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Old 11-12-2018, 05:25 PM
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Yeah, Connor was the real victim of what Holtz did - ironic there, because Holtz grew to love him, but I don't think he ever really realized what he had done to him

True, s5 did give us a bit of a glimpse of what it could have been like
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:44 PM
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^ Okay, so no need for Buffy to really be mentioned at this point.
I felt sad that Angel couldn't really get the chance to raise Connor on his own... and have all those important moment with him growing up.
But when someone starts telling me that Angel loves his kid more than a woman he would do anything for, that's where I know something is wrong.

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I don't know either, she had nothing to do with those scenes in the finale!
Well considering she couldn't make it to do You're Welcome, you would think SMG would've been busy at the time. Angel had selfless love for the both of them.
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:52 PM
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^ Well because Angel does love his kid more than any woman he's been with. That person is just pointing facts.
Angel loved Buffy but he was able to MOVE ON, after she died... and that's why he was guilty and it was Cordy to tell Angel that it's okay to still be happy and live and move on and the writers showed the difference of how it was when he left in the "Graduation" episode. When he left Buffy that time, he was closed off from everyone, depressed and mopey... but during his 3 years with his friends, Cordy, Gunn and Wes (and Doyle), he learned how to have different relationship and grow out of a character...

It was not just only about Buffy, his world did not revolve around Buffy anymore.

Even in season 2, it was ALL ABOUT DARLA!
We got to get more depth into his relationship with her and he was torn apart when she died.


But season 3, Angel was shocked because Buffy death didn't kill him inside, he was shocked that he could move on... he felt he was betraying her by doing that.

The meaning of 3x01 was to show that he had GROWN outside of Buffy, and he built a life outside of her.

With Connor, that was the greatest love of his life. Connor is who he never thought he'd have. The love for Connor was something unlike he never had and felt before so it's no comparison.

People can keep trying to be caught up in the season 1-3 BTVS past all the want but the truth is that Connor was Angel's greatest love.


And as I mentioned, it's not really the time to be debating a Buffy vs Connor discussion.... It's just irrelevant because no one can change each other's opinion about it and everyone will just see what they want to see I guess.

For me, I believe it's without question Connor who he loved more than ANYTHING OR ANYONE!
And you believe it's equal... so it is what it is. lol
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:59 PM
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Cangel goes against what the show stands for. It's a rip-off of the Bangel storyline, is stupid, doesn't make sense, and in truth, is out of character. You are wrong, it's more that the writers were being pressured by the network to have Angel move on even it doesn't make any sense whatsoever because the reason why Angel left Buffy in the first place because Angel couldn't be in a relationship and can't risk loosing his soul. From then on, it was his mission and purpose, not hook up with women and make his departure from Sunnydale invalid. Season 3 of Angel lacks consistency in that area considering what has been said in the regarding Angel being with Buffy and his gypsy curse. If you say that it was right of the writers to even do that, then it's wrong. Cordelia herself was against Angel loosing his soul and starting up with a relationship considering what happened in Buffy Season 2. Did you even watch those seasons?

Both situations between Bangel&Angel/Connor are pretty much the same. It's a fact.

If anyone says that Buffy never made Angel smile or happy is wrong.

If you love your kid more than the love of your life, then there's something wrong with the picture.

Also I posted a gifset so we can move on from this conversation.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:51 AM
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I'd say that the vast majority of people do love their children more than their partners. Until this conversation, I never knew that anyone could think that was wrong or even unusual. Your children come first, they're your priority, you love them unconditionally - it's unlike the love you can feel for anyone else.

Obviously, I can't speak for everyone & I'm not trying to, but I wish you'd respect my opinion.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:32 PM
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WTF??? There is something wrong with loving the child you brought in this world over a person you loved??? Is that serious.
That's just ridiculous.

I never thought I'd hear someone saying loving your child more than a person you loved is wrong... in what universe???

Makes no sense.
One of the craziest nonsensical stuff I ever saw....

I guess you didn't watch season 1-5 of Angel than when Angel moved on and grew up pass his love for Buffy.
We will just pretend for the whole series that Angel was crying over Buffy.


Just stop it.


And anyway as I mentioned, this is the Angel and Connor appreciation thread, talking about ships here, for what????? WHY ARE WE even talking about Bufffy/Angel?? or even Cordy/Angel? Who cares.


This is about Angel and Connor. And if we can't discuss them without Buffy getting mentioned than that's an issue. Buffy and Angel have a thread on the forum where you can happily express your love for them.

Ridiculous that we have to defend Angel love for Connor over Buffy here, I can't.

SMH.
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Old 11-18-2018, 07:13 PM
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Thanks for that, Tia. I feel the same way

Anyway, let's get some more positivity back in here




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That was a cute scene with the teddy bear and angel
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:39 AM
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I wonder if he still has that bear
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:32 AM
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I loved the Angel and baby!Connor scenes.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:42 AM
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Angel´s got a point.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:23 PM
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^ He does even though that scene was funny. lol
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:06 PM
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Some rare banter between them, gotta love that!
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