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And also boo, I'm pretty sure I tweeted my pic once Btw, I've been meaning to ask, are you on Facebook? PM me, I want us to be proper friends (I don't post much, but just in case) Quote:
(* an actual word she used describing the effect this dark version of a resolution to the darkness/light conflict have on her) Also, even if we forget about Flint's fate, what about Silver? I might not be his biggest fan, but are we to believe that he's OK with killing his best friend? (while he wasn't even able to kill Billy, who he was friends with for what? 3 minutes?). Even if they gonna defend his decision that he's just a flawed character in a difficult situation (Flint killed Gates after all), he ***ing lied to Madi about it! Pretending that all he cares about is that she's alive, no matter what she might think of him. Quote:
But then again, I don't interview the writer, pretending to speak for the fandom telling him how much the Freedom in the Dark speech and the ending in general meant to people and how much tweets and emails they'd got about it, and also saying multiple times on twitter how they "love all of the variations of the beautiful ending" and " beautiful levels of conversation" and then... totally dismissing the opportunity to actually discuss different versions of the ending. They never even mentioned Thomas in their podcasts after the finale (they've had S4 wrap, the series round table with a few other people who reviewed the show, and now JS interview), not once! Completely ignoring what it means for Flint to be reunited with him after he had waged a ***king war in his name! As if it somehow diminishes all the tragedies that's happened over the past ten years, as if it's all sunshine and rainbows from now on. They made a good point that Silver was lying to himself if he truly believed that all the horrors of Flint's life could be *unmade* by the simple act of reuniting with Thomas, human psychology doesn't work like that. But that is not the proof that he lied about the whole situation Btw, there's a great post about all the foreshadowing of Flint's end: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackSails/...dowing_flints/ Quote:
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You have this masculine protagonist who kills a dude with his bare hands, who's determined to reach his goal no matter what, but who feels so deeply, who rages and who weeps, and who can be vulnerable. And he's a total softy around Thomas. I feel that in their dynamic Thomas is the one who leads and Flint follows (in every sense possible). It's even obvious in their finale scene, it's funny how pre-S4 idea of alive Thomas was that he would be the one who needs support, pale and thin and weak, when in reality it's Flint who's clinging to him all crushed and Thomas does the comforting. That's what homophobes hate/fear, right? That a masculine guy can be treated *like a woman*. Quote:
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I guess I probably shouldn't have said I hate-watched it, I tend to exaggerate when I'm bitter. I obviously enjoyed most of the storylines. But then some things are really bugging me, for example can we please stop having bi/pan characters say that they "fall in love with the person, not their genitals". Again, I understand the meaning behind it (I don't distinguish. Italian, Mexican, Thai, why does one choose one food over the other? ), but the phrasing only makes it look like straight and gay people are not open-minded enough (although I'd say it's true about some people who identify as straight ), and it perpetuates this idea that same sex relationships are all about sex. (And I'm perfectly aware that equal amount of problematic ™ things is said by the other party, and that too should stop) Quote:
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But I can see both points, really, as I have never rolled my eyes harder than when I saw someone asking if it'd be enough to understand the dynamic between Root and Shaw if they watched a compilation of only their scenes together or something. No, honey, it most definitely would not. You don't want to watch a show with great arcs, themes and characters, your choice (it's more than 100 eps after all), but you won't be able to understand their relationship in all its glory and what it means for both of them if you don't know who they are and where they're coming from and don't see their relationship with other characters and people in general. Or Homeland. I hope I won't spoil too much (I still haven't seen the last 2 eps myself), but they killed off one of the characters in the finale, and fans started the "campaign" on twitter #No*SaidCharacter*#NoHomeland. Like, really? I totally get the frustration with the endless misery, but this? Can't relate, sorry. I have another question. If I decide to watch Doctor Who, but I don't want to watch all seasons, which one should I start with? __________________
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And there is pretty much no couples on Grey's. Derek is dead, Callie left, etc. Speaking about Grey's, ew, that finale was something. Another CGI scene at the end with a lot of helicopters. |
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Liked the finale, thought it didn't feel like a season finale. Had more of a mid season finale vibe. There were some inconsistencies, but overall it was a strong episode. Loved Meredith. She was so sweet to Nathan. I don't like that they are apparantly hooking up Jackson and Maggie. Saw it coming episodes ago, but still.
