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Old 07-14-2005, 03:33 PM
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Sum. Break Season 1 Ep. Discussion: 109 Turf Wars/110 Is There a Doctor in the House?

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#109 - "Turf Wars" (Original Airdate: 11/11/02)
Andy's (Treat Williams) parenting skills are questioned when Ephram (Gregory Smith) and Delia's (Vivien Cardone) grandparents (guest stars Mark Rydell and Doris Belack) pay them an unexpected visit to check up on their son-in-law. Meanwhile, Ephram sneaks out of the house to see Amy (Emily VanCamp) who is still emotionally recovering from the aftermath of Colin's (Mike Erwin) surgery.


#110 - "Is There a Doctor in the House? (Original Airdate: 11/18/02)
Delia (Vivien Cardone) and her grandmother (guest star Doris Belack) throw a festive birthday party for a grumpy Edna (Debra Mooney) who hates this particular day of the year, but everyone winds up snowed in for the night when a big storm hits town. In the midst of it all, Bright (Chris Pratt) collapses from a burst appendix and Drs. Brown (Treat Williams) and Abbott (Tom Amandes) have to improvise an operating room before the infection spreads; while Andy and Ephram (Gregory Smith) let months of tension and hurt feelings explode in front of everyone with a threat of Ephram moving back to New York with his grandparents.

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Old 07-15-2005, 01:36 PM
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My favourite part of ''Is There a Doctor in the House?'' was the Bright storyline. I'm pretty sure that was one of the first times we ever saw Bright as being a human being, and not just a jerky jock. I loved it. And the dynamic between Harold and Bright was really touching, and the whole Delia-has-a-crush-on-Bright aspect to it? Cutest crush I've ever seen... Vivien Cardone was genius in it.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:17 PM
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Me too, Janelle. The Harold/Bright stuff was superb. The best. I also loved the Delia/Bright stuff. So cute. I love the expression on Delia's face whenever Bright first walks in. Adorable!

Ephram/Amy's chemistry was amazing. I love the "I thought New York had everything?" bit. Ephram's response of "just about," literally flushes my face. Powerful stuff.

In Turf Wars, drunk Ephram is outstanding. "Mr. Bush." Great, great stuff.

I don't have time to comment extensively on both episodes. Busy as ever, and well, I'm plainly excited as can be about the new Harry Potter book being in my hands tonight, at midnight, which I will be doing an all nighter as I read the book until I basically drop from exhaustion..

I'll come back later on, sometime, to comment more. After my Harry Potter read.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:34 PM
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I'm actually just pulling myself OUT of my Harry Potter read (I've been out almost all weekend and have still managed, in about six hours total, to read 22 of the 30 chapters) to come post on here and agree with everything Wilpen said!
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I'm actually just pulling myself OUT of my Harry Potter read (I've been out almost all weekend and have still managed, in about six hours total, to read 22 of the 30 chapters) to come post on here and agree with everything Wilpen said!
Awww, thank, Janelle.

Yeah, I lacked sleep all weekend long due to furiously turning the pages of HBP, and I still feel the exhaustion today. Oh well, it was all worth it. I am already complaining about how I want my hands on book 7. How could JK leave us with an ending like that? Heh. I am starting my second and more thorough read of the book tonight where I take the notes and reread certain pages, etc. Yeah, I'm a huge fanatic, and I'll admit, total nerd whenever it comes to Harry Potter.

I have lived on the HP board all weekend long and I'm thinking that board will be a constant thing for me for quite a while.
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Delight is adorable.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:37 PM
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Ephram drunk in "Turf Wars" was hilarious.
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Not my favorite episode ever, the grandparents annoyed me. I wasn't sure why Edna was so rude to Delia's grandma. IMO It wasnt really her place to talk down to her, Edna is not her family.

Good for Colin's parents telling Amy to leave the hospital. She really was putting a lot of pressure on him and his recovery.

Amy telling Ephram to move on was harsh but I kind of understand why she was feeling frustrated. Her and Ephram had just kissed and it probably felt like he was just trying push Colin out of the picture.

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This was an intense episode.

Delia's little crush on bright was the cutest! Poor guy going through all that during a storm!

Nina giving Andy the smackdown on his parenting was A+. GO NINA! I love how honest she is.

The Andy/Jacob fight was really hard to watch and frustrating too because I don't think that Andy took his wife for granted. He wasn't home as often as he could have been but it was clear how much love they had for one another and Jacob was sticking his nose where it didnt belong imo.

The Ephram/Andy moment at the end was sweet. I loved Andy telling Ephram he didnt want him to go and deep down I think thats all Ephram really wanted to hear from him anyways.

