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sick little jag

God I love what a big dumb idiot he is. This Bush-ism is the best one yet.

*Lauren

There's any doubt that he's stupid now?

Blame it on the speechwriters, but why the hell didn't he read it beforehand?

Or maybe it was a Freudian slip?

(Edited, cause I just had my own)

Cail

This American person doesn't feel that way 'cause I think saying the opposite of what you mean is not showing clarity or conviction. At all.

It would be nice if the blame could be put on the speechwriters, but honestly, does anyone remember speechwriters for past presidents messing up this badly and this much? Didn't think so.

sick little jag

Seriously, it could not possibly be his speach writer. It's all 100% Bush stupidity.

Cail, I know what you mean. Bush speaks with the clarity of a rock and the conviction of a some lame salesperson trying to sell you something useless.

Timeo

CNN is way too nice to Bush. This is what the Toronto Star ran today.

coconutlime

that's nothing. I watched him live at the Unity Conference for Journalists today and I thought I was watching SNL.
One funny item from CNN's Inside Politics yesterday, Peggy Noonan, former Reagan speechwriter, has joined the Bush reelection team as an unpaid volunteer. Poor Peggy, she really is delusional.

summerbug

Timeo - I love that opening paragraph from the Toronto Star

That isn't the fault of a speechwriter. This is pure operator error

What bothered me in seeing the clip was him smirking while he was delivering - before he even got to the error. I mean, I do not understand why he can't look serious when speaking about something serious without all the head bobbing and smirking.

n e r b l e

everyone that has never misspoken or said something stupid or used bad grammer on the board or in real life, step forward and decimate bush. everyone else is a big fat hypocrite.

meretwins

i'd find it hard to find anyone who would disagree with you about mispeaking on occasion but since none of us are in the position of leadership that the president of the united states it's not hypocritical...

it would be one thing if he occassionally mispoke or mispronounced words but he has been doing this even before he came into office...i find it rather trifling that when giving a public speech he wouldn't take the time to either learn how to correctly pronounce the word or ask those around him about sentences that may be questionable....

i've always gotten the impression that he will read whatever is put in front of him, for those of you who have see "anchorman: the lengend of ron burgandy" you'll know what i mean ....

in an office that is the highest political position in this nation he is, regardless if you agree or not, the reflection of this nation....being so i would like it if he would take the time to learn what he's saying before hand because he comes off as an ineffectual a$$ everytime he speaks.....

so yes we have a right to be critical of the president "adventurous speech" because public speaking is a very big part of what he does and he can barely communicate his messages across to people without sound like the village idiot...if everyone else (public figures be they politicians, activist etc.) takes the time and preperation to at least sound like they know what the hell they're talking about i don't see why bush is incapapable of doing the same...

ceilirose

Turn about is fair play. Bush/Cheney 04 have mocked Kerry for months with his ' I voted for it before I voted against it' line. I've seen it on this board too. *shrug*

If you're going to dish it out you have to learn how to take it.

There's nothing wrong with criticizing Bush for his bungling of words just as there's nothing wrong for criticizing Kerry for mispeaking. The problem is when one side can do it and the other can't without being called names for it.

n e r b l e

the kerry line that you mentioned was not a misquote from what i understand. it wasn't like bush's which was an accident, from what i understand that's supposed to be kerry's "nuance." if i'm wrong feel free to correct me.

and critizing someone for bad speech giving skills is one thing but i don't see how you can infer he's stupid. oh yes, he's the stupid president that managed to hornswaggle the nation into an unneeded war for oil and fill the pockets of haliburton all while keeping 1/2 of the nation still under the guise of it's honesty. yes, the crafty idiot.

ceilirose

I didn't say it was a misquote. Kerry said it but the ad conveniently doesn't show the explanation that Kerry gave for his vote which comes after that. The cherry-picked that line and ran it numerous times around the country and the perception of Kerry as a flip floper stuck.

Of course we never hear about the fact that Bush would have vetoed the same appropriations bill if it meant that tax cuts would have been rolled back. But then one could say that Bush didn't care about the troops and that he was a flip floper and that would never do.

Why can't people say he's stupid? I've heard Kerry referred to on this board as a moron..what's the difference? Why are the Bush supporters so sensitive to any criticism of him?

Timeo

I don't know about you, but I consider the ability to phrase thoughts into logical coherent sentences to be a measure of intelligence. But hey, while you're at it, you should check out a bunch of these websites.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm
http://www.bushisms.com/
http://slate.msn.com/id/76886
http://www.bushcartoon.com/bushisms.html
http://www.dubbia.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2
http://www.dubyaspeak.com/
http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_bushisms.html
http://www.truthaboutgeorge.com/bushisms/
http://www.dslextreame.com/users/mar...2/bushisms.htm
http://www.shrubbish.com/

summerbug

Nerble - We would all make fun of our friends and they would make fun of us for some of those "mis-speaks". It's not hypocritical but it is what it is - funny.

There is also the fact that we expect our public figures to be better speakers than we are or at least be better prepared. Besides, he was making a pretty serious statement so you would think, especially knowing that he has trouble getting things out properly on occasion, he would slow down and get it right.