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chemistry86 · 10-08-2009, 10:18 PM

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I do hope we get to see that shift and it's still not shallow. Otherwise I would rather him go for someone else. Although it's not like Rachel's feelings are really really deep either.

Um... idk. I guess there's chemistry there but the way Rachel is played and the way Finn is played it just doesn't work sometimes. I've seen vids of Lea and Cory being themselves and they're really cute together and friends so I guess they just don't have romantic chemistry.

And yeah... he's definitely not on her level but I don't think anyone else is besides Mercedes.

I think sometimes the way characters are played can influence the chemistry between two characters. That's why I never say physical chemistry is a direct consequence of the actors chemistry. Part of it comes from the script, lol. I think the character of Rachel is really uptight and awkward, so it's hard for any of her pairings to have any sex appeal. I find Quinn's makeouts with Finn a lot hotter because her character is a bit looser than Rachel.

And no one is at her level except Mercedes but no one will catch up unless their given a chance.

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I bet Will will try to make them all get over it.

Projecting his anger on Puck and Quinn or Puck and Rachel? But yeah I think he'll dump Quinn, whether or not she tries to get back with him is the real question. I just hope it's not a FNL redo where Jason and Lyla break up and then get back together after he forgives her for sleeping with his best friend.

It might be Dianna's gorgeousness coupled with getting the other characters shoved in your face. You want what you're not being given and she's very pretty.

Same with Puck.

I think Puck and Rachel happens before Puck and Quinn is revisted. I actually think the truth comes out during Puck and Rachel's relationship, but I have no idea how it happens. Then I think they'll go back to Quinn and Puck before the 13 eps are over. Well that's how it looks with the information we are being given

I agree about FNL, I hope that they don't back back together after he dumps her for cheating with his bff. But I get the impression that their going to win nationals and in a cheesy moment during their victory FR become official so I don't see FQ getting back together

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Making him the victim only makes Emma and Will look worse. And yeah I need more from the other characters. Not just Puck and Quinn but Mercedes and Kurt and Artie and Tina and the Cheerios.

Yeah, it's all the secondary characters that need to come out. The show is as interesting as their cast. And how any stories can revolve around only four main characters? Wouldn't it get boring after some time?

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How old were you when you first watched it? I was so amazed by the sex too but then all the other stuff happened.

Oh yeah it's not just about Buffy using Spike and Spike using Buffy. There's so much stuff involved that it's more than that. But to the casual viewer or the ones that don't want to see anything all they had was an abusive sexual relationship.

I was around 13 so I didn't know any better, LOL

I think the casual viewers wouldn't care to dig deep and would only see sex though. I doubt they'd see Buffy using Spike. I never saw that when I first watched. I think the online fans are the ones that like to discuss relationships and would come to the conclusion that she used him

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-08-2009, 10:35 PM

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I think sometimes the way characters are played can influence the chemistry between two characters. That's why I never say physical chemistry is a direct consequence of the actors chemistry. Part of it comes from the script, lol. I think the character of Rachel is really uptight and awkward, so it's hard for any of her pairings to have any sex appeal. I find Quinn's makeouts with Finn a lot hotter because her character is a bit looser than Rachel. And no one is at her level except Mercedes but no one will catch up unless their given a chance.

I definitely think that's part of it. I guess they could have a kind of charming awkward kind of chemistry but I don't see them having hot sexual chemistry. But I don't think that's supposed to be them anyway. That would be more Puck/Quinn if we're going on character type.

True but hey they are giving Finn the chance.

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I think Puck and Rachel happens before Puck and Quinn is revisted. I actually think the truth comes out during Puck and Rachel's relationship, but I have no idea how it happens. Then I think they'll go back to Quinn and Puck before the 13 eps are over. Well that's how it looks with the information we are being given I agree about FNL, I hope that they don't back back together after he dumps her for cheating with his bff. But I get the impression that their going to win nationals and in a cheesy moment during their victory FR become official so I don't see FQ getting back together

Are Puck and Rachel actually going to have something because as of now they haven't even talked? I don't mind them if it gives Puck more screentime and hey, maybe she talks to him about the situation and helps him with Quinn.

