Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Episode Discussion: 4x11 Doomed - Page 2

**ashleyt** · 10-21-2009, 11:28 AM

I can not see that happening.

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-21-2009, 12:14 PM

Well then did he just not get his one jacket, shirt, and jeans dirty?

**ashleyt** · 10-21-2009, 12:21 PM

Maybe he just stole new clothes

Or he sent it out

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-21-2009, 12:33 PM

I can't see him sending it out. He probably stole new ones.

Or had hundreds of the same thing stored somewhere.

**ashleyt** · 10-21-2009, 12:38 PM

Except for his coat so I'm thinking he sent that out.

**Burning Up A Sun** · 10-21-2009, 01:04 PM

He probably did... the only new one he got was in ATS S5.

**ashleyt** · 10-23-2009, 09:01 PM

I can totally see Spike sending out his jacket

saturn5 · 12-10-2009, 02:54 PM

Doomed
The Good;
Some good fights and character advancement and some excellent comedy. Favourite bit off all has to be Spike's 'American' accent (all the more brilliant when you think that this is an American playing an English character playing an American)
The Bad;
Riley says the demon is 3 metres tall which would make it nearly ten feet and seems way too much (drug dealers aside americans never did learn to use the metric system). He estimates it at 120kgs. How exactly? Buffy's leap down the Hellmouth beggars belief but maybe the laws of physics work differently there.
Best line;
Giles; It's the end of the world
Xander/Willow; Again!
Wheldon Cliches;

Character death;
One dead guy at party
Shot;
Tied up;
Knocked out;
Giles again
Women good/men bad;
Poor Willow, inadvertently wounded by Percy at the party.
Jeez!;
Willow lying in the guys blood and the symbol carved into his chest
Kinky dinky;
The partygoers want to play 'naked limbo'. Riley says his skin is 'humming'. He also says he's not going to 'force himself upon' Buffy.
Calling Captain Subtext;
Spike calls Xander a poof.
Guantanamo Bay;
Scoobies to the ER;
Where's Dawn?
Apocalypses; 5, the demons want to open the Hellmouth
Questions and observations;
Percy back, hooray. Last time we'll see him unfortunately. Xander is now a pizza delivery boy just as Cordy predicted. Interesting that just as Spike says, Willow and Xander at the end are still the High School Nerds watching TV in their basement. Oddly enough Giles tries to 'Scully' Buffy both in this ep and in Hush. Marc Blucas appears in the titles for the first time. In many ways this is making the point that Xander and Willow are still the geeks they were in High School, Willow is lost at the party, she doesn't have Oz any more and doesn't have Tara yet. Reputedly the scene where Buffy objects to Giles' drawing of her was actually improvised by the cast.
Riley says they track demons by their phermones, very like how Adam Baldwin's MiB's track the alien in Predator 2. Buffy refers to Faith and says that Slayers don't live past 25 (she and Faith both have now, they're the most successful Slayers ever). It's actually Xander who figures out the demons are the sacrifices. Quite a long ep coming in at 42 minutes (Amends is the longest at nearly 43).
Marks out of 10; 6/10, nothing wrong with it but it comes after a very strong couple of eps

Sin* · 12-23-2009, 12:12 AM

Wasn't this the lowest rated episode of the season (series?) up to this point? I didn't like this episode largely because I didn't like season 4. I also thought Riley with Buffy was just dreadfully and tear-inducingly boring.

**ashleyt** · 12-25-2009, 04:29 AM

I have no idea about the ratings for this episode but I didn't think it was so bad

Just a decent filler in a lack luster season.