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Old 10-20-2020, 11:09 AM
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Love your icon, fractured moonlight. Cordy's cat costume was iconic.

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I really do wish Connor had gotten to grow up with them. Those scenes were absolutely adorable.
Saaaame. I can understand them not wanting to have a baby on set all the time (bet it was expensive too) but I def wanted more adorable family scenes. And if they did age him up, I wish it had been done a different way than the Holtz storyline and awful writing for adult Connor.
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Ugh.
We had a citywide internet outage all day today (Wed Oct 21) for some server update and it just came back on about half an hour ago.

Although I'm usually hardcore with quoting, all those amazing caps--I can't do it.

Angel: "I'd call me, wouldn't you?"
Cordy's face: Hell yeah I would!

Since our 'Provider' watch party, my favorite line in the episode is: "I shouldn't have left you and the baby alone like that."
Anyone who caught that moment with no knowledge of the rest of the franchise would have assumed Cordy was Connor's mother.

She was such a natural with Connor that I've wondered if perhaps she did some babysitting on the side while she worked at the dress shop in BtVS s3 for extra money.

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I really do wish Connor had gotten to grow up with them. Those scenes were absolutely adorable.
Besides the issues Straws mentioned with using an infant onset, it couldn't have lasted plotwise. Connor would have become distracting and pointless but I concur that I'd have loved if the CA parenthood had been drawn out a bit more. It was just too precious.
I also have a guilty pleasure for fanfics that have the Scoobies react to CA as parents.
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Old 10-22-2020, 03:25 PM
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Ugh.
We had a citywide internet outage all day today (Wed Oct 21) for some server update and it just came back on about half an hour ago.
I hate it when we lose our internet. It's gotten to the point where I don't know how to survive without out lol.

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Cordy's face: Hell yeah I would!
Cordy's like, dork, I've often tried to call you but you're terrible at using your cellphone. Boy, I really do fall for dumb ones.

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Since our 'Provider' watch party, my favorite line in the episode is: "I shouldn't have left you and the baby alone like that."
Anyone who caught that moment with no knowledge of the rest of the franchise would have assumed Cordy was Connor's mother.
That was mine too. It has to be one of the most 'big husband energy' things Angel has ever said.

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She was such a natural with Connor that I've wondered if perhaps she did some babysitting on the side while she worked at the dress shop in BtVS s3 for extra money.
That sounds like an amusing mini offscreen adventure. Sunnydale Cordy learning to take care of young kids

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I also have a guilty pleasure for fanfics that have the Scoobies react to CA as parents.
Also guilty of that. Has to be one of my fave tropes.

Do you have any fics like that you can recommend off the top of your head? There's one I really like with A & C getting into a food fight and The Scoobies walking in on them, but I can't remember the author right now.
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:25 AM
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:10 AM
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I hate it when we lose our internet. It's gotten to the point where I don't know how to survive without out lol.
Same and it's a bit scary.

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That was mine too. It has to be one of the most 'big husband energy' things Angel has ever said.

It is and for me, another one that has stuck with me despite that I've never re-watched post-WITW season 3 and never will was when Connor was kidnapped. Fred had suggested that Angel call Cordy on her stupid vacation and Angel refuses, snapping at her something to the effect of:

"Cordy will be back soon, with gifts for Connor and he's going to be here so she can give them to him!"

(I'd look it up because I prefer accurate quoting to paraphrasing but don't recall the exact episode.)

That came across as a very spousal thing to say, as though he wanted to protect a mother from the pain of losing her child.

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That sounds like an amusing mini offscreen adventure. Sunnydale Cordy learning to take care of young kids
I can picture teenage Cordy burning food, getting grossed out having to clean up spills or PTB forbid having to change a diaper and at the end of the night having to bribe the kids to sit quietly or go to bed.
I hate to find it amusing because it's very Xander but yeah, I do.

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Also guilty of that. Has to be one of my fave tropes.

Do you have any fics like that you can recommend off the top of your head? There's one I really like with A & C getting into a food fight and The Scoobies walking in on them, but I can't remember the author right now.
Of the Scoobies and Connor trope specifically?

There's the one I mentioned on Discord:
Seperate Hearts by Becjane.
Angel has Cordelia and Connor go into hiding from W&H at the Summers' home under the protection of the Scoobies.
It's extremely well written and while angsty, CA/Baby!Connor is ultimately fluffy and sweet.
As I mentioned on Discord, her Buffy reaction to Connor is spot on with Buffy's line in 'Halloween' about preferring vampires to taking kids trick-or-treating.

I believe Wavelengths by Lysa might be considerable although CA's parenthood isn't so much at the forefront.
It's a fusion of sorts of Connor's kidnapping and the BtVS episode 'Gone' in which Cordelia and Connor are both kidnapped and Angel finds he must enlist the Scoobies' help to find them.
Even if it doesn't quite fit this particular trope it's still an excellent fic.

