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| Master Fan   Joined: Oct 2002
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| Anti-Buffy/Angel 37: Old bum falls in love with 15 year old -disturbing, NOT romantic Anti-Buffy/Angel thread    Banner by Sweetie Buffy/Angel (Bungel) Opponents
POETRY Sweetie  **Jessica** B/A is real gross It's putrid and disgusting Like moldy jell-o Scythe She was so young he in no need of a lung but then there were tongues the whole thing was no fun. Cloudburst2000 I'm a paedophile Let's date for a while Sleep with me Little girlie I'll lose my soul When around the bed we roll I'll hunt you and your friends Then get sent to hell in the end I'll come back soul and all But off to L.A. I will haul 'Cause I can't sleep with you What else is a horny vamp to do? I'll come around now and then To kiss you again and again And then say 'Sorry, but we can only be friends' For this is twu luve, I say Even though I'm really gay. Hmm...maybe Wesley will come out and play. Lil'Mims The B/A Show (to the tune of Itchy & Scratchy) "They kissed, we gagged, poked our eyes out and we screamed. It's so bad, oh so baaaaad! The B/A bleh bleh Shooooooooooooow!" LivingDeadDoll Eternal Lollipop (from Angel's P.O.V.) You took my breath away when I first saw you And if it would beat, you would make my heart stop. I knew you were my true soulmate, my one love Watching from the bushes as you sucked on a lollipop. Oh, if I only I could be that cherry-sweet confection Gliding along your adolescent tongue with ease. Some may cry "Molester!" or call me Woody Allen, But I need your love, I'm begging on my knees. My cookie-dough sweetheart, my jail-bait lover Kiss me now, but please don't tell your mom She'll try to stop you from giving me your love, But I do so want to take you to your senior prom. I adore you with all of my undead, eternal being When you're laying in my arms, my world's at peace. I could spend eternity making love to you, my dear Just lie about your age to the police. and Lover, Too Late (Angel's P.O.V.) I loved you within every inch of my soul You brought me into the light To flee unforgiving night Where the darkness would swallow me whole. You told me that from you I needn't hide You are everything good While alone you have stood And I wish I could be by your side. I would have stayed by you, using any means Lover, don't grieve But I have to leave Because Wesley looks better in jeans. I thought I was straight - I guess I was wrong I found out the truth That I was a fruit When I first saw Spike in a thong. You are so beautiful, a goddess as Venus You were my love My one turtle dove It's just too bad you don't have a penis. Our Purpose: To let Joss know that not everyone supports B/A... Oh and to let everyone else know that B/A suck a lot. Rules: The only rule here is to not support B/A. Also, we don't bash any other couple here but B/A. There are threads for other couple bashing. Anyone who doesn't support B/A is welcome to post. Trolls, however, are NOT welcome. Over This -- a clique for those who have gotten over B/A and are more than ready to move on. Past Tense -- the official B/A Hatelisting. Go join! The Ultimate B/A Parody Why is this the 'ultimate parody' of the B/A relationship? Because this parody comes directly from the episode ?Fredless? from Angel so we did not make it up. And that is what makes it so ultimate because even the show's writers were making fun of the B/A ship. And kudos to JanineW for posting this scene Fred: "So - now that she's alive again, are they gonna get back together? Angel and that girl with the goofy name?" Wes: "Well - *Fred* - that's a difficult question. I think it's fair to say - no. Not a chance, never, no way, not in a million years, and also 'nuh-uh.'" Fred: "But you said he loved her. And of course she's gonna love him back, because he's so strong and handsome and he really listens when you talk. I-I mean, if you go for that sort of thing, why wouldn't it work?" Cordy: "Let me break it down for you, Fred." She steps away from the reception counter and pretends to be Buffy, overdramatic voice and actions. Cordy: "Oh - Angel! I know that I'm a Slayer and you a vampire - and it would be impossible for us to be together - but!" Gunn laughs at Cordy's act. Wes: (standing up) "But!" Cordy turns to look at him. Wes pulls his glasses off and lays them to the side. Wes: (pretending to be Angel) "My gypsy curse sometimes prevent me from seeing the truth. Oh, Buffy!" Cordy: "Yes, Angel?" Wes: "Oh, I love you so much I almost forgot to brood!" Fred watches wide-eyed. Gunn is laughing. Cordy: "And just because I sent you to hell that one time doesn't mean that we can't just be friends!" Wes grabs a hold of Cordy's wrist. Cordy: "Oh!" Wes: "Or possibly more." Cordy: "Gasp! No! We mustn't." Wes pulls Cordy close. Wes: "Kiss me." Cordy: "Bite me!" Wes bends Cordy back over his arm and pretends to sink his fangs into her neck. Angel: (off screen) "How about you both bite me."  