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Old 10-28-2017, 10:47 AM
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No. I just started the comics with A&F. I intend to read it eventually tho.


Get ready for more resentment.

So apparently Faith was dropped from the Angel&Faith comics for season 11 and now it's called just Angel, but is basically Angel&Fred. Angel and Illyria travel back into Angel's past or some **** and in the last comic they kissed.

I'm done. Will not be reading ANY of Angel season 11.
Joss always loved Fred.

I actually didn't hate Fred at first.

It's mostly when I rewatched & it made me mad she took Cordy's place.

She was the female lead Season 5.

I never understood why Wes & Gun were so in love with Fred.

Look at Cordy! She is Gorgeous!

How could they not have been fighting over her?

That's just wrong in the Comics.

I know Faith was in the last part of the Buffy Comics.

She has gone back & forth between both Comics in the past.

I really thought never understood why Angel & Faith wasn't just called Angel.

I get she was the main char. next to him though.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:14 AM
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I really thought never understood why Angel & Faith wasn't just called Angel.
Yeah, she was co-lead. It makes sense if you read it. The plot centers around both of them equally, and their unique bond and friendship. I loved season 9 so much, and even 10 had it's moments and ended at least in a feel good spot that left me wanting more.

Season 11 sounds like pure garbage. I'm mad I invested in something and started to dig A&F only for it to immediately turn to ****.

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Joss always loved Fred.

I actually didn't hate Fred at first.
Joss isn't writing S11 of Angel. Some no-name comic writer is.

I have a complicated history with Fred. I found her very annoying at first. On a shallow note and something that was no fault of her own, her voice grated on me. I remember being so mad she stuck around after Pylea. I was like 'they're KEEPING her?'

She eventually sort of grew on me but I hate the direction they took her character. She was used as a plot device to ruin the Gunn&Wes friendship and the Fang Gang's family vibe, and then after that used mostly to further Wesley's plot and man pain. She deserved better.

I loved the glimpses we got of badass survivalist Fred who would cut a bitch if you crossed her and also enjoyed seeing them delve into her PTSD from Pylea. I wish we'd gotten more of that and more of a Cordy and Fred friendship.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:21 AM
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Yeah, she was co-lead. It makes sense if you read it. The plot centers around both of them equally, and their unique bond and friendship. I loved season 9 so much, and even 10 had it's moments and ended at least in a feel good spot that left me wanting more.

Season 11 sounds like pure garbage. I'm mad I invested in something and started to dig A&F only for it to immediately turn to ****.



Joss isn't writing S11 of Angel. Some no-name comic writer is.

I have a complicated history with Fred. I found her very annoying at first. On a shallow note and something that was no fault of her own, her voice grated on me. I remember being so mad she stuck around after Pylea. I was like 'they're KEEPING her?'

She eventually sort of grew on me but I hate the direction they took her character. She was used as a plot device to ruin the Gunn&Wes friendship and the Fang Gang's family vibe, and then after that used mostly to further Wesley's plot and man pain. She deserved better.

I loved the glimpses we got of badass survivalist Fred who would cut a bitch if you crossed her and also enjoyed seeing them delve into her PTSD from Pylea. I wish we'd gotten more of that and more of a Cordy and Fred friendship.
I read Joss still has main control & they have story meetings like always did during the show.

Joss has also says he loves all the freedom he has in the Comics & that the network held him back a lot with his writing.

Fred's voice was something that annoyed me & I'm southern.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:31 AM
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Fred's voice was something that annoyed me & I'm southern.
LMAO. Glad it wasn't just me being petty.

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Oh for sure. I'm sure the meetings go like
"We were thinking of bringing Cordelia Chase back"
Joss: "No."
*pitches other actual good ideas*
Joss: "No."
"...We were thinking of bringing back Fred, having Angel fall for her, replacing Faith as co-lead and circle jerking on Fred as much as possible."
Joss: "Brilliant! I give my approval. Full steam ahead."

the Angel&Illria kiss if anyone wants to scar their eyes
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LMAO. Glad it wasn't just me being petty.



Oh for sure. I'm sure the meetings go like
"We were thinking of bringing Cordelia Chase back"
Joss: "No."
*pitches other actual good ideas*
Joss: "No."
"...We were thinking of bringing back Fred, having Angel fall for her, replacing Faith as co-lead and circle jerking on Fred as much as possible."
Joss: "Brilliant! I give my approval. Full steam ahead."

the Angel&Illria kiss if anyone wants to scar their eyes
Well on the show every script had to have final approval.

That's why you see stuff is diff. in a lot of Orig. Shooting Scripts from BTVS.

I just know that I read he still has a lot of control.

I can see that happening sadly.

That is probably more how things are now.

I read Joss writes season outlines.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:42 AM
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That's why you see stuff is diff. in a lot of Orig. Shooting Scripts from BTVS.
I wish we had the original shooting scripts for ATS on Buffyworld as well. It's so interesting to read them.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:54 AM
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I wish we had the original shooting scripts for ATS on Buffyworld as well. It's so interesting to read them.
You can only get on there now on wayback.

I wish that too.

Joss didn't have as much control of ATS until David Greenwalt left.

I still never heard why he left.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:58 AM
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I use it without Wayback.

I miss screencap paradise. Had the best BTVS/ATS caps
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I use it without Wayback.

I miss screencap paradise. Had the best BTVS/ATS caps
I tried to use it a few times in the past & the site wouldn't work anymore.

I loved that site.

I saved a lot of caps from there actually of Cangel.
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I saved a lot of caps from there actually of Cangel.
Same. But now they are all lost due to PB.
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Same. But now they are all lost due to PB.
Yeah they are in my first PB.

I could reupload b/c I downloaded all my albums I wanted from PB.

I have basically everything I wanted saved.

I got the best of everything else of Spuffy & Cangel majority.

The same with Buffy/SMG in PB. Plus other things I saved of other ships.

It won't automatically download gifs though.

There is so much to reupload somewhere else.

It's such a pain!

7 Years of mostly Spuffy saved from everywhere on the net!

I wish there was a way that they could make it where the old stuff could still work.

That you have to pay for new but that's all.

They could change it to make the hosting on sites like FF work again with the old stuff.
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I got the best of everything else of Spuffy & Cangel majority.
I'm glad you were able to rescue the best stuff.

And I knoooow, re-uploading it all is too much.
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I'm glad you were able to rescue the best stuff.

And I knoooow, re-uploading it all is too much.
Yeah PB started letting you download for backup a while ago.

Like reg. arts made years ago from art sites & LJ along with caps are saved.

I saved majority of what I had of Buffy/SMG in PB too. There are a lot of arts of BTVS & ATS in general too from the art sites.

You can download from PB still if you are logged in on the site anywhere.

You can get to your albums still b/c I had to do that to download some things I hadn't backed up of other ships.

I hate you have to download gifs one at a time now.

So many EJabby gifs I had to do this with a lot.

It used to download them. Luckily I got to them before it wouldn't work anymore mostly.

I downloaded from all 5 of my PB accounts majority now.

Just think of everything I posted on SMG especially through the years & you will remember all I have that was saved.
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^That sounds like such a hassle. Sorry you had to do that. I hope PB goes under.

Some pretty:


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I have feeling PB will go under for this.

They should have asked for like 5 or 10 dollars for new hosting not 400!

Heck even up to maybe 50 dollars for hosting new stuff.

They should reverse having the old stuff ruined.

That would probably be the only way to salvage PB.

I love that moment & art.


I think I have that saved actually.
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