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I heard something about Joan and knew about Baby Jane movie, but nothing about her other projects. I did know who Davis is, thanks to Vogue song, though.
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She will probably be fuming about it tbh. I know people like Joan in real life. They trying to hurt other people because of their own problems and if they are rich enough they can pretty much do anything they want. Guess, money truly can't buy you happiness. Kidman is having a good year, she'll have 4 movies in Cannes and considering her role in Aquamen (what does she thinking?) they might as well award her because DC movie will probably ruin her career. Agreee about Dan Stevens. I don't think he is a good actor at all. I also thought that next GOT season is the last. |
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I actually do wonder if it's the actor or the character Probably both, because Thomas is a sweet angel (and their love is most pure and it's the only thing that can save the world
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OK I'll shut up now), and RPJ is a perfect casting choice. Btw, I like this post about Thomas, kinda what I thought about when I saw some people calling him a "bland character". Quote:
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To be fair, I quite like this podcast, and really recommend it, because there're a lot of great insights there, they really understand the show's themes much better than most of the reviewers, and that's what make it worse when they miss the point. Another thing that annoyed me is their interpretation of the iconic straightbaiting scene in S1. Their take on it is that it was a conscious decision on Flint's part not to go 'there' despite his attraction to Eleanor at that moment, as it would complicate things between them. And that is heteronormativity at its finest for you, because they started their podcast after they had watched the first three seasons, so they knew both Flint's backstory and the way their relationship developed over the course of the show. I can understand that you can see the scene this way when you first watch it (although I didn't), because it was deliberately made to look like some typical *sexual tension* scene in order to play with viewers expectations. But upon rewatch? Nah. Full disclosure: I personally read Flint as gay, not bi (and you've probably already guessed as I always call him a gay character just wanted to clarify that I don't use 'gay' as an umbrella term as some people do), even though I understand the concern re: bi erasure, but this is not the case here. Human sexuality is not as cut and dry as some people want it to be, and his relationship with Miranda post-London is about comforting more than anything. I'm head-banging against my desk every time I read that their miserable sex scene is a confirmation of Flint's sexual attraction to women. Like, did you even see his face there? As for their time in London, again, it's not like gay people never have sexual relationships with the people of opposite sex (even when not forced), and societal norms and expectations along with the ability (or lack thereof) to discover oneself should always be kept in mind. It's 1700s we're talking about, people! It's kinda the same with Anne, actually. Her arc in s2 is her realizing she's gay, not bi. Anyway, the creators called them both gay a few times, so it's not even an argument, it's just irritating sometimes to read comments that if a person had previously have relationships with the opposite sex that are meaningful then they're not gay. Way to oversimplify things. Quote:
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Can you believe Flint said this in 2x08?? ‘I always thought this journey would end in battle. A fight to preserve the things we held dear. I understood that. I was ready for that. Now, as it turns out, something else lies at the end of this road. Judgment. Not of Nassau, but of me and the man that I’ve become.’ They knew it all along! I love this comment from tumblr:
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I know I'm the only one watching Doctor Who but DAMN! It's so good to be back! I'm sad that it's probably the last one but I've enjoyed the season premiere (after over a year!) and I needed a show that didn't take itself too seriously so
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Those Cannes movies are mostly hype material though and I suspect Elle Fanning will get the most of the hype (since she's the lead in two of them ) but I'm looking forward to the Gaiman adaptation. I don't know what to make of the one with Alicia Silverstone and Colin Farrell though... Is it a has-been cast revenge? Quote:
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This weekend we binge watched S1 of Thirteen Reasons Why. Only need to watch the last two episodes. Damn, this show is good. It's so emotional, well written and acted. There's buzz about a S2, but depending on where S1 closes off...I'm not sure I'd want one, because nothing can top this season imo.
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God, I hate tumblr, they make me cry and laugh at the same time all the time.
