News & Politics - Al-Jazeera Says Will Play Bin Laden Tape

capesidefan · 10-29-2004, 06:58 PM

foxnews, just had a clip from it, it showed him in video..........

Al-Jazeera Says Will Play Bin Laden Tape

29 minutes ago Top Stories - AP

CAIRO, Egypt - The Arab television station Al-Jazeera said Friday it would broadcast a tape from al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) on an evening newscast.

Al-Jazeera said the tape deals with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States and their consequences. While the announcer said the message was an audiotape, the station's Web site called it a video.

The Qatari-based channel did not say how it had received the tape nor how it had concluded that it was authentic.

The channel has previously received audio- and videotapes from people linked to al-Qaida.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...bin_laden_tape

mh67511 · 10-29-2004, 08:58 PM

Hmm...that would be kind of interesting to see actually. I mean to see what he says and how he phrases it.

*Ledi* · 10-29-2004, 09:24 PM

For once, I agree with Bin Laden:

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Bin Laden suggested Bush was slow to react to the Sept. 11 attacks, giving the hijackers more time than they expected. At the time of the attacks, the president was listening to schoolchildren in Florida reading a book.

"It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face these horrors alone," he said, referring to the number of people who worked at the World Trade Center.

"It appeared to him (Bush) that a little girl's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. That gave us three times the required time to carry out the operations, thank God," he said.

In planning the attacks, bin Laden said he told Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers, that the strikes had to be carried out "within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration noticed."

Your "President" is a MORON, America. Wake up and realize that before it's too late for God's sake.

WalkingOnSunshine · 10-29-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by *Ledi*
For once, I agree with Bin Laden:

Your "President" is a MORON, America. Wake up and realize that before it's too late for God's sake.

Wow.

mh67511 · 10-29-2004, 09:52 PM

How could Bin Laden have known that Bush was sitting in the classroom? This is all being said in hindsight. What could have been done? Could they have scrambled to get some fighter jets in the air and shot down the planes? That would not have gone over well. Those people would have died whether Bush had ran out of that classroom or stayed.

*Ledi* · 10-29-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by WalkingOnSunshine
Wow.

Wow what? Wow I agreed with Bin Laden?! Holy crap.. I'm a terrorist.

He is right, your president is a moron, and he WAS slow about the whole thing. Which is something else I don't understand about your beloved president: he freakin sat on his ass on Sept. 11th, for like what? 7 minutes? And now during his whole campaign he brings up Sept. 11th as if he was some sort of hero. WTF?

And BTW, just so you know, Bush is no better than Bin Laden in my eyes. Both are terrorists who kill innocent people.

*Ledi* · 10-29-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by mh67511
How could Bin Laden have known that Bush was sitting in the classroom? This is all being said in hindsight. What could have been done? Could they have scrambled to get some fighter jets in the air and shot down the planes? That would not have gone over well. Those people would have died whether Bush had ran out of that classroom or stayed.

That is not the point. It doesn't matter whether or not Bush could've saved any lives. Point is, he sat there when he shouldn't have. Simple as that.

And how could Bin Laden know? Is that a serious question?

mh67511 · 10-29-2004, 10:24 PM

See people can say "he shouldn't have just sat there" all they want, but nobody ever seems to know what specifically he should have been doing. All they know is that "he shouldn't have just sat there." Well if you're the genius, tell me what he should have done. 7 minutes would not have changed what happened, so to me it really doesn't matter.

And yeah that was a serious question. Did YOU know that Bush stayed in the classroom for 5-7 minutes after his advisor whispered in his year on September 11th? Did Bin Laden have some camera in the classroom? I didn't even see the video of that until YEARS after September 11th. It is very easy for Bin Laden to say this AFTER September 11th and AFTER he's seen Farenheit 9/11. The fact is nobody except the people in that classroom and his advisors knew that he stayed in the classroom until AFTER the fact. I didn't find out (not that it mattered to me anyways) until earlier this summer.

JW77 · 10-29-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by *Ledi*
And BTW, just so you know, Bush is no better than Bin Laden in my eyes. Both are terrorists who kill innocent people.

Hmm...weren't you praising Bill Clinton a while back? Didn't he kill innocent people, too.

Oh, and what about John Kerry? You want him to win, right? Isn't he a war criminal?

WalkingOnSunshine · 10-29-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by *Ledi*
Wow what? Wow I agreed with Bin Laden?! Holy crap.. I'm a terrorist.

He is right, your president is a moron, and he WAS slow about the whole thing. Which is something else I don't understand about your beloved president: he freakin sat on his ass on Sept. 11th, for like what? 7 minutes? And now during his whole campaign he brings up Sept. 11th as if he was some sort of hero. WTF?

Well honesty, I cannot believe that anyone would openly admit to agreeing with Bin Laden. Yes, it is your right I know to say whatever you want, but it is my right to feel the way I do.

Because Bush should have jumped up and into action as soon as he heard? Please.

Yes, Bush can bring up September 11th because he emerged as a leader for America during those days. 9/11 happened and this tape is just a reminder of why this war on terror is neccessary.

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And BTW, just so you know, Bush is no better than Bin Laden in my eyes. Both are terrorists who kill innocent people.

I cannot even comment on that because it is absurd. Absurd to suggest that any American President is killing innocent civilians. Bin Laden is a terrorist pure and simple. I think your comparison of this current President and Bin Laden is just simply outrageous.

It just bothers me, but then again Americans don't know what is right for ourselves, I forgot.

