News & Politics - Calif. Senate Passes Gay Marriage Bill

Temptress · 09-02-2005, 07:45 AM

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. - The state Senate approved legislation Thursday that would legalize same-sex marriage in California, a vote that makes the chamber the first legislative body in the country to approve a gay marriage bill.

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The 21-15 vote sets the stage for a showdown next week in the California Assembly, which narrowly rejected a gay marriage bill in June.

"Equality is equality, period," said one of the bill's supporters, Democratic Sen. Liz Figueroa. "When I leave this Legislature, I want to be able to tell my grandchildren I stood up for dignity and rights for all."

Massachusetts became the first state to recognize gay marriages when the state Supreme Court legalized same-sex weddings there in 2003. That prompted a number of states across the nation to pass constitutional amendments banning gay marriage. Other states offer civil unions, which provide many of the same legal benefits without the status of marriage.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's office had no comment Thursday on how the governor would respond if the bill reached his desk, spokeswoman Margita Thompson said.

"The governor believes that the people spoke when they passed Proposition 22, and now it went to the courts and that's where it should be," she said. "The governor will abide by what the courts rule."

Proposition 22, approved by California voters in 2000, barred the state from recognizing gay marriages performed elsewhere.

Thompson said Schwarzenegger does support domestic partnerships.

The bill's author, Democratic Assemblyman Mark Leno, said he expected a vote in the Assembly on Tuesday.

"We are so very close," he said.

Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth, a Republican, suggested a "higher power" was opposed to the legislation.

"This is not the right thing to do," he said. "We should protect traditional marriage and uphold all of those values and institutions that have made our society and keep our society together today."

But Democratic Sen. Debra Bowen said a number of churches supported the bill. "I don't think anyone should claim God as being on their side in this debate," she said.

California already confers many of the rights and duties of marriage on gay couples, who can register as domestic partners.

Sen. Tom McClintock, a Republican, agreed that gay couples should be entitled to certain rights but not the right to marry.

"Can't you see that marriage is a fundamentally different institution?" he said. "Marriage is the institution by which we propagate our species and inculcate our young."

Gay rights advocates called Thursday's vote historic.

"It will make all California families safer and more secure if it becomes law," said Seth Kilbourn, director of the Human Rights Campaign Marriage Project in New York.

The Senate vote came as a state appellate court is considering appeals of a San Francisco judge's March ruling overturning California laws banning recognition of gay marriages.

Opponents of same-sex marriage are now trying to qualify initiatives for the 2006 ballot that would place a ban on gay marriages in the state Constitution.

"The people can speak once and for all by elevating the definition of marriage to the state Constitution, said Andrew Pugno, legal adviser to one of the two groups trying to qualify such an amendment.

Propagate our species and inculcate our young?

Oooh big words. It's still the same thing though. Gay couples can't reproduce and they wouldn't make good parents.

And a "higher being?" please, keep your religion out of this.

LiteratiFan0624 · 09-02-2005, 08:15 AM

"Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

- the Bill of Rights

It seems to me that most, if not all opponents of gay marriage oppose it because of their religious beliefs. Congress doesn't have the right to ban gay marriage on religious grounds. Of course, our Constitutional rights have been compromised before, so who's to say that it won't happen again?

Americans have the right to the pursuit of happiness. By banning gay marriage, we are taking away that right from the gay population.

My main question is, what is so terrible about legalizing it? We're not letting criminals run loose. Who does it really harm? The Christian conservatives may not like it, but there are other people in this country besides them.

86amanda86 · 09-15-2005, 09:31 PM

The first ammendment is talking about peoples right to practice whatever religion they chose, It says nothing about "congress shall make no law resricting the terms of marriage in the united states."

Ms Carolyn · 09-18-2005, 08:52 AM

Marriage is a religious institution. It should have no standing in law no matter what your sexual orientation is.

Let the churches marry whom they want to. In order to have standing at law, people should all have to form domestic partnerships. This does not necessarily mean sexual or romantic pairings. Any two adults who decide that they wish to form a partnership to live together, share expenses and responsibilities, and to take care of each other and children, pets, etc, should be able to form a domestic partnership.

In other words, let's get the government out of our bedrooms once and for all! Civil unions for everyone!


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