Bangel Parodies by the always awesome Yoda-Mira and let's thank Cati for offering to host the parodies on her site after the first links died Parody #1  Parody #2  Parody #3  Parody #4  Parody #5  Parody #6  Parody #7  Parody #9  Parody #10  sum1's parodies: Parody of BTVS season 1 episode Angel: Buffy faces off against Angel, crossbow aimed at him. Angel: Hey, don't shoot! I'm a vampire with a soul! Well, most of the time. Sometimes, it pops out and I have to pop it back in again. Buffy: A vampire with a soul? How lame is that? Angel: I know, it's really depressing. Why do you think I spend all my time brooding? It's much more fun when it pops out. Then I get to say nasty things and make fun of people. Buffy: Ooh, scary. Angel: But I didn't bite your mom, that was Darla. I drink pigs blood, not human. Buffy: Pigs blood? Gross! And so totally uncool. And I know you didn't bite my mom. She could have beat you up easily. Angel: But then why did you smash me out the window? Why the crossbow? Buffy: Do you have any idea how bad that kiss was? This one's inspired by what Angel said in IWRY about B/A: "It's more than confusing, it's unbearable." Angel: Uhhhhh... Buffy: What? Angel: I'm too soulful to tell you. Buffy: We've got a communication barrier. Angel: Yeah, we can't understand each other at all. Buffy: We just stand around with stupid expressions on our faces and say stupid fake sounding things and there's no connection whatsoever. Angel: And no chemistry. I mean chemistry like romance chemistry, not science chemistry. But you knew that... Buffy: So what's our relationship all about? Angel: Beats me. Maybe it's about brooding? Or being depressed or something? I know a lot about that stuff. Buffy: It's confusing. Angel: It's more than confusing, it's unbearable. Buffy: Wow. We must be really in love. Angel: Tragic. Buffy: Forbidden immortal love. Spike: Sodding hell, I think I'm going to barf. Parody of BTVS season 7 B/A reunion: Buffy: "Are you going to show up and go all Dawson on me every time I have a boyfriend?" Angel: "Ah hah. Boyfriend." Buffy: "He's not. But... He is in my heart. Well... really, he is my boyfriend, but I'm not supposed to admit it on the show." Angel: "That will end well." Buffy: "The show? I doubt it. It seems to be turning into a real mess. I mean, look at this stupid reunion..." Angel: "Well, yeah... why do I have to come all the way from LA just to hear you going on about cookie dough?" Buffy: "Hey! That wasn't my idea! They made me say all that stuff!" Angel: "You think that's bad? You should hear some of the stuff we have to say on my show!" Buffy: "So? We've had all sorts of nonsense here. Theres's been a concerted effort to mess up my relationship with Spike. It's like he's not politically correct or something." Angel: "Well, I was so much better for you, anyway. I'm the Champion, after all." Buffy: "Riiiight. At least Spike cares. He loves me. And I love him. But I'm not supposed to say so." (Looks around nervously for B/A shippers.) Angel: "Heeeeey! We had a great relationship! I mean, remember the sex?" Buffy: "What was the highlight of our relationship... when you broke up with me or when I killed you?" Angel: "Uhhhh... when I broke up with you. I mean, that was good. I really liked it when you got all broken up about it. That was fun. You're real funny sometimes, you know?" (Points finger at her and laughs.) Buffy: "You didn't like it when I killed you?" Angel: "Uhhhh..." (scratches his head) "not really." Buffy: "Well, I sure did." Buffy in Wolfram and Hart: Buffy arrives in Wolfram and Hart. She wanders around, looking for anybody she knows and sees Angel. He's standing in a dark corner, talking to himself. His back is turned to her. Angel: I'm a vampire with... without a brain? No, that's not it... without a soul? No, with a soul? What's the difference? Hmmmm. The difference is... I've got a soul and I'm depressed about it. That's it! I'm depressed. Buffy: Angel? Angel: Leave me alone! I'm brooding! (Pulls a mirror out of his pocket -he stubbornly refuses to admit to himself he doesn't show up in it.) I'm called "Angel" because I look like one. (Checks his hair.) Do I? (Grimaces