Hm... I can't picture Alicia or Will with anyone else but them with each other. So in this regard them being only friends from now on would be a killer. :lol:

I just feel like they were not given a real chance (it ended before it even began) and until that happens I won't be able to stop hoping for them. I just want them to give it a try. Like a real releationship. If it doesn't work out, that's fine, at least they tried. But so far (season 3) presented them like they were truly nothing more than friends with benefits. For some reason that bugs me because first two seasons portrayed totally different picture. At least in my eyes.

I don’t see it this way. It was sad to see that Alicia considered him a distraction and he didn’t fight back, but it is very soon to say that it is a no-return end. Answering Carla's question If Will and Alicia were ever only friends from now on, would that be a total killer for you or would you be fine with it If this “pause” or “break up” helps to develop or deepen their friendship, I welcome it with open arms. In my opinion, as far as they keep themselves upfront with each other, there’s always hope. From what I saw they care for each other, the sex was good, she put their kids first (or whatever she thinks comes first from her wellness) and he accepted that under a professional situation that is far for comfortable. From here they can follow a lot of different paths, I prefer to watch how they evolve.

I believe that was what the writers wanted to show. I mean, what relationship are we talking about? They barely talked and had sex whenever any of them wanted, with no inhibitions, imo. So, I don’t know where are they going, but at least they know from now on that sex was great. Better to stop now, decide what they want, talk and start from there. Time will tell the story.

Agree on many points here.
W/A is not finished. First they are really good friend. And I hope & I'm sure they will stay, and if it deepens more, well then it's more than good!!!

What their short relationship shows to A & W is that sex is great. So, the point now is to deal with the complexity of their current life & to think about whether they want to find the good timing for a relationship: for me, what they have experienced shows that it's worth to fight for this relationship to happen.

dunno how to quote properly so bear with me.

To answer Carla's question - I think we have been a little short changed re the relationship - the friendship aspect is fine if that is it, and i have no problem with the overall great writing on the show. I enjoy the show thoroughly - this just rankles with me. It seems to me that they clipped the a/w relationship into vignettes in order to squish everything else in to the 42/3 minutes - they need a cable show length to start and end a relationship as quickly as that

I just don't really see the 5 series story arc to be honest. The show got big too many players, some not available when they want them due to broadway, and wonder whether they felt that needed to change pace to keep the show moving. In effect for me, it all felt forced.

I am suspicious that the writers reacted to the not overall positive reaction on the forums/reviewers to the relationship - and King at that New York times thing, said he did like reacting to prevailing opinion

I do in part understand what LGC is saying - I just think that the abrupt ending of a/w was just part of plot device to get to the grand jury episode/s - not a reflection of inner turmoil. King has no interest in them sailing off into the sunset (and to be honest neither do I), I was hoping for a little emotional exposition. That would happen in any discourse between 2 people - even the most barren casual sex involves some post coital shared reverie

The clever bit was to portray Alicia as the stereotypical male figure - like a figure in a liz phair song or the sexual predator in songs by peaches, and Will the puppy in love. But i still don't buy it, though it was a fun diversion

any way more coi - I've decided that i was interested in one other tv relationship - good god i feel old I wasn't even a teenager - moonlighting - a show ruined by a poorly written relationship denouement, and collapse. Maybe this colours my view

I'm not worried about what King said about Will/Alicia. It seems very reasonable from my point of view. There is no need to rush this. At all. This show will probably go on for another 2-3 seasons. I'd like to see them deal with the aftermath of being sexually involved. I'd like to see them deepen their relationship, mostly in non-physical areas. I know Will is ready to do this, absolutely invest himself and make this work. But Alicia isn't. She needs time and to learn to be herself again without depending on the man in her life. Also Will is still her boss. Should they decide to give it another go - which I am sure they will, they should either be partners or at different firms. Can you imagine them being together and fighting in court on opposite sides? Oi, the sexual tension that must bring. King said so himself, there sex was just too good. :D

Would I be okay with Will and Alicia only remaining friends? I've been okay with it for the last 2 1/2 seasons, I think I could deal with it. But and that's a big, fat, objecting but, only if Alicia won't go back to Peter in the end. What kind of statement would that be? It's okay to be with the man who screwed hookers, slept with your best friend, tried to ruin the career of one of your closest friend and didn't care to humiliate you in public? I don't think so.

From your lips to God's ears. :D

Oh, I love how you think. :lol:

Amen. :)

It would be fine for me at least for the moment.