And agreed about the couples. There are barely any longtime couples left. Good thing the show has so many characters. Most characters are likeable and yet flawed, so relatable. That's the reason why the show is still going strong. Besides...you cannot compare a series with 20 episodes to a show that's reaching 300 episodes next season Agreed about the last scene. That was super obvious. But again, I don't mind really. Maybe we should talk about the actual series instead of just talking about the CGI? Would make it more fun for me to post in this thread, you know? __________________
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Well, bad CGI is the only interesting thing about show, tbh.
Stephanie didn't die despite being in the middle of explosion that ruined half hospital. Ben becoming a firefighter... Eh. |
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And I've tried Episodes. He basically plays himself in one of those comedies that HBO will never cancel because it costs nothing Same for Schwimmer. Before his supporting role in the OJ show, he's been doing third tier guest stars... and a voice in all the Madagascar movies Not exactly A-lister material. Quote:
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And ofc for men like Hamilton and Flint, that would be the latter. Quote:
And I love the way Black Sails has integrated fictional characters so flawlessly into actual piracy history that even though you know who's real and who's not, you still have to think about it while watching the show because Flint feels more real than any of the real characters. I find that Hamilton and Flint have a lot in common. Especially in what appears to be their main motivation: to shape their world in a way that makes it better and freer than the one they are coming from. They seem determined to leave a legacy of freedom behind them, at all cost. And it's quite possibly because of the losses they suffered. Hamilton with his mother and Flint with Thomas. There is a lot to say about the role of women in both Hamilton and Black Sails too and in both stories that could have been total sausage fests Quote:
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And yeah it is a pretty big deal. Representation has grown, and it's a good thing. Still have a problem with someone asking if a show is "lesbian enough" to deserve checking out though because a) I still don't know what "lesbian enough" means, and b) if the lead is a lesbian and you're looking for characters you can relate to, it should be enough already. Quote:
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I actually started watching in the middle and then backtracked so I'd recommend starting with season 5 episode 1 The Eleventh Hour, like I did There is a complex reasoning for this and it's not because I don't like David Tennant but long story short: the show kinda gets a reboot at this point and you won't get as lost as you would trying any other season before that. Give it a couple of episodes and see how you like it. If you keep watching, you'll need to go back at some point to catch River Song's first episodes aka Silence in the Library but you can do that at any time since the episode takes place in her future anyway (it's a time travel thing and I don't want to spoil you ) Why the decision to start now? I should really stop and go to bed now __________________
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And I must have missed that Ben is a firefighter now. He just showed them where he last saw Stephanie. Then again, with the firefighter spin-off coming it could just be that they're bringing Ben to that show, so perhaps you're right. But I didn't get the impression from just the last episode. Lol @Carla, that Stephanie & Marvel joke too bad they won't have the chance, since the actress left the show in the season finale Jos and I are already on S4 of Lost. Forgot how much I enjoy the show. Saw ''the constant'' yesterday, one of their best episodes ever imo. __________________
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Ben will obviously become a firefighter cuz they need someone from the main show to connect it with spinoff.
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And, as Gelfling already said, if you don't have money, just don't show it. Owen could just met his sister in hospital, what was the point of this cheap scene? If it looks so bad now, imagine how badly it will age? No wonder Grey's repeats are flopping. |
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Speaking of which, trailers are out for Star Trek Discovery and everybody seems to be happy with how it looks but since the trailer is probably a collage of all the big budget scenes in the whole season, I think they should hold their enthusiasm BUT STNG, just like the Xfiles and the Twilight Zone, is among one of the most loved and rewatched scifi show and the budget was very low, with almost no SFX or pretty bad ones, and they're very old so I guess when you don't make a big deal out of the effects, and focus on the important things, people tend to be more forgiving in the long run. __________________
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I keep on hearing this every year, about how good CGI is now, but it always age badly. I was recently rewatching 2008 Hulk and it looks awful. Worse than 2003 movie, which I actually liked unlike most people.