gloomily into the mirror, then turns around to Buffy.) Do I look like an Angel to you? Buffy: You look like you've too much time on your hands! Angel: Are you baked? Buffy: Baked?! What sort of kinky question is that? Angel: I mean, like... cookies. Buffy: Huh? Are you feeling alright? Too much sun? Well, artificial sun. Or whatever. Angel: I mean, like in our talk before Spike blew up Sunnydale. Buffy: Oh, that. I wasn't serious. Just joking with you. Little bit of pre-apocalyptic humor, you know? Angel: But but but you said maybe... Buffy: Yeah, maybe. It's called a polite brush-off. You didn't really think I'd get involved with a guy who sits in the corner all day brooding about his soul and his hair? Been there, done that. I'm not a kid anymore. Maybe you should grow up too. Angel: But but but... I'm the champion! Buffy: Funny, the way I remember it, it was another vampire with a soul who sacrificed himself to save the world. Where is he? Angel: Spike?! You want to see him?! Buffy: Of course not, I'm looking for The Master and I want to ask him out on a date! Of course I'm looking for Spike! Who else? Really, Angel you can be quite stupid at times. Well, most times. Angel: Spike's not here! He never showed up here and he hasn't been hanging around here and he hasn't been driving me up the wall! Really, he isn't here! I'm telling the truth! I am! Would I ever lie to you? (Enter Spike, sauntering over confidently.) Spike: Well, look who's here! If it isn't the Slaaaayer! Buffy: One of the Slayers. Spike: Oh, yeah, the Slayer mass production thing. Assembly line and all that. But there's only one Slayer for me. (Buffy and Spike walk off together, leaving Angel behind, throwing a tantrum.) Spike (whispering): Am I supposed to keep sodding pretending I think you don't love me? Buffy (whispering back): Only as long as Angel's listening. We don't want him to tell certain people out there that I love you. Top secret. It's all about avoiding World War 3. I mean, apocalypses I'm ok with, but world wars... Spike: Oh, of course! Let's go someplace depresso-hair won't find us. (Exit Buffy and Spike, arm in arm.) Buffy finds out about Angel having sex with Eve on ATS: Buffy: You were having sex with somebody called Eve? Who did you think you were? Adam? Angel: Adam? As in the biblical guy? Buffy: (sarcastically) No, as in the demon cyborg under Sunnydale U! Angel: Huh??! Buffy: That was season 4. You weren't there. I mean, except when you were stalking me or beating up my new boyfriend. For my own good, of course. Adam was a bit like you. Big and dead, lots of ego, not a lot of charm. But smarter. Angel: You were going out with him too?! Buffy: Are you crazy!!! Angel: But you were going out with that other robot guy -Wiley or something. Buffy: Riley!! And he wasn't a robot! Angel: Coulda fooled me. Buffy: And he wasn't dead. Adam was dead. Angel: But I'm dead. Buffy: Not enough. Parody set sometime in the future: (Sometime in the future. Buffy, older and wiser, is training a class of apprentice Slayers.) Buffy: "Ok, you get your stake..." Apprentice: "Steak?! But I'm a vegetarian!" Buffy: "Stake as in wooden, not meat!" Apprentice: "Oh..." Buffy: (To class) "And you stick it in the vampire's heart." Apprentice: "Where's the heart?" Buffy: (Muttering under her breath) "God, why me?" (The phone rings in the next room.) Buffy: (To apprentice) "Get that, will you?" (Apprentice runs and gets the phone. Buffy continues with the class. A while later, the apprentice returns.) Apprentice: "There's a guy on the phone for you. He says he's a vampire with a soul." Buffy: (Brightening up, excited, enthusiastic) "A vampire with a soul?!" Apprentice: "Yeah. He kept going on about how he's a champion and he helps the helpless." Buffy: "Oh, that jerk! Tell him I'm not here." In memory of Cordelia: Angel: My show got cancelled! Waaaaaaaaaaa! Spike: It's your own bloody fault. Angel: But I'm the Champion! It couldn't be my fault! Spike: Get over yourself, you wanker. The Powers That sodding Be must have been p!ssed about the way way you find it so easy to forget the woman you're supposed to be in love with. Angel: Which one? Spike: That too. Used Titles (Buffy forum): Anti-B/A #1: Because Angel and Buffy moved on. Anti-B/A #2: Because when they kiss we ALL wanna die. Anti-B/A #3: Not a chance, never, no way, not in a million years, and also nu-uh. Anti-B/A #4: Buffy and Angel reunion? That should be boring. Anti-B/A #5: Because the reunion was so funny we laughed all week *points and laughs* Anti-B/A #6: Because even Joss was mocking them. Anti-B/A #7: Because we can't look at cheese the same way again. Anti-B/A #8: Buffy and Angel forever? For their sake I hope not. Anti-B/A #9: ? Anti-B/A #10: ? Anti-B/A #11: Angel: "I don't get you." And we've been saying that how long? Anti-B/A #12: Enoughy with Anuffy! Anti-B/A #13: Because we grew up, and so did they. Anti-B/A #14: Transcendant? More like transparent. Anti-B/A #15: Because it falls under the 8th amendment-no cruel or unusual punishment. Anti-B/A #16: "How's if ever? Does if ever work for you?" Anti-B/A #17: Angel: "That's great. It's nice -- you moved on." Anti-B/A #18: See this number, Angel? *That's* the legal age. Anti-B/A #19: Buffy *WHINE* Angel *BROOD* Anti-B/A #20: ? Anti-B/A #21: ? Anti-B/A #22: "When you kiss me, I wanna die" and that's a good thing, how? Anti-B/A #23: Buffy didn't have time for him even when it was the end of the world. Anti-B/A #24: Angel's kiss was so bad that Buffy ran straight into Spike's arms Anti-B/A #25: They'd be like an arranged marriage.They barely know each other anymore! Anti-B/A #25: Because Angel spent months at the bottom of the ocean and Buffy didn't care! Anti-B/A #26: It's so bad it's funny. rotfl Anti-B/A #27: Boreanaz on Angel's true love: I think that question has really yet to be answered. Anti-B/A #27: Bye Buffy, love you, thanks for the sex! Anti-B/A #28: Buffy was unable to say "I love you" to Angel Anti-B/A #29: Five conversations in five years. Now that's communication. Anti-B/A #30: Highlights of this ship...when he broke up with her and when she killed him. Anti-B/A #31: Boreanaz: I'm not in favor of reunions b/c there is no reason to go back Anti-B/A #32: She didn't know or trust him (Sanctuary) and she still doesn't (Damage) Anti-B/A #33: As Joss said, Buffy sent Angel away b/c Spike is the person in her life Anti-B/A #35: Because he could be dust for all she cares Anti-B/A #36: Buffy has Angel breath? Maybe she should get some tictacs Used Titles (Angel forum): Anti-B/A #1: Because I need some water to down all that cheese. Anti-B/A #2: B/A = Boring Angst Anti-B/A #3: Because Buffy has no desire to be with Angel Anti-B/A #3: Joss on Chosen: B/A left their relationship at the graveyard Anti-B/A #4: Forever just got a hell of a lot shorter Anti-B/A #5: Death, tears, and abandonment. Sounds like a healthy relationship to me. Anti-B/A #5: Angel only has eyes for Buffy...oh and Cordy, Darla, Gwen, Eve, Nina... Title Suggestions: Anti B/A #*: Buffy isn't they most beautiful woman he's ever seen, Cordy is. Anti-B/A #*: Because we're sick and tired of the constant whining. Anti-B/A #*: Their relationship was nothing but fantasy. Anti-B/A #*: Because their 'love' couldn't transcend their need for sex. Anti-B/A #*: Because they always look constipated when they're together. Anti-B/A #*: We think IWRY is forgettable and so does Angel! (Not Fade Away) Anti-B/A #*: Because Angel doesn't even know the color of Buffy's eyes Anti-B/A #*: David Boreanaz on B/A: There's no reason to go back. Anti-B/A #*: If Angel loves Buffy, why was he pining for CORDY for two seasons? Anti-B/A #*: Because B/A is so sacred Joss replaced Sarah with a stunt double for the kiss! Anti-B/A #*: Because she doesn't want to be with him and is not sure she ever will Anti-B/A #*: She smiled more at Wood than at Angel who she hadn't seen in almost 2 yrs Anti-B/A #*: B/A never fought-shagged-hated and neither did they stay in love. Anti-B/A #*: Because love can fade and B/A are proof of that. Anti-B/A #*: Because he laughed at her pain. How exactly is that love? Anti-B/A #*: B/c she can't be bothered to write a letter or make a brief phone call to him ever Anti-B/A #*: Angel is only truly happy when Buffy is giving him orgasms! Anti-B/A #*: Because she'd rather be with the Immortal. The *Immortal*! Anti-B/A #*: B/c fixing a pipe was more important than seeing him post-resurrection Anti-B/A #*: Because the Immortal's enjoying cookie dough right now, not Angel Anti-B/A #*: A senior citizen falling in love with a 15 yo is romantic? Try creepy Anti-B/A #*: When fire's raining down on Angel's head, Buffy's thinking of Spike Anti-B/A #*: When he was missing for 3 months she didn't have a care in the world Anti-B/A #*: Because nothing says love like apathy Anti-B/A #*: Angel is only truly happy when Buffy is giving him orgasms! Anti B/A Quotes --DB: Buffy's pretty much out of the picture. They've played their storyline and that's just the past. Buffy's just the past. --Inteviewer: I'm a Buffy/Angel fan. Sorry. DB: You're forgiven. No, I'm just saying that the two shows are on different networks and