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| Passionate Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2001
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| Frat brothers scrawled slurs on dying pledge Quote:
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| Childish and pathetic? Yes. But I don't know if I can say they knew he was dying when they did this. Its not that easy to tell if a person has alchol poisining. God, I got smashed a couple of weeks ago, after drinking a LOT, and they just put me to bed. No-one usually thinks to take someone to hospital unless they're throwing up and really sick. If they're just lying thee? Then most people just think they've passed out. __________________ Is this because I'm a lesbian? | |||
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| Whether they knew he was dying or not, this makes me so mad. I hate fraternities and sororities and all the hazing that is involved to become a member. Especially since the hazing revolves around having the pledges drink alcohol beyond belief and/or humiliating them. A person who is passed out is still a cause for alarm. It's not like the guy was moving or snoring to show he was trying to sleep it off. He was in the same exact position as they left him. | |||
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| I'm not saying that the frat isn't partly at fault here but i don't think they knew. its hard to tell whether someone is just sleeping it off or not. if one of my friends got that way i'd probably just make sure they're laying on their side and put a trash can beside them. | |||
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| Now I'm no lawyer, but he was 18 years old. You cannot legally buy or drink alcohol if you are under 21. Therefore the liquor store who sold him the alcohol OR those who provided him the alcohol (which I assume are the memebers in the frat) ARE somehow/somewhate liable I believe. It might be state by state though, but I think they could argue, had he not been given/been able to buy alcohol then he would not have drank, and therefore would not have died. Obviously it's not murder, but the fact is they provided him with alcohol and pressure him to drink massive amounts of it. You DON'T die from drinking just a few beers. But the fact is his BAC must have been VERY high to die from it; I think I read it was .35 somewhere. I am interested in knowing exactly how much he drank. I have a card that says a 170 lb male must drink 15 standard drinks in one hour to get to a .33 or over the course of 5 hours to get to .25. I once had 8 beers and 5 jello shots in one night and was puking all next day; I don't think I could ever get to the point where I would even pass out. Now I understand they might not think anything was wrong with him, but it amazes how LITTLE people actually know about alcohol. I just don't see how you can pump someone full of alcohol to the point that they pass out. And not passed out as in "I'm wasted I'm gonna crash" passed out as in [i]passed out, uncoincious[i]. I honestly think there are people that believe you can't die from it. I've learned so much about it from my healthy lifestyles class I am in. | |||
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| There is definitely a difference between "passed out, crashing, sleeping it off" and "passed out unconcious needs medical attention". If these guys were too stupid and careless to try and determine the difference they shouldn't have been drinking in the first place. Either way they deserve to be punished. __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer. --Bruce Graham | |||
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| They should all be expelled from school and prosecuted. __________________ When people get the opportunity to talk about the real issues, it becomes clear how vacuous the present agenda is. I have never met anyone in Vermont who thinks it's a good idea to give tax breaks to billionaires and cut back on health care and education. Nobody.-U.S. Representative Bernie Sanders | |||
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| This makes me sick, honestly when you are writing on someone and they are too passed out to notice and/or wake up then someone should be watching over this person. It is irresponisble and I don't think their excuses are valid. Just my opinion. __________________ Gandolf-"So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." | |||
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| I'll give you an example. A couple of weeks ago I was at away and one of the nights I drank a 700mL bottle of vodka (soooo stupid) while playing drinking games. When the boys (I was in a men's side) decided to go out, they knew there was no way I'd be able to get in a club, so they walked me downstairs and put me to bed, where I promptly passed out on the bed. Should they have called an ambulance? I wouldn't have, I'd have just put them on their side and checked on them when we got home. That's not being stupid, its just sometimes young people can't tell when someone has drunk that much they're dying. All of us have what are called RSAs (Responsible Service of Alchaol) and know a drunk person when we see one. Just an honest question, but how many people here are over 21 (or your country's limit) or drinkers? __________________ Is this because I'm a lesbian? | |||
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| I am over 21 and I drink. There is a reasonable limit to where someone can be very drunk and another when they are in danger of dying. I am assuming that this frat had this guy drink to the point of endangering himself. __________________ When people get the opportunity to talk about the real issues, it becomes clear how vacuous the present agenda is. I have never met anyone in Vermont who thinks it's a good idea to give tax breaks to billionaires and cut back on health care and education. Nobody.-U.S. Representative Bernie Sanders | |||
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| Loyal Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 1999
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| I am over 21 and I don't drink but I don't have a problem with people drinking. I have tons of friends who enojy getting drunk and I have no problem hanging out with them while they are doing so. I just think it is irresponsible to require and/or request someone to drink as part of activity that you are planning and then not have the courtesy to keep an eye on them. Once again that is just my opinion. __________________ Gandolf-"So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." | |||
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| in newzeland its 18 years and im nearly 20. i drank when i was under the age limit but now i dont at all and i dont want to again. it sucks that the kid died and im sorry for his family but i think people need to take responsibilty for themselves too. | |||
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