As far as I'm concerned the relationship we've seen this season didn't really do anything for me. They may have had good sex as King said (which we didn't get to see!!) but not much time talking.

So yes if we get to see them actually having conversations, working and generally interacting together I'll be quite happy for them to be good friends but I'll keep hoping for more!

I get the secrecy. With Alicia still being married to Peter and their relationship at work, boss-employee, it just didn't seem right to go public with whatever they had at the moment. I'm not holding my breath for a speedy reunion but I do think that time will bring us something good.

Amen too here :lmao:

But as you said in your post, this show hopefully will last a few more seasons, and therefore I don't see the point of not going down further the road about A/W relationship.
So I do think that at some point, we will have more of them. Currently, there's too much on their respective plates to get together. And really, the writing is good and I'm enjoying the ride.

:shrug: It's just how I feel. I don't want to offend any P/A shippers but I just don't want to see her go down that road again.

I love those days, you know, when you listen to music and it's all there; everything:

Serena Ryder - All for Love
I always thought
That we'd be more than friends
I always thought
That we were different

Serena Ryder - This Song is About You
I love when your smile makes me stop
And rest for a while to see what I've got
I love to stare at your elastic face
How it stretches around your words
And leaves so much space
For my mind to wander
I dreamt of you again
I've been waiting, waiting, waiting for you
I've been patient, patient, patient
what else am I supposed to do?

Schuyler Fisk - It's not her
I know your birthday
And I know your name
I know your password
And your favorite thing
I know what you're thinking
Almost all the time
I know what you're missing
And who you should be kissing
And it's not her /(him)

Uh, if the writers considered each fan opinion they would go crazy. I believe that they write a story, then amazing actors tell it and you buy it or not. Well, this is the simplest way to see it, but this is my way. I must confess it is not my field and maybe there are others here with some expertise :shrug:

The break up was emotional to me. I never expected a Latin American romantic novel for them. I didn’t see them enjoying the moment, Alicia in tears is something that we do not see in every episode, it must have been important to her.

:lol: I think Alicia would not agree with your statement here! She seemed pretty lost in limbo after having sex in 3.07, I don’t think she could elaborate a coherent sentence and even less, have a deep post-coital conversation (dirty minds can run free here)

Walking into the sunset is more like an idealistic thought. I can’t go that far, I prefer to watch their dynamics step by step.

You know what? I believe this will happen sooner or later and it would be great to see how Alicia interacts, not only with Will, but also the rest of L&G.

I can’t imagine in what Universe she could end up with Peter again :shrug:

I agree! We need to gush about A/W :lol:

I believe their story is not even close to have ended, and as Kerstin and Emma said, we have at least two more seasons to see how it goes.

I'm so mad at R.King right now! He should refrain from giving interviews, I'm always depressed after reading what he says about W/A. How could he reduce their beautiful story to a "friends-with-benefits" kind of relationship. I know these are Ausiello's words (don't even get me started on that one ...), but R. King inferred as much. Alicia might have been happy with the situation as it was because she's in denial, but what about Will's feelings? We all agree it was not just "raw animalistic sex" for him. I have the impression his emotions are not taken into consideration by the writers, that all that matters is how Alicia feels and reacts. I get it that the whole plot is meant to revolve around her character, but it is so unfair vis-à-vis Will!

I'm actually oddly calm. I didn't think they'd get together again and he is kind of right that they were only ever friends with benefits. Everytime Will tried to talk about them, hinting at something more substentual and commited, Alicia refused. That doesn't mean it won't happen but that she'll need more time. I can relate to not wanting to job from one relationship to another, especially with Will who is obviously very important to her.

We'll have to be patient but the time will come when they'll try again and I'm sure we'll be okay until then with their friendship getting stronger.

It has been largely said that A/W friendship will deepen. I was thinking about the reasons for this to happen: Could it Will’s situation after the trial? Alicia will also be affected by the Grand Jury trial, but I think that unlike Will, for her will be more personal than professional. Both of them being in trouble could be a good reason for joining their forces?

Hi everyone, I have not been here for a long while. I have not even seen any episodes of the new Season/Series. I am so looking forward to watching. Reading your posts I see they have broken up. Oh well! I am not really surprised because all shows like to throw obstacles in the way of couples. Grace? Just watched a promo about her entering a car with someone. Does that mean she has left the show? Yippee. Bye for now.