Eh... I really don't want that to be the way that FR get together. That's so been done... it would feel like OTH.

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Yeah, it's all the secondary characters that need to come out. The show is as interesting as their cast. And how any stories can revolve around only four main characters? Wouldn't it get boring after some time?

It would. Maybe they're planning to resolve at least FR in those episodes and then they can putt them in the background and focus on another pairing or other characters. I'll stick with that.

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I was around 13 so I didn't know any better, LOL I think the casual viewers wouldn't care to dig deep and would only see sex though. I doubt they'd see Buffy using Spike. I never saw that when I first watched. I think the online fans are the ones that like to discuss relationships and would come to the conclusion that she used him

Wow 13?

I would have been fascinated and amazed by the sex too.

I think I was a sophomore or junior in high school when S6 aired. I can't remember.

But yeah the casual viewer isn't going to see past the sex. But I wonder if they would see Spike using Buffy? Or what they would think about Buffy beating up Spike or breaking up with him and so on? What they would think about the AR? I honestly don't remember too much of my initial reactions because it was a while ago and now that I've been online I look at it with a different perspective.

chemistry86 · 10-08-2009, 11:03 PM

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I definitely think that's part of it. I guess they could have a kind of charming awkward kind of chemistry but I don't see them having hot sexual chemistry. But I don't think that's supposed to be them anyway. That would be more Puck/Quinn if we're going on character type.

True but hey they are giving Finn the chance.

I like passionate pairings, I that might be why I don't see it with Rachel/Finn. The only time I liked an awkward pairing was on Skins 1-2 but the context was different because the show had a more serious nature so all the pairings had more depth than the ones on Glee

I agree Puck's character is more the type to have the more sexual type of relationships so maybe that's why I like him better, LOL.

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Are Puck and Rachel actually going to have something because as of now they haven't even talked? I don't mind them if it gives Puck more screentime and hey, maybe she talks to him about the situation and helps him with Quinn.

Eh... I really don't want that to be the way that FR get together. That's so been done... it would feel like OTH.

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Yeah according to spoilers. I think they start talking because they both got slushied, lol. I mean promo pics show pictures of them in 1x08 which is only 2 episodes away so it doesn't seem as if they have anything in common.

Though I think it's over after an episode or so because it goes back to Puck/Quinn by 1x11. My fear is that Rachel is so awkward that not even Puck can make that pairing look hot.

I think it's a cliche way to get FR together but I suspect that's what happens. They just waited to see if fans would respond well to them and the last 9 episodes will be like them slowly working together to bring the team to national and getting together. Its so Leyton of them

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It would. Maybe they're planning to resolve at least FR in those episodes and then they can putt them in the background and focus on another pairing or other characters. I'll stick with that.

I hope that fans respond better to other characters so that the writers keep that in mind when they write the last 9 episodes

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Wow 13?

I would have been fascinated and amazed by the sex too.

I think I was a sophomore or junior in high school when S6 aired. I can't remember.

But yeah the casual viewer isn't going to see past the sex. But I wonder if they would see Spike using Buffy? Or what they would think about Buffy beating up Spike or breaking up with him and so on? What they would think about the AR? I honestly don't remember too much of my initial reactions because it was a while ago and now that I've been online I look at it with a different perspective.

I started when it was still on the air, lol. I remember I began watching when I was like in grade 8ish.

The show was on it's fifth season so I already knew about SB and saw the build up.

BUT I went back to watch seasons 1-4 when I was older and still didn't like BA. I think I was about as casual as it got back then and what I saw was Spike and Buffy having hot sex every episode, but I never stopped to consider that Spike was using Buffy or vice versa because I just took everything at face value. Though when the AR came I was furious because I never understood where it came from, since I thought the sex was wanted by both of them all season

. But I remember being upset not by the AR itself but because I was sure SB was over after that, lol.