ETA - Then if you believe Bush is a terrorist for killing innocent people then I guess Kerry is too under this logic. Since he voted to go to war or give authorization for it - damn all leaders must be terrorists then.

ceilirose · 10-29-2004, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by mh67511
See people can say "he shouldn't have just sat there" all they want, but nobody ever seems to know what specifically he should have been doing. All they know is that "he shouldn't have just sat there." Well if you're the genius, tell me what he should have done. 7 minutes would not have changed what happened, so to me it really doesn't matter.

And yeah that was a serious question. Did YOU know that Bush stayed in the classroom for 5-7 minutes after his advisor whispered in his year on September 11th? Did Bin Laden have some camera in the classroom? I didn't even see the video of that until YEARS after September 11th. It is very easy for Bin Laden to say this AFTER September 11th and AFTER he's seen Farenheit 9/11. The fact is nobody except the people in that classroom and his advisors knew that he stayed in the classroom until AFTER the fact. I didn't find out (not that it mattered to me anyways) until earlier this summer.

You mean if you were President you wouldn't have been on the phone with the Pentagon, Defense Secretary etc., asking what the hell was going on and how do we stop it? After the second plane hit the tower didn't it dawn on everybody that it wasn't just some awful accident?

Maybe something could have been done..we'll never know. Bush just sat there. The reports are that Cheney was ordering planes to be shot down back in the WH.

Anyway..OBL should never have been in the position to make this video. He should have been behind bars or six feet under..but the Administration focused elsewhere.

*Ledi* · 10-29-2004, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by WalkingOnSunshine
Well honesty, I cannot believe that anyone would openly admit to agreeing with Bin Laden. Yes, it is your right I know to say whatever you want, but it is my right to feel the way I do.

Because Bush should have jumped up and into action as soon as he heard? Please.

Well honestly, I cannot believe that anyone would openly admit to agreeing with Bush.

If I'm a terrorist for agreeing with Bin Laden on something that he is right about, then I guess all Bush supporters are idiots too because I think Bush is an idiot. So only an idiot can follow another.

And besides, it's not like I agreed with Bin Laden on something bad, so I don't know why you're making such a big deal out of it. Oh wait, you're a Republican, and you support Bush. Figures. I actually KNEW one of you was going to jump on my throat for that. And not because you're right, no, but because you people like to make a big deal out of things that aren't as important. Probably so that you won't have to talk about the real issues.

And yes, he should have. That's why he is President.

*Ledi* · 10-29-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by JW77
Hmm...weren't you praising Bill Clinton a while back? Didn't he kill innocent people, too.

Oh, and what about John Kerry? You want him to win, right? Isn't he a war criminal?

No, Bill Clinton wasn't killing innocent people. Please don't compare those two Presidents because Bush can only wish to be as good of a President as Clinton was.

JW77 · 10-29-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by *Ledi*
No, Bill Clinton wasn't killing innocent people.

Are you saying that Clinton didn't kill innocent people in Iraq? Didn't he support the sanctions? And what about all the bombings that he ordered?

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Please don't compare those two Presidents because Bush can only wish to be as good of a President as Clinton was.

In your opinion.

mh67511 · 10-29-2004, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by ceilirose
You mean if you were President you wouldn't have been on the phone with the Pentagon, Defense Secretary etc., asking what the hell was going on and how do we stop it? After the second plane hit the tower didn't it dawn on everybody that it wasn't just some awful accident?

Maybe something could have been done..we'll never know. Bush just sat there. The reports are that Cheney was ordering planes to be shot down back in the WH.

I can't say what I would do. I've never been in that kind of a situation and neither has any American preisdent in our history. Frankily I think jumping up and immediately going nuts without first taking a breath and getting a grip on the situation is the worst thing to do in any situation. It's not as if anyone could have told him precisely what was going on! It took months to sort everything out. Nobody really knew what going on right away!

So WHAT if he sat there for 5-7 minutes! Why is that such a damn big deal. I STILL haven't heard one tangible thing that could have been done in that period that would have made any difference. All it is is a bunch of speculation and "what if" and I hate playing what if. Yes he could have rushed out of the classrom and got right on the phone. But odds are the people on the other end were just as confused as he was! This was totally unprecedented.

Anyways actions WAS taken. The NYC airports were shut down soon after the attacks and 55 minutes after the first plane crashed into the WTC, ALL AIRPORTS were shut down and every single plane was grounded! I believe there were over 1,000 planes in the air at the time. If you don't consider that doing something, then I don't know what you think constitutes doing something! They knew the attacks were by plane so that was the smartest thing to do and that was the first major thing they did - make sure that if more attacks WERE planned they couldn't not be carried out.

And you said "asking what the hell was going on and how do we stop it? " You can't stop an attack that has already occured, but you do things from preventing it to continue (like grounding all planes).

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Originally posted by *Ledi*
And besides, it's not like I agreed with Bin Laden on something bad, so I don't know why you're making such a big deal out of it. Oh wait, you're a Republican, and you support Bush. Figures. I actually KNEW one of you was going to jump on my throat for that. And not because you're right, no, but because you people like to make a big deal out of things that aren't as important. Probably so that you won't have to talk about the real issues.

Making a big deal out of things that aren't imporant? Hah.

You just said it yourself, "you support Bush." How the hell do you think someone who supports Bush is going to respond when you tell us that he is a moron and we need to wake up? I thought after your barrage of posts about how horrible Bush is, how you can't believe how anyone could vote for him, etc. you'd know by now how people will respond to them.

Anyways for the record I AM awake. I'm WIDE awake. My alarm clock works just fine


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