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I'm actually surprised they haven't use Genosha yet. Genosha genocide by Xavier sister (?) is def among most popular X-men stories of 00's. Even though, it was barely mentioned by mutants, let alone other marvel heroes after that. At least, from what I've seen. (rarely read comics, mostly reading news about them)
And when will we get normal Emma Frost? Jean is so 2000 and late. It's kinda sad that while Marvel and Sony used more current stories to adapt, Fox only use old stories. We don't need another Phoenix saga... They actually used astonishing X-men storyline in third movie, but it was just losely based on it. I actually liked Burton's movies. They look very stylish. Batman and Robin and Batman Forever were awful, though. First Spider-Man reboot was actually way worse than first franchise. They only rebooted it cuz they couldn't rewrite Spider-Man 4 and just decided to scrap the whole franchise all together and create a new one. Financially it wasn't needed. Now, with marvel help, I'm sure they'll create a good movie. Started watching Iron Fist and it's actually better than Luke Cage in my opinion. It's not good, but at least it's not pretentious. |
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Secondly, out of 16 million mutants no one could teleport or turn back time or something? It all seemed like Grant Morrison did it just because. I like how they bring it back in Astonishing X-men though, even if it makes Emma a killer... Of 16 million mutants. I love Emma. She is mine favourite X-men. It's sad she is so disrespected in movie universe. When they made her older than comics version it was clear she is not becoming a long time character. Spider-Man 3 received bad reviews and they just started rewriting script for a 4th part again and again. They had Black Cat and Vulture as main villains, but they just decided to cancel it. Imo, it was a wrong decision. IF is kinda better with every episode. I have strange feelings about Finn Jones. I can't understand if he is not acting good or just not trying cuz script is bad. |
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Toby was a total miscast as Spider Man, IMO. But they could go Bond/Batman route and just replace him as another actor. Yeah, Venom storyline was bad... And that Sandman was a total joke. Never heard about that show, but it looks like rating were really stable. |
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Just popping over to say hi and will probably disappear again after this post, so don't mind me.
Carla, I remember you mentioned Black Sails a couple of years back, do you still watch it? I won't spoil S4 anyway, just needed to scream and thought it's the best place for it. I binged 3 seasons last summer and then rewatched it straight away, I don't know what took me so long, but I don't remember last time a show made me feel so ecstatic (Well, Homeland is probably the closest to that up to S4, I mean I still love it, just not hyperventilate all the time over it). But almost nobody watches it, what's up with that? Why is Toby Stephens not drowning in all the awards? The show is so so good upon rewatch! With all the little details you didn't noticed the first time round, and I don't even mean just Flint's backstory but pretty much everything and everyone. It's general consensus that the 1st season is weaker than the rest of the show, but I was still entertained. And I wasn't bothered that much by Max's storyline in S1, probably because it wasn't very explicit and she grows so much from that point on. It's awful of course and brutal, but I believe they did her justice in the later seasons. And there was such a great moment between Anne and Eleanor because of it ("Good evening, ***t" ), I can almost forgive that arc. And talk about the big reveal mid-season 2, that's so groundbreaking but still feels organic, because all the hints are there right from the start and you actually talked with your main actor about it beforehand! Gaaawd, I love Flint so much, and I don't even feel the need to justify all the crazy s**t he does (*cough*Gates*cough*), I just want him to put his ****ing oar to the ground and start a book club or something (and Madi can join, she's already read *spoiler alert* Don Quixote). And Miranda! I wish she was more fleshed out as a character, but even with so little she was given she was such a presence, and I cried so much when we lost her. I also like his dynamic with Eleanor (half partners, half father-daughter like?), he's like the only male figure in her life who was always honest with her and didn't screw her over in any way. And that moment of 'straight-baiting' in S1? It's hilarious when you almost expect them to kiss, and instead Flint goes for her forehead. I loved it! I can't believe it's only 1 episode left, I can't wait but at the same time I'm not ready at all. I need a support group or something. Sorry for my rambling, I need help and I think I'm in a good company here. __________________
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Sorry for double post, but I just watched Black Sails finale and reeeeally need to get this out of my system.
I was preparing myself for misery and crying my eyes out, but I wasn't prepared for such a finale at all! I want to live in it forever. Like they should teach the art of storytelling (about storytellers) in universities using the example of this show. And thank you Black Sails for making history by subverting one of the saddest tropes:
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(Also, this) OK, a few thoughts on the finale. Can I just say that it feels so ***ing good to be right about something for once? (I'm not even going with "I told you so" ) Lol I even got my "waking up from a horrible dream" bit, of sorts. And I've never had a better dinner, considering I didn't have to digest ink. I wanted Flint to be hugged (and kissed
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