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But seriously, it feels sometimes like people watch some scenes and don't make connection with what happened before or what happens next (and that is what so ****ing shocking in this case with Fathoms Deep, as they're pretty good at connecting the tiniest details). He had an argument with Miranda, after which he's so broken he's willing to drink himself to oblivion, because HE would agree with Miranda that this path [Flint] is on doesn't lead where he thinks it does. And then there's this person who he shares the vision for Nassau, who is saying to him that he's probably the only one who can realize this plan, he almost can't believe what he's hearing. Attraction, seriously, people? Are you mad? It doesn't even have anything to do with his sexuality, can you look at a bigger picture here? And it's the same with Flint/Miranda. You're totally right, it's 100% how I saw it too, an attempt to connect. But for some people it's like: They have sex? That's it, they want each other. And they completely ignore what they're both saying in the next scene. She's so desperate to feel alive again, and he's so desperate to give it to her (out of guilt? in return for her taking care about him? none of these things and all of them?), and they couldn't be farther apart from each other than in this moment, although they love each other deeply. Someone wrote this about them and it's so true: "They share rage that would burn down the world and the calmness to be found in a cup of tea and a book." She made a home for him, and she is his home, and after her death it's as if he's lost his soul. There's nothing left to connect him with this world, his eyes are completely glazy. And I'm making myself cry again, and I'm not joking! I'm ruined over Miranda, too, James. Up until recently I didn't quite understand what ghost Miranda meant when she said "You resented me because we were so close... and I threw it all away. If you join me now, what if I resented you for the same reason?" But rewatching does help When they arrived to Charlestown, he told her that he would "retire to the interior" with her. And she'd already saw the clock and made a connection, but she kept it to herself, knowing what would happen otherwise, until James agreed to stand trial and most likely to be hanged. And I initially thought that what made her finally speak up is that Peter Ashe demanded Flint to sacrifice himself, but now I've realized that it's also because Flint was ready to give up the idea of living peacefully with her. And again I'm like... Why, show, why? Quote:
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Forget to mention that Total eclipse of the heart video is indeed strange.
Just checked black sails ratings and they kinda dropped hard. Is it because of that Gay story yall talking about? I think it was there from the start and I don't think many cis males watched this show to start with. Either way, it was a good show from what I've seen. I heard polarizing reviews about 13 reasons why. People saying that this show is making suicide "cool". I kinda want to watch because of Kate Walsh, but I'm not a fan of school dramas and it looks Shondish. |
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And then BOOM, The Big Reveal happened in 2x05 and everyone was losing their s**t, because how can you do that to their precious alpha male fantasy! And even though Flint's lover was mentioned one way or another throughout the rest of the show, they still pretended they were shocked when his gayness was addressed again in the finale. It's a great show and everybody should watch it. __________________
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Finished The Feud... It could've been so much better.
As I already said, most ot time their Feud came out as childish and pointless and it was like that till the very end. They should've explored the reason why this feud actually started (when Bette was stealing Joan roles because of her youth) and actually it would've been much better if the whole show was about it, but in that case they would've to cast younger actresses that won't guarantees Emmys. Eh. But I'd rather see Jessica winning Emmy than Kidman. |
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After finishing S4 of McLeods Daugthers (32 episodes seasons..) we decided to pause that one for a while. Watched the first two seasons of The Last Ship after that (waiting for S3 to arrive next month, so we can be up to date when S4 starts) and 4-5 days ago we started with Lost S1. Almost done with it. Tried to watch it earlier (together), but the plot felt so slow, so I got bored. Which is weird, because I've already seen the entire series....just watching it now, cause Jos hasn't seen it yet. This time we both love it though. Guess you have to be in the right mind-set!
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They also have a new show called "Dear White People", lol. |
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Even then they were never considered for the same parts because they had very different styles. The only time they both got in the same vicinity for a part was when Davis passed on Mildred Pierce and the part went to Crawford who proceeded to win an Oscar for it, and it was only because Michael Curtiz loved working with Davis and Warner gave it to Crawford to piss off Davis who was getting "too picky" for his taste. Some people say it started with Crawford eclipsing Davis's big breakout movie with the news of her divorce from Fairbanks. Other say it all started with a guy Davis had a crush on and Crawford proceeded to get married to. Whatever got it to a boil, it was never really the problem. What created their enmity was that they were very different sides of the same coin: Hollywood actresses and they had different personalities and a knack for taking shots at others and what kept it fed was that Warner used it to try and control them. Quote:
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