News & Politics - Israel, Palestinians to declare formal truce

mh67511 · 02-07-2005, 12:08 PM

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Israel, Palestinians to declare formal truce

]JERUSALEM - The Israeli and Palestinian leaders will declare a formal end to more than four years of fighting at a summit Tuesday in Egypt, both sides said Monday.

Israeli and Palestinian negotiators finalized the agreement during last-minute preparations Monday.

“The most important thing at the summit will be a mutual declaration of cessation of violence against each other,” said Saeb Erekat, a Palestinian negotiator.

An Israeli government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed the cease-fire agreement, saying that the deal would also include an end to Palestinian incitement.

Earlier Monday, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ended two days of meetings in Israel and the West Bank by announcing that President Bush will meet separately this spring with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

“This is a time of hope, a time we can hope for a better day for the Palestinian and Israeli people both,” she said.

In Washington, President Bush said peace prospects had improved with Abbas’ election.

“Prime Minister Abbas comes to the table with a mandate from a lot of Palestinians,” Bush told reporters. “He has been through an election. He was been endorsed by the Palestinian people.”

He said he was impressed by Abbas’ commitment to fighting terror, and by Israel’s assistance in the Palestinian elections.

Looking ahead to the talks, Bush said, “The meetings just indicate that there’s more work to be done. And I look forward to meeting with them.”

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the visits would likely be in March or April.

Rice also said the United States’ partners in a coalition to promote Middle East peace — Russia, the United Nations and the European Union — would meet sometime this month for the first talks since the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat gave new life to peace hopes.

Bush’s Abbas invitation represents a significant shift from the U.S. position in recent years when he viewed Arafat as a major impediment to peace. The Bush administration refused to deal directly with Arafat and peace negotiations stalled.

General to play security role
Rice also said Lt. Gen. William Ward was named a new Palestinian “security coordinator” and would make his first trip to the region with the next two weeks.

“The Palestinians will be the first to tell you that they need help,” training, equipping and unifying their security forces, Rice said.

She said Ward will have a direct line to her.

Rice has previously said the United States has no plans to appoint a high-level diplomatic envoy to represent the United States in the peace process. The security coordinator would represent a less formal U.S. involvement.

Ward, in a military career spanning more than three decades, has served in top Army positions as well as on the Joint Chiefs staff.

The three-star general in late 2002 was appointed to the command of the 17,000-strong peacekeeping contingent in Bosnia. He also has served in Korea, Egypt, Somalia and Europe.

$40 million in 'quick' aid
In a visit to the West Bank on Monday, Rice also said the United States will provide more than $40 million in aid to the Palestinians during the next three months.

Rice, at a news conference in Ramallah with Abbas, called the aid package a “quick action program” that would have an “immediate positive impact.”

The issues and obstacles in the Middle East peace process
She said the money would be used to create jobs and improve infrastructure.

“This is a time of hope, a time we can hope for a better day for the Palestinian and Israeli people both,” she said.

Abbas thanked Rice for the U.S. assistance. He also thanked her for helping last year when Israel announced plans to seize some property owned by Palestinians in Israel.

“We hope that the Israeli side also will meet its obligations because this is the only path” to achieve the ideal of the two states existing side by side in peace, Abbas said.

Rice said the $40 million in aid is part of the $350 million that Bush pledged during his State of the Union address.

According to the State Department, the aid will be from money set aside earlier for a seawater desalinization plant in Gaza. The money will not go directly to the Palestinian Authority, but will be channeled through private relief and economic groups.

Rice’s two-day visit to Israel and the West Bank headquarters of the newly elected Palestinian government is meant to nudge both sides to take hold of what Rice has called “a time of opportunity” and end four years of war.

She said what she has heard from both sides bodes well for their summit Tuesday in Egypt.

“The U.S. will do its part,” she said.

Visit with Sharon
Rice met privately Sunday with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, the former warrior turned potential peacemaker.

Sharon greeted Rice warmly, telling her in English, “you are among friends.”

“Her visit, I believe, will contribute to the peace process that we so much want to advance,” Sharon said in Hebrew.

In a boost to peace prospects, the mainstream Palestinian movement Fatah said Sunday it would agree to a mutual cease-fire with Israel in the West Bank and Gaza. Fatah also ruled out attacks against civilians inside Israel.