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-09-2009, 09:11 AM

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I like passionate pairings, I that might be why I don't see it with Rachel/Finn. The only time I liked an awkward pairing was on Skins 1-2 but the context was different because the show had a more serious nature so all the pairings had more depth than the ones on Glee I agree Puck's character is more the type to have the more sexual type of relationships so maybe that's why I like him better, LOL.

That might be.

I don't really have a specific type when it comes to pairings. I don't think Rachel/Finn are epic or anything like that, not that any couple on Glee is or would be. I just like RF.... I can't even really say why.

But if we saw more of PQ I would definitely like them, probably more so just because Puck isn't so.... dimwitted.

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I think it's a cliche way to get FR together but I suspect that's what happens. They just waited to see if fans would respond well to them and the last 9 episodes will be like them slowly working together to bring the team to national and getting together. Its so Leyton of them

I don't think that just because Puck is hot he has to make every pairing hot.

It'll be interesting to see RP though... in whatever way. Bleh...I can't take a whole season of FR trying to get together. I like them but that's way too long considered how rushed they are. Although once they get together I have no idea what we're supposed to see from them.

Hopefully they'll get together and be on the backburner for other couples.... not WE though. They need to be stopped dead.

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I hope that fans respond better to other characters so that the writers keep that in mind when they write the last 9 episodes

I'm actually quite curious about the last episode that they've already filmed. If they didn't know that they were getting more episodes it would be more like a season finale right? Then it might seem rather lame to continue if some of the storylines have been completed.

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I started when it was still on the air, lol. I remember I began watching when I was like in grade 8ish. The show was on it's fifth season so I already knew about SB and saw the build up. BUT I went back to watch seasons 1-4 when I was older and still didn't like BA. I think I was about as casual as it got back then and what I saw was Spike and Buffy having hot sex every episode, but I never stopped to consider that Spike was using Buffy or vice versa because I just took everything at face value. Though when the AR came I was furious because I never understood where it came from, since I thought the sex was wanted by both of them all season. But I remember being upset not by the AR itself but because I was sure SB was over after that, lol.

I believe I was in 6th grade when Buffy first started. I did like BA... a lot. But back then I really just liked any couple that was together. I didn't know what shipping or anything like that was. Then when Spike came on I wanted him and Buffy and then when they happened I was such a fangirl in high school.

I couldn't believe that they kissed let alone had sex. I mean it was Spike!.

Then when I would rewatch the episodes on FX every day I started to not like BA... I got tired of them and fell more in love with SB. I never got the depth and seriousness of most of the stuff on the show. I watched it at face value too but the online community completely changed all that. I see stuff that I never thought I would. Metaphors and meanings and so on. Things that maybe the writers didn't even think of. The AR was horrible for me. I couldn't believe that Spike did that but I remember my reaction to him getting his soul... when we saw the demon give it to him. My jaw was like on the floor. I think I was actually speechless and couldn't wait for S7 to start.

chemistry86 · 10-09-2009, 09:41 AM

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That might be.

I don't really have a specific type when it comes to pairings. I don't think Rachel/Finn are epic or anything like that, not that any couple on Glee is or would be. I just like RF.... I can't even really say why.

But if we saw more of PQ I would definitely like them, probably more so just because Puck isn't so.... dimwitted.

LOL. I could like RF more if it didn't involve making Quinn look bad. I just want her to dump Finn and move on so she can ger her own storylines, lol.

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I don't think that just because Puck is hot he has to make every pairing hot.

It'll be interesting to see RP though... in whatever way. Bleh...I can't take a whole season of FR trying to get together. I like them but that's way too long considered how rushed they are. Although once they get together I have no idea what we're supposed to see from them.

Hopefully they'll get together and be on the backburner for other couples.... not WE though. They need to be stopped dead.

I am not interested to see PR because I barely got PQ and now Rachel is going after another one of Quinn's guys? This is seriously annoying. Rachel is equivalent to Peyton for me in that regard. I know that's horrible to say but....