it's not gonna happen. There's no more story there for those two. Buffy isn't Angel's priority anymore. In season one and two of our show, she was always in the back of his mind, well, now it's all about the baby and Buffy is just, well, she's just a person he used to know. Inteviewer: Awww, come on! The story there was so incredible. DB: And like every good story, it came to an end. And then started over. On. Different. Networks. (again with the emphasis) Inteviewer: Is Angel going to hook up with Cordy? DB: Well, I'm all for it. I don't know what the writers have planned in that regard, but I'm a fan of Charisma's work and I'd love for our characters to be romantically involved. Cordy is really what Angel needs, I believe. --Greenwalt said that he had reservations about pairing Angel with someone other than Buffy but that Whedon wanted to go ahead with Angel and Cordelia. "He was, like, 'People move on. You have to move forward all the time,' " Greenwalt said. "What I do like about the show is that it does keep changing and we are full of surprises. And people do come and go as in real life. . . . People fall in love and people move forward. --The star and the executive producer of "Angel" have three words for the fans of the show who are up in arms over the budding romance between Angel (David Boreanaz) and Cordelia (Charisma Carpenter). Get over it. Accept the fact that Angel and Buffy (Sarah Michelle Gellar) are not going to get back together. Not only have the characters moved on, but the shows are on different networks now. "If you actually saw these two characters get back together, it would be so different . . . it probably wouldn't even work," Boreanaz said. "It would be like getting together with your first wife," added executive producer David Greenwalt. "It would be a nightmare." On the other hand, there definitely is something going on between Angel and Cordelia. "There's definitely love a-bloomin' there. She is not yet aware of her feelings toward Angel, but Angel has become somewhat painfully aware that he has feelings toward her." Jeff Bell: My thoughts are that Angel is an adult. I think he and Buffy have come to a place, and you got a sense of this near the end of Buffy, where they were thinking, "We love each other, but the way things are now it ain't gonna work out. We're adults, so let's move ahead with our lives." Angel magazine --From a David Boreanaz interview at Ninemsn.com.au (March 14, 2004) -I?m not generally in favour of ?reunions? because there is no reason to go back. It took a lot to get me to do Buffy. At one point I really didn?t want to do it, but as a favour to Sarah I did it. --Dreamwatch Magazine #118, interview with David Boreanaz: "I only want to go forward in my life rather than backwards. Reunions don?t sit comfortably with me and it took a lot to get me to do Buffy." Highlights of the B/A relationship 1. When he broke up with her 2. When she sent him to hell 3. When he drained her almost to death 4. When she shot him 5. When they punched each other in the face over Faith TEN REASONS WHY B/A SUCK 1) Because he's an old man who has stalked Buffy since she was only 15 years old. 300 year old Angel "falling in love" with Buffy while he watched from a darkened van as the young girl sucked on a lollilop, was not romantic but disturbing! 2) Because he acts like her father sometimes. He even arranged to have her memory wiped, without thinking to ask her permission, for "her own good." Romantic partners should respect each other to make their own decisions. 3) Because Angel's happiest moment was banging Buffy. Spike's happiest moment was simply holding her. 4) Because when they had a major disagreement, they couldn't hold back from punching each other in the face, even though they were both soulled and sane (Sanctuary) 5) Because they make promises/vows to each other they can't keep: - "Forever" -> "If ever" after only a couple of years - Angel vowed in Amends he'd lay down his life for hers. He got his chance in Graduation Day and what did he do? He chose to risk her life to save his own ass. 6) Because they're dishonest with each other: - Angel pretended he gave up his humanity for Buffy's sake, that keeping her safe was of utmost importance to him. Riiiiighht. If her life was so important to him, he wouldn't always be busy when she's facing an Apocalypse. We don't buy that Buffy can "take care of herself" when it's the End of the World but she can't protect herself against Monster of the Week! 7) Because they're not each other's first choice: - Angel finally gave her the chance to be with him in Chosen and she passed it up! She told him "years, if ever" and went back to explore her relationship with Spike. - Then after she lost Spike, she passed Angel over AGAIN, this time for the Immortal. 