Palestinians hope for such a mutual declaration when Abbas meets Sharon at a summit in Egypt. Rice is not attending that gathering.

Rice’s visit also comes as Israel backed off its long-standing refusal to release Palestinian prisoners accused of violence against Israelis. Israeli officials said top aides to Sharon and Abbas also have agreed to form a committee to study additional Palestinian prisoner releases.

Rice is making an eight-day trip through Europe and the Middle East, her first overseas diplomacy since taking over from Colin Powell at the State Department.

The new Palestinian leadership has embraced nonviolence, deployed police to keep the peace in Gaza and won pledges from militants to halt attacks on Israel.

Israel has promised to release hundreds of prisoners, stop offensive military operations and gradually pull out of five West Bank towns.

Gaza protest over prisoners
Thousands of Palestinians took to the streets in Gaza on Monday to urge Abbas to link any revival of peacemaking with Israel to the release of nearly 8,000 Palestinians from Israeli jails.

In a goodwill gesture to Abbas, Israel announced last week it would free 900 Palestinian prisoners, but not any convicted of deadly attacks.

Palestinian leaders voiced disappointment that veteran prisoners Israel describes as having “blood on their hands” would remain behind bars, and both sides agreed on Saturday to set up a joint committee to set criteria for release.

Hailing Abbas’ efforts to coax militants into a truce, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said Israel would release the jailed son of Marwan Barghouthi, a grassroots leader in the West Bank.

Marwan Barghouthi was sentenced to five life terms by Israel after being convicted of orchestrating attacks that killed Israelis. His son, Qassam, was arrested in 2003 and accused of membership in a “terrorist organization.”

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the_mystic_dude · 02-07-2005, 12:31 PM

It's about time!

I'm so glad Arafat is finally gone. I mean I'm glad the israelis didn't kill him but that he died peacefully, and now there are no more obstacles to the peace process. His death and Abbas's leadership create so many possibilities for the palestinian and the isreali people. I am confident they will one day live next to each other in peace like Germany and France for instance.

KeithUrbanfan · 02-07-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the_mystic_dude

It's about time!

I'm so glad Arafat is finally gone. I mean I'm glad the israelis didn't kill him but that he died peacefully, and now there are no more obstacles to the peace process. His death and Abbas's leadership create so many possibilities for the palestinian and the isreali people. I am confident they will one day live next to each other in peace like Germany and France for instance.

ITA

coolove · 02-07-2005, 02:20 PM

Thanks for posting this. I'm interviewing a former Israeli-Palestinian terrorist for class tomorrow. I'll bring this up.

marina86 · 02-07-2005, 02:48 PM

Well, I live in Israel. I'm hoping this will work.

mystic_dude - France and Germany..well I can only hope.

And coolove - Israeli-Palestinian?

did you mean a former Palestinian terrorist ?

Milt Palacio · 02-07-2005, 02:50 PM

That's really great news.

sick little jag · 02-07-2005, 06:58 PM

I think this is wonderful. Hopefully it will last and the Irsaelis and Palestinians can live in peace together.

the_mystic_dude · 02-08-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by coolove

Thanks for posting this. I'm interviewing a former Israeli-Palestinian terrorist for class tomorrow. I'll bring this up.

What??? Are you kidding me? "A former Israeli-Palestinian terrorist for class"??? How can one be a "former" terrorist? Terrorism is not like a day job or so, that's a extreme world view. You can't just tell 16-year-olds one day to blow themseleves up and the other day go to classrooms, and even if you do, I don't think that's something school kids should be dealing with. And if that guy really practiced terrorims, either by killing innocent people himself or by telling others to do so, he should be prosecuted, not teaching anybody!

If one day in college my teacher says "may i introduce you to Mr. Sarqawi, a former terrorist and beheader" I'm gonna kill that SOB.

marina86 · 02-08-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the_mystic_dude

What??? Are you kidding me? "A former Israeli-Palestinian terrorist for class"??? How can one be a "former" terrorist? Terrorism is not like a day job or so, that's a extreme world view. You can't just tell 16-year-olds one day to blow themseleves up and the other day go to classrooms, and even if you do, I don't think that's something school kids should be dealing with. And if that guy really practiced terrorims, either by killing innocent people himself or by telling others to do so, he should be prosecuted, not teaching anybody!

