Jacob1983

This thread cannot go away. We have to realize that people are too sensitive and try too hard to be politically correct at the expense of others. America has become too strong when it comes to trying to make everyone equal at the expense of others.
If you are called a name, it does not mean that the person necessarily hates your guts and wants to kill you. It also does not always mean that the person has a mental disorder and needs to go to bad word rehab. Bad word rehab is a term that I made up and I will continue to use it until celebs stop going to rehab when they say stupid things to people.
Name calling is wrong and it shouldn't happen but there shouldn't be a federal case about it.

Indian Summer

The bad word rehab thing makes no sense. Isaiah Washington didn't go to rehab because of what he said to TR Knight. He went to rehab for punching Patrick Dempsey and trying to strangle him. He has a past history of violence and aggression on the set, both of Grey's Anatomy and other projects.

I think sometimes political correctness is taken a step too far, but I think name calling is a poor example. There's no reason to use hurtful and offensive terms, especially those that have a painful and derogatory past (like the N word). It seems to me like most of the argument against being politically correct is just a way to justify acting mean to people.

rose parade

I think IW should have been fired.

Indian Summer

Ergh, I think that might be going a bit far. First of all, we don't know the details of what happened because we weren't there. Second of all, TR doesn't seem to feel threatened or whatever. If it's not in his contract that he can't use profanity on the set, I don't think they'd have legal grounds to fire him. The Patrick Dempsey thing is a little more serious, in all reality, since that deals with physical violence, but once again... we don't know the details. If the cast members don't want him fired, I don't see why we should.

rose parade

I just don't like his character, lol.

Indian Summer

Hah! Neither do I. But I don't know. I do think it would set a bad precedent if actors could be fired just because fans didn't like who they were as opposed to their acting skills. I think the perfect example's Chad Michael Murray: plenty of girls find him hot, but he's slime as a person. It doesn't mean he should lose his job, though.

rose parade

Well I think you have to take into consideration that IW did the choking and name calling when he was at work. Where there should be some professionalism. You don't choke your coworkers.

Indian Summer

Well, I agree with that. But once again, we don't know the details. We only know what we read in the tabloids, lol. We don't know if he was goaded, if there were extenuating circumstances, and if he was actually supposed to be working. (Filming schedules are screwy, so he may not have even been "on the clock," you know?).

Regardless, though, I think what it comes down to is that if his "victims" - TR and especially PD- aren't calling for him to be fired, there's no reason we should. I think it goes without saying they know more about him and what happened.

The only politically correct stuff that I can think of off the top of my head that gets a little overboard is the Native Americans/Indians, African Americans/blacks, etc. stuff. Most people I know from either race... don't really care, lol.

elisheva

Well, I think "Indians" is a little ridiculous and I try not to use it - but at the same time, my Latin American history teacher repeatedly uses it when referring to South or Central American indigenous peoples! And she is definitely someone who has close contact with them. So I can agree that often the kerfuffle over what the perfect word is can be a little overcomplicated (although at the same time I completely sympathize with the intentions behind it).

Indian Summer

Oh, yeah, I definitely get the intentions behind it and I agree Indians is kind of... odd, but I don't think it's meant to be insulting, and I don't think most people take it that way- I know my friends don't. In all reality, it's kind of funny in the sense of it's still a pretty prominent example of how... dumb we can be as a culture. You'd think it would've been phased out by now.

The one "color term" I object to aside from the obviously derogatory type like the N word is "colored," especially when referring to blacks. I hear it a lot from the older generations (60+ mostly), and I'm always like, "Wait, so they're violet and green? Cooool." I get weird looks but... yeah. I just don't like that word.

Jacob1983

The bad word rehab is just a joke. Do you understand what a joke is?
If Washington had never called Knight that bad word, the story wouldn't have been that big. Fighting with your co-stars isn't new. Shannon Doherty did it on Charmed and all the women on Sex in the City had their arguments.
I honestly don't think that Washington would have gone to rehab if he hadn't called TR that bad name.

Indian Summer

Apparently not, because I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.

...Isaiah Washington physically attacked an actor who the media has a lovefest with on the set of a hit show that's managed to get better ratings than CSI. That's why he's in rehab. Maybe it wouldn't have gotten the media attention it did if it were for his forcing TR out (which he really didn't, because TR didn't have to come out) but it doesn't change what he did or why he's being punished.

Of course Washington wouldn't have gone to rehab if he hadn't called TR that name. Then it wouldn't have blown into a huge thing, the media wouldn't have taken the story and run, and there wouldn't be angry minority groups calling into ABC. Obviously, part of it's damage control. Obviously, all involved parties would've rathered this whole thing stayed behind closed doors and away from the media, but that didn't happen.

Jacob1983

I honestly believe that the whole Grey's Anatomy incident was just a stunt that went horribly wrong.
People are treating Isaiah Washington as if he killed someone or raped a little kid. The man got angry at a co-worker and lost it. That happens to people all the time yet they don't have to deal with the scrutiny that Washington had to go through. I'm not saying that Washington was right. Please understand that. I'm not condoning what he did. However, I would say that many people have done what Washington did.

Americans are too wimpy and soft. We need to be tougher like we used to be.

I will keep on saying this until someone gets the point. Just because you are made fun of or teased does not mean you have to make a federal case about it.
I was picked on and teased throughout high school and I never once went to my principal and demanded that my bullies be expelled or suspended from school.

And another thing, just because someone calls you a name does not always mean they are being truthful about it. I'm sure that you posters have been called names many times from people you know who honestly didn't mean what they said to you.

TR Knight should have been more honest about his sexual orientation. If he would have done that, then he wouldn't have had to deal with coming out.
Lying about who you are is wrong and should not be tolerated like it is in our society. Gay people get put on a pedastool when they admit their lies and I don't think that's something that should be celebrated. That's one thing that has really damaged America. People aren't honest like they used to be.

I am not gay and I will never be gay because I don't like dudes. I can't imagine what it's like to be gay because I'm straight. I'm sorry if that sounds stupid or that it doesn't make sense.
If being gay if so natural and cool then why do so many lie about it and let people assume that they are straight. Be honest about it.

Indian Summer

Jacob, it's people like you who make people like TR Knight not want to come out. You judge him if he does, you judge him if he doesn't. If he'd come out before this, you'd be whining that he was doing it to get media attention (and don't even try to deny it; you've been saying that with Amaechi the last couple weeks). He wasn't lying about anything. He didn't have a wife or kids or a girlfriend. He didn't pretend to be straight.

How did you introduce yourself to the last person you met? Did you say, "Hi, I'm Jacob and I'm straight?" Somehow I doubt that. By your standards, that makes you a liar.

I love that you're now blaming gays for letting people "assume" they're straight. Do you even understand how backwards that is in the first place? Why would you "assume" anything about someone, let alone their sexual preference? It's not like this came out because some woman hit on TR in a bar and he led her on. There was no lying here, and if there was an assumption, it was on your part. I, for one, never assumed TR was straight. Quite frankly, his sexual preferences never came to my mind.

rose parade

Listen Jacob, TR knight WAS out. He was out to his family and friends. The media didn't know because it's none of their damn buisness. He never lied about his sexuality. Was he supposed to have a freaking press conference?!

P.S.
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