Ugh, I just hate that I feel this way about Rachel considering she is the lead. Plus, I saw a lot of fans from Spring Awakening and did you know they all hate Lea Michele? They said she's the same as her character Rachel in RL. That's so sad....

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I'm actually quite curious about the last episode that they've already filmed. If they didn't know that they were getting more episodes it would be more like a season finale right? Then it might seem rather lame to continue if some of the storylines have been completed.

I know that's what's weird. How are they going to write the followup episodes? However, looking at the pace in which their going, I don't think they reach Nationals by episode 13, lol. I think they saved that stuff until they got fan response.

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I believe I was in 6th grade when Buffy first started. I did like BA... a lot. But back then I really just liked any couple that was together. I didn't know what shipping or anything like that was. Then when Spike came on I wanted him and Buffy and then when they happened I was such a fangirl in high school.

I couldn't believe that they kissed let alone had sex. I mean it was Spike!.

Then when I would rewatch the episodes on FX every day I started to not like BA... I got tired of them and fell more in love with SB. I never got the depth and seriousness of most of the stuff on the show. I watched it at face value too but the online community completely changed all that. I see stuff that I never thought I would. Metaphors and meanings and so on. Things that maybe the writers didn't even think of. The AR was horrible for me. I couldn't believe that Spike did that but I remember my reaction to him getting his soul... when we saw the demon give it to him. My jaw was like on the floor. I think I was actually speechless and couldn't wait for S7 to start.

Yeah I think it's hard to get the seriousness of any show until you get older. That's why I always watch TV shows again at an older age. When I was younger I actually liked Leyton but then I rewatched it and hated them...a lot

I think when I came online I started to think things out in regards to all my shows because so many people think deep and it changed my perspective too.

Btw, I think season 3 of BTVS is seriously boring. There is no conflict, I can't believe I am rewatching it

NBalways · 10-09-2009, 09:48 AM

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-09-2009, 10:01 AM

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LOL. I could like RF more if it didn't involve making Quinn look bad. I just want her to dump Finn and move on so she can ger her own storylines, lol.

You want Quinn to dump Finn? Do you think it would be received well if she did dump Finn after having all the secrets come out and then go to Puck?

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I am not interested to see PR because I barely got PQ and now Rachel is going after another one of Quinn's guys? This is seriously annoying. Rachel is equivalent to Peyton for me in that regard. I know that's horrible to say but....Ugh, I just hate that I feel this way about Rachel considering she is the lead. Plus, I saw a lot of fans from Spring Awakening and did you know they all hate Lea Michele? They said she's the same as her character Rachel in RL. That's so sad....

Are we sure Rachel is going after Puck? Maybe he approaches her for whatever reason.

Don't compare Rachel to Peyton.

I honestly don't know why but I do like Rachel... even though she's weird and rude and awkward. Seriously? All the SA fans don't like her? Do they not like her because she's like Rachel in real life? If so that makes me a bit sad, even though I did read that she said she was like Rachel in high school. The actors I usually like are far from the characters they play.

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I know that's what's weird. How are they going to write the followup episodes? However, looking at the pace in which their going, I don't think they reach Nationals by episode 13, lol. I think they saved that stuff until they got fan response.

So we'll get 7 more episodes of them trying to get to nationals and then 9 getting there and back?

In all honesty I hope they don't win.

It makes it more realistic... just like with FNL.

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Yeah I think it's hard to get the seriousness of any show until you get older. That's why I always watch TV shows again at an older age. When I was younger I actually liked Leyton but then I rewatched it and hated them...a lot I think when I came online I started to think things out in regards to all my shows because so many people think deep and it changed my perspective too.

Btw, I think season 3 of BTVS is seriously boring. There is no conflict, I can't believe I am rewatching it

I don't think I've rewatched shows after I've gotten older except for BTVS and ATS. And even then with them I don't see everything that everyone else does. It's definitely been coming on here and other forums that have opened my eyes. Before coming online I just watched shows in this sort of blissful state of entertainment and face value.

S3 is definitely not a favorite season of mine even with the WO stuff. Although some say S7 is just like it but with Spike instead of Angel.

