welshgirlyUK

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The unrest is becoming dangerous now, and Britain is estimated to become the most overpopulated country in Europe soon. It is becoming a little bit crazy and something does need to be done about it, especially considering MPS say the country is gonna buckle under the pressure. However, immigration is vital and your not gonna stop the high levels of illegal immigration. It's a tough call and i dont think the EU will allow us to close the borders, especially not for 10 years.

SiriuslyPotter

So this guy is suggesting we pander to the BNP? hell why not elect them?!
People are going to vote for them regardless of what they say, luckily most of the population are rightfully wary of them so they are not going to get in a position of power any time soon.

Maybe_Tomorrow

I dont know, maybe i'm reading this wrong. I am tired LOL. But i think he's saying do it so the BNP dont get in. And because the country cant handle the pressure anymore. This open door policy is becoming more than a little rididuclous. And i say that as an immigrant of this country. In the last few years it feels like it's started to fall to it's knees. Something has got to give. I think 10 years might be a bit too much though.

And in regards to the BNP, i dont think there ever gonna be running the place, but the amount of seats there gaining is frightening. I dont have as much faith that population are too wary of them to start handing over councils to them. Immigration is clearly an issue, a big one, for the general population and no one but the BNP seems to be discussing it. Granted the BNP are ridic, but i think people just want the politicians to do something about it and since the BNP are the only ones saying they will.... well, i think we should be wary.

SiriuslyPotter

The BNP have 1 seat at the London Assembly, and a few council seats, so I don't think we have to worry about them anytime soon. We shouldn't even give them the publicity frankly.

But there are immigrants who work a lot harder towards the country than citizens, I don't see why they should be treated as inferior to be honest. All this will do is give government approved reasons to discriminate.

sunnykerr

I don't know... it's a tough problem, because the whole world knows that Great Britain is currently having issues with massive immigration. On the other hand, how exactly does one close one's borders like that?

I suppose being off the continent would give a certain geographical advantage... but the United States can't be the only country in the world with an illegal aliens problem. So presumably you can't really keep people out if they really want to come in.

And, if that's the case, then officially closing the borders becomes nothing more or less than a really bad PR job. It's got all the bad smell of a rotten egg without any benefits to make it worth it.

And that's assuming that there's any way to implement it that could even theoretically be worth it.

welshgirlyUK

I agree with that, there are a lot of immigrants who work harder and contribute more to the country than people whose families go back generations here. But what about the immigrants who come here just to drain on our already weakening system? I think they really need to work on tightening up immigration and implent a more stringent points system like Australia where we take only what we need.

sunnykerr

Not that I'm disagreeing, but that also raises a new question, doesn't it?

When does a society-contributing immigrant stop being an immigrant and becomes a citizen? And, if you're only taking just as much as you need, then how to you get to the part where you have society-contributing citizens who may have been born elsewhere?

SiriuslyPotter

Absolutely, I can see where you are coming from, these however are individuals not all immigrants, just like not all british citizens contribute to their own country.

And I'm just afraid this will turn out to be the government using immigrants as a scapegoat.

sunnykerr

Here's the thing, too. Even if the government never goes anywhere using immigrants as scapegoats, it won't stop the stigma of it from doing its thing. It created a moral gray zone.

There'll be increased scrutiny on the part of watchdog organizations supporting immigrant rights. Targetted immigrants will claim profiling.

And it's gonna be that much harder to say what's really going on. It's also gonna create a bad, bad precedent for other countries who aren't so open in their immigration policies.

Nevertheless, having said all of that, I still understand the need to address immigration in Britain. I just don't know that closing the borders is the right way to go about it.