Buffy and Angel - Spike/James Marsters App. #106: 'The iconic Spike, black leather duster, Billy Idol curls and cheekbones to die for' - Page 7

Jaime Bee · 12-18-2017, 03:01 AM

Is this real?

straws · 12-18-2017, 10:59 AM

Where's my mug of tea?

This convo was interesting.

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dreamsofghostsandstars

I really wish that Joss Whedon and James Marsters had worked together some after Angel ended. In fact, given how good Marsters was at balancing Whedon’s trademark mixture of comedy and drama, I find it surprising that they haven’t. Whedon knows Marsters’s strengths: On one of the Firefly commentaries, he mentions Marsters as possibly the only other actor he’d worked with who was as good as Nathan Fillion at “turn[ing] on a dime.” Guess what happens to also be Whedon’s best writing move? I’m aware that they had serious creative differences in S2 of BtVS (Marsters has described Joss “getting up in my face” over how sympathetically he played Spike), but the facts that a) Whedon later brought Marsters on as a series regular and b) Marsters praises Whedon’s genius pretty much every chance he gets suggest that they got over it. That leaves one obvious explanation for why they haven’t worked together again: The universe hates me on a deep and personal level.
spikesjojo

They had a huge falling out when Joss referred to Marsters as an ingenue on the DVD set and in an interview.

https://jamesdb.com/index.php.

Marsters - He called me an ingenue the other day in US Weekly. "Spike was the best ingenue Angel ever had.“ In 15% of the bars, that’ll get you killed. I’ve seen what happens when you call a man a pretty, little girl. All joking aside, I wanted to go and find him and show him what kind of ingenue I really was. But I got over it and I realized that’s the downside of working with Joss. There’s a lot of upsides, but that one is a frustration. He does like to humiliate people.

Joss - When I called James "the best ingenue Angel ever had” I merely meant that there was enormous acting chemistry between them. After throwing different actresses up against David (sometimes literally) it was gratifying to find someone who brought out passion in David’s performance that I’d never seen. I mean, look at Caveman vs Astronauts, for god’s sake! David is off the charts hilarious. I learned early on to film those two in one-ers instead of regular coverage because their energy just kept increasing. Others have misinterpreted that quote before.

From what I gather they make nice, but I know Marsters was pretty pissed for at least a year. He had a right to his anger. Whedon knows that ingenue is pretty much code for a pretty girl with very limited talent. To have a director you have worked with for years call you that is a direct insult - even though Joss tried to wiggle out of that.

spikesjojo.tumblr.com/post/168666879448/dreamsofghostsandstars-i-really-wish-that-joss

**starryeyesxx** · 12-22-2017, 12:28 PM

Oh wow, I didn't know about all of that

straws · 12-22-2017, 02:06 PM

There is no ethical Batman under late capitalism.

**BlackWhiteRose** · 12-26-2017, 10:56 AM

"Spike doesn`t care what happens"

-Alicia- · 12-27-2017, 01:11 PM

“Untag and crop me out of this right now!”

**BlackWhiteRose** · 12-28-2017, 06:39 AM

So funny

**starryeyesxx** · 12-31-2017, 10:42 AM

That does sound like what Spike would do

Spike - “Bloody Hell”

Buffy Screencaps!

royalღcaliber · 12-31-2017, 12:12 PM

I love that gifset!!

**BlackWhiteRose** · 01-01-2018, 05:55 AM

Love the gif with the arrows

-Alicia- · 01-02-2018, 01:10 PM

I can also see social media Spike checking in at his crypt and tagging Buffy (S6 Buffy she probably wouldn’t care now) and Buffy being like “Are you completely insane?! Untag me now!”

Or Buffy getting on Facebook from Spike’s crypt and responding with “you wish” and then checking in some other place far away

**BlackWhiteRose** · 01-03-2018, 09:06 AM

Haha "Untag me now!" good one

-Alicia- · 01-03-2018, 09:25 AM

So weird thinking about how this show was really before social media took off

**BlackWhiteRose** · 01-05-2018, 06:37 AM

Oh god how did we live before twitter?

-Alicia- · 01-05-2018, 10:36 AM

I wish I could say I remember but I’ve been on twitter so long now....

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