8) Because Buffy doesn't love Angel anymore - Love starts with caring and Buffy has shown consistently over the last couple of years that she doesn't care whether Angel is dead or alive: Because she doesn't bother to keep in touch with him, not even by letter or phone once in a while. Because if the reason they don't keep in touch is because it's too painful to be reminded they can't be together, how careless and selfish is that! The pain of being reminded is more important than the possibility of saving the other's life? They both know they're not invincible and could need each other's help one day. Because she didn't notice when he went missing for THREE MONTHS... when she wasn't even preoccupied with anything. She was just enjoying her summer and training Dawn. Because when Angel was rotting at the bottom of the ocean, Buffy was concerning herself over Spike's injuries (Lessons) Because when fire rained down on L.A. which is NEAR-BY so Buffy must have known, she didn't bat an eyelash of concern. Because when the First came back in season 7 (the same villain that nearly caused Angel to commit suicide in season 3), it never occurred to Buffy to warn or worry about Angel. - Because if she loved him, she would have shown a bit of joy/excitement when he finally decided they should be together (Chosen). Instead she looked evasive and uncomfortable. 9) Because Angel doesn't love Buffy anymore: - He's always too busy when she's facing an apocalypse. - The one time he came to help, it was ONLY after he dealt with his own problems and had nothing else to do. - Because he dreamed of making love to CORDY, causing him to experience perfect happiness and lose his soul. Buffy was just the afterthought, a painful memory of the last time he lost his soul. 10) Because not being able to have sex and kids shouldn't have doomed their relationship. - Angel should have sought a permanent soul. Spike fought for his, Angel made no effort. - In real life, there are couples who can't have sex for whatever reason (one partner has a disability, HIV etc..) and they stay together, sacrificing sex and natural kids. Why couldn't B/A, if they had a 'transcendent love' make such a sacrifice? by Tarhiliel:  ]   "I'll never leave. Not even if you kill me." But in reality he did. by Devoted You know the only thing that I saw that was the same and that was consistant in reguards to Bangel during Chosen was that in the end Angel left. Either Angel or Buffy always walk away from one another. I guess thats the criteria for being forever, true love, and soulmates: Abandonment! How many times does this make it? 1. Graduation pt 2.(Angel breaks up with Buffy and leaves town for her own good.) 2. Pangs (he secretly checked up on Buffy and then left) 3. I Will Remember You (Not only did he make the decision to not be with her, he erased Buffy's memory of that day) 4. Santuary (he told Buffy to leave his town and that she doesn't know him anymore) 5. Yoko Factor (He comes and apologizes, she says she loves Riley now, and then he leaves) 6.Forever (Stops by to console her over Joyce's death then leaves... FYI: I heard this was the lowest rated episode during season five..and they had promoted Bangel big time) 7. Sometime after Flooded they meet for the first time after Buffy has been ressurected (Off screen meeting, they both start new relationships very shortly afterward) 8. End of Days/Chosen (Buffy tells him to leave because she already has a champion. FYI: These were among the most hyped episodes ever. Many magazines, including TV Guide, featured Buffy on their cover and the promotion was almost exclusively B/A focused; the grand reunion of the star-crossed lovers! The result? Ratings dipped for the first episode of the two-part finale, End of Days, and Chosen's ratings were lower than episodes earlier in season 7. What happened to all the people who wanted to see Buffy & Angel reunited? ) Did I miss anything? Just for the record, Angel and Buffy have known each other for 7 years. During the last two years they have had almost no contact. How many times have they left each other? 8 times in 7 years... Do the math! by Eternal Love Spike - earned his soul for Buffy (Grave) - gave his undead life for her (Chosen) - the happiest moment in his life was just holding Buffy in his arms (Touched) - cried more than anyone when Buffy died (The Gift) - loves her with and without his soul - has never left her Angel - didn't want a soul - has never given up his life for her - will risk Buffy's life for his own (Graduation Day) - happiest moment with Buffy was when she was giving him orgasms - never cried over Buffy, even when she died - felt guilty that he wasn't very broken up about her death - doesn't love Buffy without his soul - has left her numerous times __________________ Free Tibet. And Iran. And Zimbabwe. | |||