The last one I have on hand (because I'm grabbing from my rec list) is Prophecy Boy by wereleapard58.
The writing isn't great. It's a time travel fic with a rather badly inconsistent BtVS timeline but the overall plot is well-conceived and the tropes were portrayed well.
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Thank you so much and I agree. I wish we had gotten to see more Halloween costumes with her.

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Hi, Heather. You can call me Carmen.

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That came across as a very spousal thing to say, as though he wanted to protect a mother from the pain of losing her child.
Ouch. But, yeah, it does sound like that.

Thanks for the recs. Am currently reading Seperate Hearts by Becjane.

Some Halloween caps in honor of Halloween. (Can't believe October is over already...)


Cordelia: I know. Is the Bronze so not happening? Or what?





Buffy: I was late due to unscheduled slayage. Showed up looking trashed.
Willow: Was he mad?
Buffy: Actually he was pretty unmad. Which probably had something to do with the fact that Cordelia was drooling in his cappuccino.

I'd say Angel was definitely looking very unmad.



The way she's looking at him is #relatable.
I wonder how long he stayed at The Bronze after Buffy bailed on their date. Did he stay for that cappuccino?



The way he's looking at her here is cracking me up. He has no idea what to make of her lack of tact.

Angel: They were just incredibly dull. Simpering morons, the lot of them. I always wished I could meet someone... exciting. Interesting.

Also...Angel in Offspring.

Angel: "You know, I've been around a long time..."
Cordy: "Which reminds me. Next birthday, you think we could skip the two-hundred and fifty odd candles on the cake and the inevitable fire marshal and just go and just go with a little song?"
Angel: "And I've never known anyone like you."
Cordy: "Well, duh!"

Looks like he got his wish.


Cordy and Angel working together to help the (helpless) Buffy. They had no idea how soon working together for them would be second nature.



Xander: (shakes his head). Give it up, Cordy. You're never gonna get between those two.

And thus begins why Cordy was so oblivious/in denial of her feelings and Angel's in ATS S3.
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You both may call me Anne.


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Thanks for the recs. Am currently reading Seperate Hearts by Becjane.
I've seriously read all the best parts of that thing at least 4 times. Hehe.

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Some Halloween caps in honor of Halloween. (Can't believe October is over already...)


Cordelia: I know. Is the Bronze so not happening? Or what?
Admittedly he did look kind of ' Ugh, stake me' at the very beginning.

Which reminds me of much the same expression on his face while he watched Cordy's performance as Nora in 'A Doll's House' in 'Eternity' (I can't imagine her stooping so low but I also can't imagine how she got that role without sleeping with someone).



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Buffy: I was late due to unscheduled slayage. Showed up looking trashed.
Willow: Was he mad?
Buffy: Actually he was pretty unmad. Which probably had something to do with the fact that Cordelia was drooling in his cappuccino.

I'd say Angel was definitely looking very unmad.
Despite my admittedly bad memory of BtVS, I'm quite certain that this was the most comfortable he'd ever been with another person in that series including Buffy.
DB might have gone off-script because he couldn't manage to look "uncomfortable and disgusted" but I actually think the "unmad" reaction fit better. Cordy treated him like a person rather than like a parolee even if it was out of ignorance and talked to him about cars, how could he not be interested?! Additionally, we got Jealous!Buffy which was awesome. Sorry, that sounds kind of evil but it was.

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The way she's looking at him is #relatable.
I wonder how long he stayed at The Bronze after Buffy bailed on their date. Did he stay for that cappuccino?
A lot of folks, including CAers argue that in BtVS Cordy was only interested in Angel as a trump card over Buffy which I agree is true but I feel there was real interest there as well and the way she looks at him here, with this super cute genuinely smitten expression supports that.
I mean just look at the guy!

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The way he's looking at her here is cracking me up. He has no idea what to make of her lack of tact.
He's like: "Is this girl for real?" and I think inside, he's totally loving it.

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Angel: They were just incredibly dull. Simpering morons, the lot of them. I always wished I could meet someone... exciting. Interesting.

Also...Angel in Offspring.

Angel: "You know, I've been around a long time..."
Cordy: "Which reminds me. Next birthday, you think we could skip the two-hundred and fifty odd candles on the cake and the inevitable fire marshal and just go and just go with a little song?"
Angel: "And I've never known anyone like you."
Cordy: "Well, duh!"

Looks like he got his wish.
Wow. I did not recall the context of that line, that she wanted to celebrate Angel's birthday. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Angel doesn't remember his birthday. 200 years of it not mattering would do that.

Reminds me of a fic I read in which Cordy throws Angel a huge birthday party and even invites the Scoobies but of course danger is just around the corner.

Seeing and Believing by LadyJubilee.

The plot is really well done and has a unique and well-developed villain.

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Cordy and Angel working together to help the (helpless) Buffy. They had no idea how soon working together for them would be second nature.
I feel there has to be some form of unintended foreshadow or symbolism in the fact that CA are the only ones not affected by Ethan's spell because Angel doesn't do Halloween and Cordy just happened to be the one person to not purchase a costume from Ethan.

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Xander: (shakes his head). Give it up, Cordy. You're never gonna get between those two.

