that treaty, and after it, great sections of Europe were repeatedly ripped apart by merciless wars between factions of the Christian religion. Elsewhere around the world, too, men heard God tell them to kill those who worshipped differently. But slowly, painfully, with many reverses, a new approach evolved. Increasingly, minority faiths were tolerated. Religion came to be seen as a private matter. By staying mum about it, increasingly important governments could claim the allegiance of all. By the time of the American Revolution, far-sighted statesmen saw the wisdom of flatly forbidding the idea of any official religion. In Montreal this week, we were painfully reminded that this great march of human enlightenment is in no way unstoppable. The firebombing of a Jewish school's library, a glimpse into the pit of sectarian hatred and violence, made Montrealers recoil in anguish and alarm. Anti-Semitism, that ancient evil, defies the progress we have made, over the centuries, in learning to live together. Through those centuries is woven the thread of the Jews, a majority nowhere, controlling no government, sometimes tolerated but often used as scapegoats, taxed and pillaged and expelled and slaughtered at the whim of rulers and underclasses alike. Bit by bit, law and social practice in Western countries became more open. By 1900, in Canada as in the United States, Catholics and Protestants dominated society, and Jews were the only other substantial religious group. Anti-Semitism was still common, but by this time was more often sly than violent. The horror of Nazi Germany's insanely systematic slaughter of 6 million Jews made clear to the whole world just how shameful was the long, dark history of anti-Semitism. More and more voices rose against anti-Semitic acts and tracts and speech and attitudes. Slowly again, and with more setbacks, tolerance - with its overtones of condescending superiority - gave way to the more welcoming concept of pluralism, in religion and also in culture and language and more. These liberating tools of coexistence have come steadily closer, since the Second World War, to being the norm in our society. They work, assuring each individual the optimum free choice in life. And so the firebombing at United Talmud Torahs school this week, coming as it did on the eve of the Jewish holy days of Passover and the Christian Easter week, was doubly shocking, reminding us sharply of the religious differences that for so long were the reason, or the pretext, for so much harm. Anti-Semitism, like any prejudice, is a repudiation of the hard-won wisdom of religious (and cultural) pluralism. But anti-Semitism is also unlike other prejudices: because Jews have been the targets of so much hate over the centuries, anti-Semitism has come to embody, for many people, the depths of human weakness and evil. Headlines from around the world remind us daily that there are still people eager to kill in the name of religion or to express political grievances through religious hatred. The virus of violent bias may never leave the human bloodstream. To keep it under control, even, demands unceasing vigilance and constant reaffirmation of the equal dignity of every individual, every faith, every culture. This week's crime has brought our city an opportunity to make that reaffirmation, and Montrealers of all kinds have done just that. The Gazette shared fully in that rejection of violence and hate in an editorial Wednesday, and we do so solemnly again today. Now, daily, let us all support, and live, these values Montrealers share. Because if we can't go forward together, we are doomed to go backward. © Copyright 2004 Montreal Gazette __________________ Peace, Love and Roswell | |||
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| Master Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 2002
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| Maggie aka Sarah: I started reading a paragraph from the middle of that and I was wondering why it looked so familiar - I read that in the paper this morning [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] I've never seen anyone besides me link to a Montreal paper...do you live here? (Or if you dont wanna answer cause of internet privacy, I can shut up.) __________________ (i do not know what it is about you that closes and opens;only something in me understands the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses) e. e. cummings - somewhere i have never traveled | |||
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| elisheva: [img]smilies/wave.gif[/img] I also read the article this morning. And yep... I live in Montreal. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] And as a Montrealer this act of terrorism aimed against school children is very upsetting to me. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] But I am very proud of all the politicians and religious leaders, Christian, Jewish and Muslim, who have stepped forward to denounce this crime. Yep... I am Canadian... as as the anthem goes... am willing to "stand on guard for thee"... and part of standing on guard for my country, in my opinion, is to openly denounce those who use terror and violence in order to further any political goal, as well as those who commit hate crimes against any racial, or religious groups. Abducted Bookworm: By my memory there was at least one arrest vis-à-vis the riot at Concordia. A perennial agitator, who seems to love to get attention by being arrested, was arrested several months afterwards. The same guy was also banned from the campus for 5 years. Oh and this guy wasn't a Concordia student. Concordia held their own hearings, which I believe were student run... and by my memory several "cough cough... students" were banned from the campus along with some non students. To much complaint from the usual complainers. Sigh. I agree with you though that the handling of the riot at Concordia was too lax. In my opinion, the guy who was arrested and those who got banned, got off way way way more lightly then they should have. From my point of view, that laxness did convey the implied message that violence in the name of political/racist whatevers is okay. Sigh. Maggie __________________ Peace, Love and Roswell | |||
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| Terrible tragedy; was afraid that the violence in the Middle East would spread to North America... __________________ "Perception is reality." unknown | |||
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