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| Woot! New thread. We'll save the only really happy with orgasms for next time. Stupid 'all about sex' relationship.  And have a good time Cloudburst2000! | |||
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| I figured I'd go with Spikes Angel's title, I just reworded it. I'm putting he orgasm one in the list of future titles. Quote:
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| Yay, new thread! And gotta say I love the title  Cloudburst, have fun in Chicago - that's my hometown! And I like Oasis too. Anyway . . . Bangel=  __________________ Spuffy, Ross/Rachel, Seth/Summer, Brenda/Dylan  "You risked everything to be a better man, and you can be. You are. You may not see it, but I do. I believe in you Spike." "I've seen the best and the worst of you and I understand exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one Buffy." | |||
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| Extreme Fan  Joined: Apr 2005
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| arrgh! your going to see Oasis! Im soo Jealous! I LOVE oasis! I love this icon: Lol! Anyways Back to Bangel and the badness of it, I hate How Angel waited Till Buffy fell for him and then told her he was a vampire.. or well she saw he was a vampire so she wouldent stake him, It was soo creepy though, It was like he planned it all, Giveing her Jewellery, acting all mysterious, and Then BANG oh hes a vampire  Lmao, Sorry But i Just need to say this, everyone goes on about How Spike is apparently a rapist and they say "how could she forgive him! you cant forgive him" LMAO what hypocrites, Spike Attempted to But Angel succeeded, Angel was the one that actually raped her! He mind raped her and Dont even get me started on the statutory rape, He is the real rapist, People dont realise that theres more than one sort of rape, and Angel has raped her two times. __________________ Nida Proud B/Ser LJ/icon by Icon Credit | |||
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| Dedicated Fan Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 763
| That's what's even more so skeezy about it. He *should* have told her from the beginning, but he didn't. The whole thing smacks of manipulation and honestly, this is when I first started disliking the character. How much better off would Buffy have been if he would've just told her? She almost certainly would've never gotten involved and you can kiss 3 years of emotional trauma and the repurrcussions afterward goodbye. Spike's guilty of everything he ever did soulless, brainwashed, not in the room, whatever. According to them, he's accountable, but Angel isn't because he's a flawless woobie, who just happens to be a self-involved pig. | |||
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| Extreme Fan Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,043
| Yeh Exactly its like hes been fake from the start, He knows that Girls like mysterious men, and he went in there and said 2 words to her and gave her his coat acting like he was a bloody teenager when hes old enough to be her fathers ancestor! hes always lieing! and hes always makeing himself seem like the champion when he isnt, He should of been truthfull from the start, I understand why Buffy was soo pissed off at him, Hes been lieing to her from the start, Bless her, She was so young and naive back then, She didnt even know how much he would hurt her in the future, and how he would ruin her life, Angel is so good at lieing, He's been feeding her lies all the time, About drusilla, about being a vampire, Its like he was just lieing to her to get into her pants, Good relationships arent based on lies!, I could not be with someone like that, I would want my other half to be honest. The thing is when Angel raped Buffy he had a soul, when he broke her heart he had a soul, when he lied to her about being a vampire he had a soul, what do they say about that? Sometimes you cant even tell if he has a soul or not, He has a soul but he acts like hes souless, they forgive Angel for everything he did to buffy and everything he did when souless, But they dont forgive Spike for what he did when he was souless? They say that Souless Spike and Souled Spike is the same person, But Souled Angel and Souless Angel are two diffrent people? there two diffrent charecters not two diffrent types of vampire, People Like that confuse me  Bangel doesent do anything for me, I found it boring from the start, I know people like it, But I cant understand how they can. __________________ Nida Proud B/Ser LJ/icon by Icon Credit | |||
