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Old 01-12-2005, 09:54 AM
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Hunt for WMD's in Iraq has ended!

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The hunt for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in Iraq has come to an end nearly two years after President Bush ordered U.S. troops to disarm Saddam Hussein. The top CIA weapons hunter is home, and analysts are back at Langley.
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President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top administration officials asserted before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program, had chemical and biological weapons, and maintained links to al Qaeda affiliates to whom it might give such weapons to use against the United States.
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Bush has expressed disappointment that no weapons or weapons programs were found, but the White House has been reluctant to call off the hunt, holding out the possibility that weapons were moved out of Iraq before the war or are well hidden somewhere inside the country. But the intelligence official said that possibility is very small.


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Now that certainly was a succesful little venture wasn't it?
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:07 AM
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Guess there were none.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:10 AM
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Guess there were none.
That is the understatement of the century.

But hey... At least Saddam is out of power and the people are "free" and no terrorists are there, end sarcasm
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:12 AM
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That is the understatement of the century.

But hey... At least Saddam is out of power and the people are "free" and no terrorists are there, end scarcasm
Bush did a great job of making up excuses for being there till one stuck (kinda).

1.) We were there to get those WMD's.

Nope!

2.) Saddam had connections to Bin Laden.

Nope!

3.) Umm...So we can remove that evil Saddam from power?

Ding ding!
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:36 AM
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Never thought I'd see this! Now if he could get home the rest of the crew as well...
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:27 AM
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If this weren't so tragic on so many levels it would almost be funny.

Bush is disappointed...after all the deceptions, the macho posturing and rheotoric, the lives lost, the billions spent and American credibility generally going down the toilet all Bush can say is that he's disappointed?

We all know that this will not even make the top news this evening. The media will continue their navel gazing regarding Dan Rather and how evil CBS and Rather finally got what's coming to them. Oh wait..I forgot about Angelina really coming between Brad and Jen.
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:32 AM
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If this weren't so tragic on so many levels it would almost be funny.
I wasn't really laughing at the situation we're in. I'm laughing at the White House wanted to keep looking even though since before we went to war they haven't been able to find anything.

Perhaps Bush can continue to look under his desk for those WMD's?
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:39 AM
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I wasn't really laughing at the situation we're in. I'm laughing at the White House wanted to keep looking even though since before we went to war they haven't been able to find anything.

Perhaps Bush can continue to look under his desk for those WMD's?
I know and I'm not really either. It's tragic but at some point you have to look at what Bush has done, his reaction and the almost guaranted non-reaction of our media plus most of our citizens and you almost have to laugh. Probably a bitter laugh..but a laugh it is.
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:08 PM
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Now that certainly was a succesful little venture wasn't it?
Well considering that it is well documentated that GW was given the wrong intelligence by intelligence community, I think most people knew after awhile there would be no WMD's.
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:16 PM
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Well considering that it is well documentated that GW was given the wrong intelligence by intelligence community, I think most people knew after awhile there would be no WMD's.
He was given the right intelligence by the people he sent over there to check for them. They couldn't find any, he couldn't accept that they couldn't find any.
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:38 PM
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Well considering that it is well documentated that GW was given the wrong intelligence by intelligence community, I think most people knew after awhile there would be no WMD's.
Which wrong intelligence is that?

The one that sad Saddam had ties to Bin Laden and Al Queda... Or the one that said there weren't any WMDs, but they falsified it anyway (and said there was) because needed an excuse to go to war anyway?

The buck has to stop somewhere.

If not just for the sake of truth itself and not just allowing people and governments to do whatever they want to do without the thought of real world consequences I.E. lives lost, families shattered, a whole generation torn up (literally) and disallusioned, America's creditibilty almost non-existant, etc.
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:27 PM
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Which wrong intelligence is that?
Exactly, what intelligence supported the invasion? You mean that "SH was in violation of UN resolutions and the UN cease-fire agreement"? That they violated No-fly zones? They refused compliance with weapon inspectors?

The media pushed Bush and Blair into admiting there were no known ties between Saddam and Bin Laden. From there it went to prepared scripts with approved questions and answers, with deviation resulting in loss of White House press credentials. This is a very secretive administration that relies primarily on well-groomed official press releases and limited TV appearances to sate the press and the public.

No one besides the US agreed to the no fly zones, not the UN and certainly not Iraq. This is just another example of the US unilaterally "upholding" UN resolutions. Nor did they refuse comliance with the inspections program. Iraq was first declared WMD free by our own hand picked UN inspectors less than a year after the first gulf war. Since the US was unhappy with this, we (the US) unilaterally changed the inspection requirements. Still, every time the inspection teams went in Iraq was declared WMD free, and eventually the UN, in cooperation with Iraq, had sent in a team to comprehensivly clear Iraq, inspecting every shack and house in order to get the US to finally agree that Iraq had no WMDs. And do you know what we did? We invaded two weeks before the report was completed.

This president had an agenda, and he was not going to let facts get in the way.

The Oil for Food "scandal" (which we are now learning was only not common knowledge in the US) is a pretty good example of the rest of the world telling us to go stuff our unilateral agressions somewhere dark and cramped.
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Bush owes the World an apology. He should be impeached or better yet tried as a war criminal. He is a loose cannon and more dangerous than any third world dictator due to the Arsenal he has at his disposal. Bush could very easily cause the end of mankind as we know it.
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Old 01-12-2005, 07:24 PM
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Bush owes the World an apology. He should be impeached or better yet tried as a war criminal. He is a loose cannon and more dangerous than any third world dictator due to the Arsenal he has at his disposal. Bush could very easily cause the end of mankind as we know it.
Personal responsiblity and owning up to one's mistakes! You better be careful, those are dangerous liberal ideas!
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:17 PM
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Bush has expressed disappointment that no weapons or weapons programs were found
I understand that he did what he thought was right(at the time), but in retrospect, he should be kicking himself in the butt. This country is for the moment safe from terrorists and nuclear threats. Not 'disappointed'. Why is he disappointed? He should be relieved! :rollsyeyes:

I'm shocked, upset, and appalled that he can say "No WMDs? Well, that sucks." That's what I'm getting from the word 'disappointment' used.
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