And thus begins why Cordy was so oblivious/in denial of her feelings and Angel's in ATS S3.
Ugh. I concur, I blame Xander for a lot of her insecurity in her relationship with Angel, and for her fear of Karma because the ass just had to constantly throw cracks at her about it.

ex. SAR:

Cordy: "Why do terrible things keep happening to me"
Xander: *fake cough*Karma*fake Cough*

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Old 11-03-2020, 05:17 PM
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I've seriously read all the best parts of that thing at least 4 times. Hehe.
Yeah, it's a seriously cute fic.

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Admittedly he did look kind of ' Ugh, stake me' at the very beginning.
True, but I think Angel would've looked like that no matter who tried to sit with him due to his antisocial tendencies lol. But I don't think he would've smiled like that and loosened up for just anyone. Her power.

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Which reminds me of much the same expression on his face while he watched Cordy's performance as Nora in 'A Doll's House' in 'Eternity' (I can't imagine her stooping so low but I also can't imagine how she got that role without sleeping with someone).
Haha. I love how tortured Wes and Angel look while watching that.

I don't think she slept with anyone for the role, but the casting director/someone important in the play must've had a huge crush on her and been willing to overlook her, uh, lack of suitability for the part.

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Cordy treated him like a person rather than like a parolee even if it was out of ignorance and talked to him about cars, how could he not be interested?! Additionally, we got Jealous!Buffy which was awesome. Sorry, that sounds kind of evil but it was.
I get a kick out of Buffy being jealous of CA, too, and I love her with my whole heart so oops lol.

Buffy wouldn't have been jealous if she didn't sense something there between CA. Or at least, that's what I'm going to believe.

There's just so much unintentional foreshadowing in the ep, Buffy's jealousy included.

Also Willow's "Angel will never fall for her act". Cut to S3 when Angel has, in fact, 'fallen for her act'. Buffy was right to worry.

Re: Cordy treating him like a person. It's probably because I read too much fic, but I like to believe he was a little disappointed when he realized she hadn't known he was a vampire and backed off once she truly found out.

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A lot of folks, including CAers argue that in BtVS Cordy was only interested in Angel as a trump card over Buffy which I agree is true but I feel there was real interest there as well and the way she looks at him here, with this super cute genuinely smitten expression supports that.
Hmm. I wouldn't say she was only interested in him to get one over on Buffy. Cordy shows immediate attraction to him upon first seeing him and that is before she knows about his connection to Buffy at all.

It's highly possible her continued pursuit was partially due to her and Buffy's rivalry, but I also think she genuinely thought he was a hottie and wanted some Angel smoochies lol.

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The plot is really well done and has a unique and well-developed villain.
I don't think I've read this one before. Thanks for the rec. I know what I'm gonna be reading later.
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I feel there has to be some form of unintended foreshadow or symbolism in the fact that CA are the only ones not affected by Ethan's spell because Angel doesn't do Halloween and Cordy just happened to be the one person to not purchase a costume from Ethan.
Oh, I love that. There is a certain symbolism there about only the two characters destined to go off and be leads on their own show not being affected. A power duo from the beginning haha.

Lorne's "It's fate. It's the stars" comes to mind.

I love waxing poetic about these two in here. No other ship makes me gush this much haha.
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True, but I think Angel would've looked like that no matter who tried to sit with him due to his antisocial tendencies lol. But I don't think he would've smiled like that and loosened up for just anyone. Her power.
I concur, 200%.

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I don't think she slept with anyone for the role, but the casting director/someone important in the play must've had a huge crush on her and been willing to overlook her, uh, lack of suitability for the part.
I like this, headcanon accepted.

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I get a kick out of Buffy being jealous of CA, too, and I love her with my whole heart so oops lol.
Oh good, so I'm not alone hehe.

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Buffy wouldn't have been jealous if she didn't sense something there between CA. Or at least, that's what I'm going to believe.
There is no other logic. She saw his smile, there is no possible way she didn't know something was going on there.


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Re: Cordy treating him like a person. It's probably because I read too much fic, but I like to believe he was a little disappointed when he realized she hadn't known he was a vampire and backed off once she truly found out.
Interesting. I like that but what would have given him the impression that she did know?

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Hmm. I wouldn't say she was only interested in him to get one over on Buffy. Cordy shows immediate attraction to him upon first seeing him and that is before she knows about his connection to Buffy at all.

It's highly possible her continued pursuit was partially due to her and Buffy's rivalry, but I also think she genuinely thought he was a hottie and wanted some Angel smoochies lol.
Exactly, she was totally smitten. As I said, you can see it in the way she looks at him after Buffy leaves the Bronze.

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No problem. Enjoy.

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Oh, I love that. There is a certain symbolism there about only the two characters destined to go off and be leads on their own show not being affected. A power duo from the beginning haha.

Lorne's "It's fate. It's the stars" comes to mind.

I love waxing poetic about these two in here. No other ship makes me gush this much haha.
*sigh* CA is poetry!
I don't think any other ship has so much amazing subtext and development.
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