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| Extreme Fan Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,476
| And I really hate how some people think IWYR was sooo romantic Bunch of sappy crap is all it was. Angel took Buffy's decision away from her and had her memory of the day erased. Not to mention he claimed that he had to be a vampire again so he could "keep Buffy safe" or whatever. Gee, Angel, what happened to "keeping her safe" when you were trying to lose your soul again? Or how about when buffy died in season 5 because you weren't there to help her? I mean, really?This is just another reason I hate Bangel. honestly if it had actually ended after season 2 with Angel dying, I might have at least been able to tolerate it. But it's like it kept getting shoved in our faces repeatedly in season 3 and then all those lame reunions (in which all they did was either make out or fight with each other, and that's about it) So yeah Bangel sucks. And there's my rant for the day , lol __________________ Spuffy, Ross/Rachel, Seth/Summer, Brenda/Dylan "You risked everything to be a better man, and you can be. You are. You may not see it, but I do. I believe in you Spike." "I've seen the best and the worst of you and I understand exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one Buffy." | |||
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| Absolute Fan Joined: Jun 2003
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| Dedicated Fan Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 763
| "Protect Buffy." That's laughable. He consistently put her in danger with the cryptic messages and big fat *not* doing anything when she wen to find the Master. And the manipulation, the mind-raping, and so forth. I think she needed protection from *him*. | |||
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| Extreme Fan Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,043
| Protect Buffy? If he wanted to protect Buffy he wouldent of abandoned her, I hate how he made all the decisions for her, Shes stronger then him, she doesent need protecting, he needed to be a vampire to keep buffy safe? as soon as he found out about the shanshu he was jumping for joy, so he forgot buffy then? She needs protection from him, You dont know when hes souless and when hes not half of the time. __________________ Nida Proud B/Ser LJ/icon by Icon Credit | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest   | I think it's really interesting to look at Angel's relatonship with Buffy and then compare it to his relationship with Cordy. Why didn't Angel ever treat Cordy like a child and make all the decisions? __________________ | |||
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| Extreme Fan Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,043
| Yeh, He treated Cordy better than he treated Buffy, Thats probebly why I like Angel/Cordy and I hate Angel/Buffy, Angel didnt treat Cordy like he was better than her, Cordy could see the real him, Buffy? well Buffy looked at him with rose coloured glasses and thought he was the good guy and that she was to blame for everything he did to her. __________________ Nida Proud B/Ser LJ/icon by Icon Credit | |||
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| Passionate Fan  Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,101
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Well Angel and Cordy had three things Buffy and Angel did not: Trust, Communication, and a certain amount of maturity. Cordy called Angel on his crap.. she set him back on his path. She encouraged him and trusted him. Angel trusted and respected Cordelia.. her opinion mattered to him. He looked to her for guidence and support. Rather they were technically a couple or not, they had more of a connection,.... more of a relationship then Angel and Buffy ever dreamed of having. __________________ Joss Whedon on the last Spuffy scene in Chosen: What I basically told them was play the romance, be proud of him, love him when you say you love him.. Buffy loves Spike  | |||
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