Sara!

How's your shoulder?

chemistry86 · 10-09-2009, 11:24 AM

Hey Sara

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You want Quinn to dump Finn? Do you think it would be received well if she did dump Finn after having all the secrets come out and then go to Puck?

I don't think she'd dump Finn to go to Puck, because she doesn't even like Puck right now, lol. I think it would be well received if she dumped Finn because she knew they were going in different paths and she shouldn't stop him. Though my bb always has bad luck. He'll probably dump her for Rachel.

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Are we sure Rachel is going after Puck? Maybe he approaches her for whatever reason.

Don't compare Rachel to Peyton.

I honestly don't know why but I do like Rachel... even though she's weird and rude and awkward. Seriously? All the SA fans don't like her? Do they not like her because she's like Rachel in real life? If so that makes me a bit sad, even though I did read that she said she was like Rachel in high school. The actors I usually like are far from the characters they play.

I think he got slushied for being in Glee club, loL (promo pics). That's how they become friends and probably bond over their disppointment in Finn/Quinn, lmfao.

Well she's equal to Peyton in the fact that she's supposed to be the topdog. I find this writing annoying, but especially if I like another character better

. Yeah, they don't like her because they said she's a diva like Rachel and she always has to have the center of attention. But they just let her sing because they knew she had talent

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So we'll get 7 more episodes of them trying to get to nationals and then 9 getting there and back?

In all honesty I hope they don't win.

It makes it more realistic... just like with FNL.

Well the way I see it is right now we're on episode 7 coming up and we have not gotten any closer to nationals, lol. It's going at a slow pace because their trying to get some sort of equilibrium in the club. I think when 13 episodes end that's when the nationals start. I think it would be more realistic if they lost too but I don't think they will and I am not even sure if I want them too. Last thing I need is them paning to a devastated Rachel so people will feel sorry for her

I don't think I've rewatched shows after I've gotten older except for BTVS and ATS. And even then with them I don't see everything that everyone else does. It's definitely been coming on here and other forums that have opened my eyes. Before coming online I just watched shows in this sort of blissful state of entertainment and face value.

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S3 is definitely not a favorite season of mine even with the WO stuff. Although some say S7 is just like it but with Spike instead of Angel.

I don't know how people can say that when it's obvious that s7 was working towards something, the final battle. s3 was just cute stuff happening because s2 was already so big with it's Angelus conflict. There was no ultimate goal in season 3, it just dragged on

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-09-2009, 12:56 PM

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I don't think she'd dump Finn to go to Puck, because she doesn't even like Puck right now, lol. I think it would be well received if she dumped Finn because she knew they were going in different paths and she shouldn't stop him. Though my bb always has bad luck. He'll probably dump her for Rachel.

Well at least then she wouldn't be the bad guy. Finn and Rachel would be.

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I think he got slushied for being in Glee club, loL (promo pics). That's how they become friends and probably bond over their disppointment in Finn/Quinn, lmfao. Well she's equal to Peyton in the fact that she's supposed to be the topdog. I find this writing annoying, but especially if I like another character better. Yeah, they don't like her because they said she's a diva like Rachel and she always has to have the center of attention. But they just let her sing because they knew she had talent

Oh that's right. I forgot they both get slushied.

I'm sure that's what happens.

I'm just curious to see their scenes. I'm not rooting for them to be a couple or anything. And hey that might at least get Puck more airtime.

Well Peyton wasn't supposed to be the best at everything... she was just the female lead.

But I guess she sort of is like Peyton... as long as she doesn't start saying her and Finn are epic I'm okay though.

That sucks. I wish she wasn't like that in real life. That really makes it hard to like her character.

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Well the way I see it is right now we're on episode 7 coming up and we have not gotten any closer to nationals, lol. It's going at a slow pace because their trying to get some sort of equilibrium in the club. I think when 13 episodes end that's when the nationals start. I think it would be more realistic if they lost too but I don't think they will and I am not even sure if I want them too. Last thing I need is them paning to a devastated Rachel so people will feel sorry for her

But maybe the loss will humble Rachel a little bit. And honestly wouldn't Finn be more disappointed? He was the one that was counting on this scholarships or something, that's why he wanted Rachel back in Glee.

