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| His party may want Romney to go to town on this policy clash but surely that only stands any chance if wrapped up in the general theme of the economy. And an actual alternative. In any event, are we not having quite thr wrong debate here? Whether yiu favour a Republican vision for healthcare or NHS, which nation can claim to be prepared the needs of both an ageing and rising population? __________________ O, rank is good, and gold is fair, And high and low mate ill; But love has never known a law Beyond its own sweet will. - John Greenleaf Whittier | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I agree that it would be counter-intuitive to anyone with half a brain to go on the attack without a counter-proposition. I'm just not sure that'll stop them. I'm sure they'll try to attack Obama's record on the economy, because the economy ain't good right now. But, if you look at what it was when he walked into Office and what it is now, there's been improvement. And this is despite the fact that the U.S. economy heavily relies on foreign involvement one way or another and the there is a global economic crisis going right now. And it has been going on since 2008. Mind you... maybe this is the wrong debate to have... not sure why that would be, though. It's hard to do a comparative analysis of national preparedness with regards to aging populations and related issues when I have no idea what the plans are for most nations. Also, I think the fact that those plans change whenever there's a change of administration in any one country makes it all the more difficult to ascertain with any credibility what these plans are. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Quote:
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | And if professionals have been using a version of this since 2002, I have to believe that many of the kinks will have been worked out by now. The only thing I can think of, aside from the very good point about false postives/negatives, is that perhaps there may be a need for a learning curve for non-professionals. I'm not familiar with home pregnancy tests, but I presume there had to be some sort of learning curve there as well. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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I share the concerns of the health organizations who feel this may engender a false sense of security. The findings show that the risk may be reduced by as little as less than half. That's not nearly good enough for what this drug purports to offer. And we're not even getting into the possible side effects of every drug in the world, up to and including this one. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Yeah, I have to say I'm not too sure about this either. Especially since there is already something out there which is almost 100 % effective in preventing HIV - a condom. __________________ | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I mean, maybe if it's something that health professionals have been using for years, you could see how there could be some situational merits to a drug like this. But health professionals are obviously way more educated about how to handle the actual impact of this drug, so I really don't think it compares with the expectations you can have of the general public. Plus, I have no figures on this, but I have heard that we've been experiencing a bit of an upswing in new cases of AIDS diagnosed among youth, because they don't remember the 80's (not having been born, probably) and also because we do know that there are drug cocktails now that can allow people to live with HIV and AIDS quite a lot longer than they used to be able to. So that's also built a false sense of security... __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Another new drug approved: Quote:
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Cardiac health is a very big concern with obese people, one way or the other. The weight is a strain on their heart and losing it too rapidly also throws the heart into disarray. So I think it's a good sign they're concerned about that. As for the rest, I agree with you. Sounds to me like changing your diet and exercizing is the way to go. Mind you, in this instance, the false confidence of the drug might enable those who just need a little push to actually make a significant change. Anyone who thinks the job will do the work for them are likely to be in for a rude awakening. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | That's a good point ... if the drug pushes them towards the lifestyle changes too then that's a good thing. I just fear people will see it as a miracle cure and take it with no changes in lifestyle... __________________ | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Oh, I share that fear. And, again, any drug has side effects. So anyone expecting that drug to do all the work for them will not only have a rude awakening, but they're opening themselves up to unknown medical consequences. On the whole, though, I choose to be hopeful. ![]() __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | And I choose to be cynical, because I've found that is, in my experience, what will happen. I hope you're right though.__________________ | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well, I said "on the whole." I do think the world is full of people who will try the shortcut. I know that. But I also know there are a lot of people who have good intentions. I look at my dad, who was diagnosed with diabetes at age... I don't know 68 or 69. He controls it with diet. The pills made him loopy and it's not enough of a problem right now that the doctor felt the pills had to be imposed. So he controls it with diet and exercise. Which means my dad, who for 68 or 69 years knew that a meal was over because he'd had a sweet desert at the end of it, hasn't eaten much by way of desert in over a year. And he's doing well. He's walking four or five kilometres every day, and he's always hated walking. He's eating well. He only drinks a glass or two of wine a day. If he can change his deeply engrained habits so late in life... I do think there's hope for just about everyone out there. Because this is not a man who changes. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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So, I'm not one to be overly paranoid or anything. But, couldn't a good reason for developing drug resistance is that the HIV virus in parts of Africa has been submitted to much testing of this drug and that drug by pharmaceutical companies that it has evolved and mutated into a drug-resistant strain? Couldn't that also account for an increase in drug-resistant HIV cases? I mean, I'm on board with large swatches of Africa lacking adequate health care in all sorts of ways, from facilities to personnel to materials and so forth... But we also know that Africa's long been a testing ground in many ways as well. __________________ Sunny "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie | |||
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| Elite Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I think that might well be the case. Some good news: Quote:
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