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Old 07-17-2004, 07:42 PM
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14 year old boy charged with murder

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 Posted: 11:59 AM EDT (1559 GMT)

DECATUR, Alabama (AP) -- A 14-year-old boy has been charged with murder in the death of a 10-year-old who suffocated in a hot clothes dryer.

The teenager, whose name was not released because of his age, was arrested Thursday in the July 4 death of Clinton Allen Weeks, one of four boys who were unsupervised at Weeks' home in northern Alabama.

Proceedings will be held later to determine if the boy should be tried as an adult.

"The 14-year-old admitted to turning the dryer on, and we have enough information to charge him with murder," said sheriff Greg Bartlett.

When medical help was called July 4, the caller made a reference to a game of hide-and-seek, but the sheriff said he does not know if Weeks got into the dryer as part of a game. He declined to say if the suspect had admitted to holding the door closed.

The sheriff said the dryer temperature soared past 200 degrees in 90 seconds with the 5-foot-4-inch, 70-pound boy trapped inside
This is just too much. I mean really, why would possess someone to do that?

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Old 07-17-2004, 08:32 PM
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Wow...5'4 and only 70 pounds, now THAT's scary too...

What an awful thing to happen, though, I don't understand how someone can do something like that to another human being. I mean, I know people will say "he's only 14...blah blah blah..." but I think at 14 you should know not to put someone into a dryer. I'd like to think it was some kind of accident, but leaving a dryer on for 90 seconds with someone in it is not an accident.
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Old 07-17-2004, 10:44 PM
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Definetly. At 14, which wasn't too long ago for me, I had more sense than to do something like that. That is definetly old enough to know exactly what you are doing.

That's so sad though.
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Old 07-19-2004, 02:24 PM
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That poor boy, what an awful way to die.

I agree, fourteen years old is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, especially in a situation like this. I wonder where the parents of the children were when this happened?

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Old 07-19-2004, 03:10 PM
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The question isn't whether or not you know the difference between right and wrong at 14, the question is whether or not you're an adult at 14. To me, you're not. You can't vote at 14. You can't sign a legally binding contract at 14. You can't buy a pack of cigaretts at 14. Under all other facets of the law, you're not an adult at 14. Just because he committed a horrible crime doesn't mean he's an adult, and so, he shouldn't be tried as one.
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Old 07-19-2004, 05:25 PM
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I gotta say though...not everybody knows that turning on a dryer with someone inside of it is dangerous - it seems like common sense but honestly not everyone has it.

The boy really may have thought that the boy could just get out - or he may not of known how hot it actually gets inside. If he turned it on and ran - thinking the boy inside would get out.

BUT if he did hold the door closed - he has to pay for his actions - although I don't think he should be charged as an adult.

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Old 07-19-2004, 05:56 PM
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That's really horrible.
I don't think he should be tried as an adult though because he's not one.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:12 AM
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Wow...5'4 and only 70 pounds, now THAT's scary too...

What an awful thing to happen, though, I don't understand how someone can do something like that to another human being. I mean, I know people will say "he's only 14...blah blah blah..." but I think at 14 you should know not to put someone into a dryer. I'd like to think it was some kind of accident, but leaving a dryer on for 90 seconds with someone in it is not an accident.
I agree.

I say try him as an adult. If you wait all it does is give the kid more time to try evil things and get away with them. Really, that's all it does. He should go to jail and have a psychologist come in and talk to him on a weekly or daily basis. He should not just end up in some juvenile detention center or in a mental hospital either. I say keep him in jail and have the psych doctor talk to him about his actions and right vs. wrong.

This stuff depresses me. Where was the mother?
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Old 07-21-2004, 02:39 PM
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You cannot send a psychologically instable 14-year-old kid to jail. That's like sending him to how-to-be-a-criminal/serial-killer-University.

Obviously something is very wrong with this boy and he needs to get professional, long-term help. Of course, it's possible he didn't realise that being locked inside a dryer while it's on is fatal (some people really can't put two and two together), but I'm sure being tried for murder is enough to make him aware of what it is he's done.

Sending him to jail is going to do serious damage to him, I think. Even if he gets to talk to a psychologist weekly or whatever, he's still going to be in an environment where people get what they want through violence and manipulation, and he's going to be at the bottom of the social ladder--that's enough to make anyone bitter towards society. I don't think it's such a good idea to make someone who is already callous enough to lock a child into a dryer and turn it on serve time in a jail. That's like asking him to go even more nuts.

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Old 08-12-2004, 10:26 PM
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Yeah I mentioned the mother because I thought they mentioned her in the article, guess not.

But my point was - why wasn't someone watching them, mother or father?
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Old 08-12-2004, 11:07 PM
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wtf?!
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Old 08-13-2004, 02:18 AM
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Once, we were trying to make a movie for Americas Funniest Home Videos so we put our little sister in the dryer. And she was going to jump out when I opened it. Anyways, I turned it on for a second but I was like 10. I turned it right off but I would never thought it got THAT hot in there. I would be more concerned about her spinning around and puking...
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Old 08-13-2004, 06:27 AM
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Oh my gosh, that is just awful. I am wondering what the kid could have been thinking. I mean I suppose it is obvious that he wasn't but still.

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When medical help was called July 4, the caller made a reference to a game of hide-and-seek, but the sheriff said he does not know if Weeks got into the dryer as part of a game. He declined to say if the suspect had admitted to holding the door closed.
I believe if the kid did end up admitting to holding the door closed then he should be tried as an adult.

The whole thing is just so sad.
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Old 08-14-2004, 06:48 AM
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have any of you ever met a 14 year old boy?
i mean all of the ones i have met certainly weren't mature enough to be tried as an adult.
unless he held the door shut i dont really think being incarcerated anywhere would be a proper punishment. he could've just been messing with the kid thinking wouldn't it be funny if so and so puked.
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Old 08-15-2004, 01:17 PM
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That's scary.
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