But I guess that sounds about right storyline wise. And they do need episodes to deal with the whole baby issue for Will and Quinn.

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I don't know how people can say that when it's obvious that s7 was working towards something, the final battle. s3 was just cute stuff happening because s2 was already so big with it's Angelus conflict. There was no ultimate goal in season 3, it just dragged on

Well they all had to fight the Mayor... and the First made an appearance in S3. But yeah I don't see it either but I was talking about the whole BA v SB storyline. People think it's a copy of S3 BA.

I guess because both were vampires with a soul struggling with what they did and hanging onto Buffy knowing they weren't good enough for her. Both wanting either Buffy or the sun to kill them because they are such horrible monsters.

ZenFan · 10-09-2009, 01:31 PM

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Oh that's right. I forgot they both get slushied.

I'm sure that's what happens.

I'm just curious to see their scenes. I'm not rooting for them to be a couple or anything. And hey that might at least get Puck more airtime.

Well Peyton wasn't supposed to be the best at everything... she was just the female lead.

But I guess she sort of is like Peyton... as long as she doesn't start saying her and Finn are epic I'm okay though.

That sucks. I wish she wasn't like that in real life. That really makes it hard to like her character.

Once again, I have no clue what you guys are talking about.

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People think it's a copy of S3 BA.

I guess because both were vampires with a soul struggling with what they did and hanging onto Buffy knowing they weren't good enough for her. Both wanting either Buffy or the sun to kill them because they are such horrible monsters.

I never really realized that before, I guess there are similarities but I never thought they copied BA.

I just wanted to come on here quick because I just had the best day ever!

My magazines I got last week? Well Fed-Ex found the original package they lost in the first place, and I ended up having to replace a magazine, but since I got my old package today that means I got a Buffy magazine FREE. (Plus today I finally got my license, which has a long story involved, and I got 105 on a test so I was already super happy.)

chemistry86 · 10-09-2009, 01:32 PM

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Oh that's right. I forgot they both get slushied.

I'm sure that's what happens.

I'm just curious to see their scenes. I'm not rooting for them to be a couple or anything. And hey that might at least get Puck more airtime.

Well Peyton wasn't supposed to be the best at everything... she was just the female lead.

But I guess she sort of is like Peyton... as long as she doesn't start saying her and Finn are epic I'm okay though.

That sucks. I wish she wasn't like that in real life. That really makes it hard to like her character.

Uhmm it does give Puck more airtime but my annoyance is that his airtime has to revolve around Rachel or Finn. Can't he have a storyline of his own? Ugh, I just really don't feel excited about that SL. I hope they atleast have chemistry.

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But maybe the loss will humble Rachel a little bit. And honestly wouldn't Finn be more disappointed? He was the one that was counting on this scholarships or something, that's why he wanted Rachel back in Glee.

But I guess that sounds about right storyline wise. And they do need episodes to deal with the whole baby issue for Will and Quinn.

He only wanted a scholarship because he thought Quinn was pregnant though, lol. I don't think that will be a main concern for him once he finds out the truth. I hope when that episode comes they don't make it about Finn and Will. I mean it's Quinn's issue, it should be about her.

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They all had to fight the Mayor... and the First made an appearance in S3. But yeah I don't see it either but I was talking about the whole BA v SB storyline. People think it's a copy of S3 BA.

I guess because both were vampires with a soul struggling with what they did and hanging onto Buffy knowing they weren't good enough for her. Both wanting either Buffy or the sun to kill them because they are such horrible monsters.

I guess I can see it but for some reason I still liked SB in s7, it felt more genuine. This might be because it was a resolution to what had happened in season 6. In season 3 BA looked like they had no idea what to do with Angel's character.

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-09-2009, 07:00 PM

April.... we're talking about Glee and Spuffy.

