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I'm sad for the Catch, especially because it ended on a cliffhanger (so I hear, haven't seen it yet). It wasn't the best out there, but it was entertaining and it was nice to see Enos in another role. But yeah, I agree that she took the role for her image. Don't think they tanked it on purpose though. From what I hear they never made a chance, because lot of fans were against Scandal the year the Catch debuted, so they kind of boycotted Shonda's new show. Shame.
At the same time ABC renews Once Upon a Time....with 6 original cast members leaving the show I hear that the coming season finale delivers a lot of closure, because they knew who would be back and who wouldn't, but I just wish they would have just cancelled the whole show...especially since the closure is there. But I love the show, so I will keep watching anyway. Saw that explosion on Grey's yeah. CGI wasn't great, but to be fair...it's no GoT, or something. We watch a lot of network shows and nearly 99% of the shows have the same kind of CGI. But you don't have to watch it if you don't like it or are annoyed by it so much imo Can't wait to check out the season finale next week. Will miss it this summer. Summers are hard, nearly all of our favorites are gone Thank god for GoT and 1-2 others. __________________
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It's not only CGI in Grey's... They are walking aroung the same decorations during all episodes, pretending them to be different floors and parts of hospital. It just looks so cheap. And most viewers have love/hate RS with this show, so I'm not alone.
I don't think Scandal sabotage has anything to do with The Catch. The story was just not it and some of actors too. OUAT is renewed because they got rid of expensive actors, but it's a huge mistake. No one will watch it. |
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I've felt kinda low in the recent couple of days, partly because of FD interview with Steinberg. He said sooo many beautiful things about the characters, and re: the ending he has his own settled view of it, but he refuses to impose that on anyone else. And they basically said to him that they appreciated the ambiguity of the ending, but only the dark version makes sense, with that Jack's speech at the end, and has a "cathartic" effect because of the darkness/light theme. How ***ing rude is that?? To say that to THE WRITER OF THE ***ING SHOW?! I take my words back, I don't recommend listening to that podcast. Also, I have an issue with people who pretend to be this open-minded and praise the show for the way it treats its LGB characters like it's a non-issue and how "a viewer could totally forget that aspect of [Flint] so many times because it really didn't matter at all." I mean, it's true that sexuality isn't the only aspect of the characters on the show and they're all portrayed as complex individuals, but to *forget* that Flint is gay, one has to make an effort, and I wonder why one would feel the need to Flint's vendetta against civilization is so personal, and is caused exactly by his sexuality having been used against him. And people who refuse to read Flint from the angle of his sexual identity are missing out on so much depth and meaningfulness. Especially in his Freedom In The Dark speech. Oh, and people who think the story wouldn't change AT ALL if Thomas was a woman. Get out of here. Quote:
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I'm glaid for Jerika Hinton, though. She is so much more than this show can give. Speaking about sense8. It looks like porn, tbh. Like it's LGBT-bait, but that's it. I mean, who doesn't like sex scenes, but it's the only thing I heard about. I once read an interesting comment about TGF. Someome asked "Is it lesbian enough for me to watch?". I don't understand people who watch shows only for sex/one character/their ship/people of color they like. Meh. |
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Regarding Grey's...well, if Shonda wants to write an explosion...she has to show one, I don't see another way around it. Yeah, not write an explosion. But Grey's is known for their absurd disaster episodes, so it would change the DNA of the show and it would cause a lot of fans to drop out. I guess most Grey's fans are like me...they watch it for the (often over the top) story, the characters or the drama/humour and not for the CGI. And again, it's not like it's the only show out there who has cheap CGI. Anyway, we'll be watching the season finale this friday, can't wait to see it. I still love the show and considering the show is heading into its 14th season I'm not the only one thankfully __________________
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And what nuance is gained through this idea that Silver killed Flint in the exploration of the darkness/light theme I. JUST. DON'T. GET. I'll be forever bitter about it, I guess. Oh!! And they interviewed Louise Barnes! (it'll be uploaded later, in a couple of weeks most probably) I can't wait to hear what she has to say about Miranda, or anything really, but imagine my horror at the same time, considering some opinions of one of the podcasters, Liz, about her. Quote:
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Oh, and dudebros are already whining that they want their eyes bleached. And I think that's actually a solution! I've been thinking about it in regards with Max/Anne as well. Some people say their sex scenes are mostly for male titillation, and I don't think I can agree. While they're explicit as it often happens with female sex scenes, for me they never felt forced or fetishizing, you know? IDK, maybe I'm biased, as I really like both characters individually and as a pairing, but if you pay attention ( ) you can actually see how Anne gradually lets her guards down, and it's important for her in order to understand she's not who she thought she was. And Max - damn, she's so protective and gentle with her, since the very beginning when it's not even clear if she genuinely cares for her. And ahhh, same with Thomas. He's so... impossibly tender and gentle, even though he's always very determined to get what he wants. But never aggressive? Yeah, I'm talking about their first kiss here, but the scene is really telling about him as a person. And it's so very important to have a character who don't go "I know what you want better" and just shuts another character's mouth with a kiss for a change. He's waiting for James' response, and well, he does respond. And it's beautiful Quote:
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