Wow, STD (Wow such an afwul abbreviation for a show) is real? Looks okay, but a lot of dislikes for some reason. |
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The heavily hyped return of “Twin Peaks” on Showtime didn’t draw much of an audience Sunday, with scarcely more than half a million people tuning in to the two-hour premiere.
The premiere, which came nearly 26 years after the show last aired on ABC, drew just 506,000 viewers and a 0.2 rating among adults 18-49. It finished well out of the Top 25 original shows on cable for the day. Both its premium cable competitors, “The Leftovers” on HBO (0.3, 770,000) and “American Gods” on Starz (0.3, 631,000) drew somewhat larger audiences — as did the likes of “Keeping Up with the Karadashians” (0.6, 1.33 million) and “Naked and Afraid” (0.6, 1.99 million). Kinda funny. |
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Well, they knew it was going to get a lot of smack. The old guard of trekkies are already ****ing mad about the teenager-oriented movies so they are worried about this one (and even more since Fuller bailed on it). And the "hey look at me, I'm a star trek fan! Captain Kirk is so hot!" millennials who only know the latest movies are just mad that they won't see their hotties in the show so basically everyone is preemptively mad. Personally, I'll check it out but mostly out of curiosity and for some of the cast. Fuller wanted a female captain but ofc CBS wanted a dude and they end up with Jason Isaacs? seriously? They should have stuck with Michelle Yeoh. Oh well. In the meantime, the special effects are worrying me but if the script is good, sure I'll watch. Quote:
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I saw today that Falling Water and the OA were both renewed for a second season, proving that there is still a place for WTF tv shows out there and I wasn't expecting it so for WTF tv Speaking of which, anyone watching or watched Black Mirror? This show is freaking me out! __________________
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Not me Carla. The only thing I'm watching atm is Lost. Started with S5 already. No clue what we're gonna be watching after that. We'll probably continue with McLeod's Daugthers. Or dive ourselves into the Marvel shows. We still have a few episodes of Chicago Fire/PD/Med/Justice to watch tho. We kinda neglected those shows as soon as we got into Lost. I heard Chicago Justice was cancelled. Can't say I'm sad or surprised about it. There was nothing interesting about the characters (maybe 1-2 characters had some story, but that's it) and it just felt off. We enjoy Chicago Med the most.
Summers are a weird thing for me. On the one hand I hate them, cause most of my favorite tv shows are off, but on the other hand it gives me plenty of time to try out new stuff/rewatch stuff/catch up on some shows, which is kinda nice. Plus there are a few nice summer shows out there. Is it GoT time already? Pretty please? __________________
TV shows that I love: Gilmore Girls | Grey's Anatomy | Veronica Mars | Charmed | The Crown | Game of Thrones | Killing Eve | Damages | The Good Wife/The Good Fight | His Dark Materials | Homeland | Brothers & Sisters | The Resident | Everwood | Person of Interest | Fringe | Parenthood | Revenge | Big Little Lies| One Chicago | Everwood | Bones | Big Bang Theory | Marvelous Mrs Maisel | The Good Place | & More.
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I read that the character played by TGW Alum Sonequa Martin-Green is actually still the lead, despite Jason Isaacs character being shoe-horned in so my hope is a bit revived. As for the fuss about ST, well it goes back a long long way and it crosses many tv eras so it's hard to explain out of context Quote:
Also "cult following" is a media trap. They always think that it means millions of people are fans. It doesn't. It means the few thousands of people who are fans, are rabid fans. Nielsen doesn't care about how much people are loving a show, they just want to see how many are watching. Have you watched trailers and spoiler about OB btw? I'm so worried about getting spoiled, I'm staying far away from everything __________________
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