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I just wanted to come on here quick because I just had the best day ever! My magazines I got last week? Well Fed-Ex found the original package they lost in the first place, and I ended up having to replace a magazine, but since I got my old package today that means I got a Buffy magazine FREE. (Plus today I finally got my license, which has a long story involved, and I got 105 on a test so I was already super happy.)

Aw that's so cool.

Woohoo for getting a magazine free and passing your test and getting your license.

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I never really realized that before, I guess there are similarities but I never thought they copied BA.

I think that's why some BAers don't like S7.

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Uhmm it does give Puck more airtime but my annoyance is that his airtime has to revolve around Rachel or Finn. Can't he have a storyline of his own? Ugh, I just really don't feel excited about that SL. I hope they atleast have chemistry.

But maybe it will lead to him getting his own storyline and having scenes with Quinn. You've got to stay positive!

I hope they have chemistry too.... maybe Mark's one of those guys that can have it with anyone... even a door.

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He only wanted a scholarship because he thought Quinn was pregnant though, lol. I don't think that will be a main concern for him once he finds out the truth. I hope when that episode comes they don't make it about Finn and Will. I mean it's Quinn's issue, it should be about her.

Oh that's right. Maybe they won't tell him until after nationals? Do we have any idea when the truth comes out? There should be a lot of Quinn in the episode for sure... I don't even think it should involve Will at all. They could have another episode be about him and Terri.

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I guess I can see it but for some reason I still liked SB in s7, it felt more genuine. This might be because it was a resolution to what had happened in season 6. In season 3 BA looked like they had no idea what to do with Angel's character.

S7 was about Joss showing that man can be redeemed. And I love that he took the time to make sure Spike was redeemed for what happened. And he had a huge purpose to fulfill. In Beneath You Buffy asked him if he was trying to be the people's champion and in Chosen he actually was.

And they didn't know what to do with Angel in S3. He wasn't even going to be brought back after being sent to hell but Joss got the greenlight for ATS. And obviously him and Buffy couldn't really get back together because of the curse and him leaving so yeah... I just didn't like that season but it's more than just that storyline. I don't like the Mayor or Faith that much. And I don't like WX cheating and the lack of Spike.

ZenFan · 10-09-2009, 07:07 PM

I've been meaning to watch Glee! My friend loves it but I always forget when it comes on. Idk, I try not to get into shows much these days...I tend to get obsessed, like with Buffy. I can never just like a show.

You didn't like Faith? She's not my favorite but I didn't hate her or anything, the fight between Faith and Buffy in Graduation Day is one of my favorites. S3 overall wasn't my favorite, but The Mayor did make me laugh from time to time and I loved the season finale. It ranks in the middle for me.

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-09-2009, 07:13 PM

Watch Glee... it's so much fun to watch.

It comes on Wednesdays on Fox at 9/8 central.

I don't get obsessed with shows that often. Most are just for entertainment but some are like Buffy and I never get over them.

Oh Faith was okay. I didn't hate her but she wasn't a favorite of mine either. I guess I just didn't like The Mayor really and since he was involved with Faith I sort of disliked her too.

Buffy and Faith in Graduation Day was so great. I couldn't even tell you who I was rooting for then.

The finale will always be one of my favorites.

When all the students band together to defeat the Mayor and the vamps. But the season overall is my second favorite.

ZenFan · 10-09-2009, 07:22 PM

I think I might check out the episodes I missed online sometime soon, I think it looks really good from the previews I just always forget. Now Nip Tuck will be on at 10 on Wednesdays!

Usually I'll be obsessed with a new show for a good year but Buffy is the one I never forget about.

I got a "Buffy staked Edward" T-Shirt (I'm very anti-Twilight) and when I showed it to my dad he said, "I thought you got over that Buffy phase a couple of years ago." I was like, "It is not a phase!!"

My list of favorites is too hard to come up with. S5 and 6 have to tie for me, then it would be 7, 3, 2, 4, and 1. Although S3 and 2 might have to tie, so much Spike in S2 makes me want to watch it more.