If one day in college my teacher says "may i introduce you to Mr. Sarqawi, a former terrorist and beheader" I'm gonna kill that SOB.

I guess I agree. He killed people and nothing will change that.

I was kinda wondering how someone could be both Israeli and Palestinian

Israeli- Palestinian terrorist.?

I think I missed something

Seraphina · 02-08-2005, 07:06 AM

Nice Walt, I`m assuming that the killing him part is a figure of speach? If not...pffff

Anyway, people change, you can`t underestimate the factors surrounding this person, perhaps he is the type of person that is easily persuaded and pressured into something. Or maybe he really believed all of this, but was young at the time. Doesn`t make him any less of a terrorist, but people make mistakes, some more serious than others, and please realize how different the situation probably is where he grew up, because it`s always easy to judge these things from the outside.

And maybe this guy has done his time already or is doing his time right now. Maybe he hasn`t changed at all. But talking to him seems like a learning oppertunity whichever of the above it is.

And no, I don`t support terrorism in any way, shape or form and I agree with Walt, but I think it`s to harsh to say it that way. Just my opinion of course

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LUv,

Nettie.

the_mystic_dude · 02-08-2005, 09:15 AM

Wahhh, you're stalking me!!! And no, I'm serious in killing sarqawi, didn't I say that some time ago already in an msn chat we had? I remember writing to someone after watching a beheading on the internet that I'd like to behead sarqawi if I had the chance to. Don't remember?

And yeah, people do change, but the people whose death he caused are DEAD! and for killing someone you deserve the death penalty, not run around in schools manipulating young kids. Unless of course, they're the good ones and kill the bad ones. Good ones being us. Bad ones being, well you get it I think...

P.S. Do me a favor everybody, vote for Maura Tierney because it was her birthday last week and coz the Patriots won!

Seraphina · 02-08-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by the_mystic_dude

Wahhh, you're stalking me!!! And no, I'm serious in killing sarqawi, didn't I say that some time ago already in an msn chat we had? I remember writing to someone after watching a beheading on the internet that I'd like to behead sarqawi if I had the chance to. Don't remember?

And yeah, people do change, but the people whose death he caused are DEAD! and for killing someone you deserve the death penalty, not run around in schools manipulating young kids. Unless of course, they're the good ones and kill the bad ones. Good ones being us. Bad ones being, well you get it I think...

P.S. Do me a favor everybody, vote for Maura Tierney because it was her birthday last week and coz the Patriots won!

*thinks real hard* I think I remember. I understand it, even if I don`t agree. The second point you make...I disagree with the death penalty all together, so our opinions will differ on that anyway I guess, even though, again, I understand it in this case.

And yeah, vote for Maura. Just because

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LUv,

Nettie.

PS: *huggles Walt* I`m not stalking you, I just like jumping on your posts

the_mystic_dude · 02-08-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Seraphina

*thinks real hard* I think I remember. I understand it, even if I don`t agree. The second point you make...I disagree with the death penalty all together, so our opinions will differ on that anyway I guess, even though, again, I understand it in this case.

And yeah, vote for Maura. Just because

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LUv,

Nettie.

PS: *huggles Walt* I`m not stalking you, I just like jumping on your posts

Yeah yeah yeah, don't you look for excuses, Nettie!

As far as I can see from your profile, you've never posted in the politics section before. But eh, I don't mind being stalked

, especially not by hot 19 year old girls.

Seraphina · 02-08-2005, 10:50 AM

At the risk of getting off topic here

Tsssssssss Walt, I`ve posted here before, maybe just once or twice, but I know I at least introduced myself and I believe I`ve posted in the Abortion discussion once...

*promises not to post off topic thingies anymore*

LUv,

Nettie.

the_mystic_dude · 02-08-2005, 10:57 AM

alright alright

But I don't think it matters if you go off topic here, does it? Nobody else seems to be participarting in this thread and if nobody posts it will eventually die.

but as usual you're right, we can always PM, email or MSN off topic stuff.


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