Then seeing Harold worrying over Bright right after was so adorable I just love Harold's relationships with his kids and it makes me wonder why Edna and Harold arent getting along? I cant remember if she explained why already or not?

Amy going to Ephram and ranting and apologizing is so awesome because it always nice to see her reaching out to Ephram and not the other way around. Her calling him different was definitely a good thing, even if he didnt completely realize it. When he told her he was staying and Amy was so excited, that was really cute.

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Not my favorite episode ever, the grandparents annoyed me. I wasn't sure why Edna was so rude to Delia's grandma. IMO It wasnt really her place to talk down to her, Edna is not her family.
Edna was a badass.

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Good for Colin's parents telling Amy to leave the hospital. She really was putting a lot of pressure on him and his recovery.
I had mixed feelings about this. I understood that Amy was being very pushy regarding Colin, but I also felt badly for Amy. It must have been so tough for her to be banished from the hospital.

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Amy telling Ephram to move on was harsh but I kind of understand why she was feeling frustrated. Her and Ephram had just kissed and it probably felt like he was just trying push Colin out of the picture.
It was harsh because Amy was really giving Ephram mixed feelings. I guess my bias toward Ephram is talking here.



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110:

This was an intense episode.

Delia's little crush on bright was the cutest! Poor guy going through all that during a storm!
So adorable! Loved when she looked UP at him..."You're tall." lol

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Nina giving Andy the smackdown on his parenting was A+. GO NINA! I love how honest she is.
I love Nina. Always has good sensible advice.

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The Andy/Jacob fight was really hard to watch and frustrating too because I don't think that Andy took his wife for granted. He wasn't home as often as he could have been but it was clear how much love they had for one another and Jacob was sticking his nose where it didnt belong im
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I understood that the Jacob was heartbroken over losing his daughter, but he was undermining Andy a bit much. it was his place to decide where Ephram lived.

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The Ephram/Andy moment at the end was sweet. I loved Andy telling Ephram he didnt want him to go and deep down I think thats all Ephram really wanted to hear from him anyways.
Yes, that is all Ephram wanted to hear. He needed to be stopped!

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Then seeing Harold worrying over Bright right after was so adorable I just love Harold's relationships with his kids and it makes me wonder why Edna and Harold arent getting along? I cant remember if she explained why already or not?
Harold felt abandoned by his mom. She left the family to be in the military. Plus...Edna was not always nice to Harold. She kind of put him down.

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Amy going to Ephram and ranting and apologizing is so awesome because it always nice to see her reaching out to Ephram and not the other way around. Her calling him different was definitely a good thing, even if he didnt completely realize it. When he told her he was staying and Amy was so excited, that was really cute.
THis was one of my favorite scenes. Loved it. Yes...it good that Ephram was being chased for a change.

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It doesn't have Amy!
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She wasnt banished. It seemed she went there every single day. They were just asking for some time. At the end of the day its their son and they want him to feel comfortable and recover with ease, not with all the pressure Amy was putting on him to remember her. Its not about his g/f right now and Amy IMO was sort of making it about herself.
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She wasnt banished. It seemed she went there every single day. They were just asking for some time. At the end of the day its their son and they want him to feel comfortable and recover with ease, not with all the pressure Amy was putting on him to remember her. Its not about his g/f right now and Amy IMO was sort of making it about herself.
I agree with this . I understand that it was difficult for Amy and that it hurt her what they said to her, but for me the Harts had every right to do so. It was their son and they were trying to protect him. She was putting pressure on him and it wasn't doing him any good. In the end of the day they did what they thought was right for their son's well being.
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She wasnt banished. It seemed she went there every single day. They were just asking for some time. At the end of the day its their son and they want him to feel comfortable and recover with ease, not with all the pressure Amy was putting on him to remember her. Its not about his g/f right now and Amy IMO was sort of making it about herself.
You're right about that. Amy was putting pressure on Colin. I guess my feelings are because I felt sorry for Amy. I'm sure that in her mind it felt like she was being banished. It must have been torture for her not to be able to go to the hospital everyday.
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Amy was in overdrive over the situation. I honestly don't know how she functioned given everything that she was going through. Honestly, I think this time period was tougher on her than Colin's actual death. Both were bad situations, but man, she was all over the place trying to keep it together, feeling obligated to be by Colin's side all the time. At least with Colin's death, she had the situational depression and experienced a very difficult time, but there was some odd closure she was working towards at the same time. The period before Colin's death while he still suffered effects of the brain injury were confusing, with an unknown outcome which made it all the more stressful and difficult.

But yes, I did agree with the Harts as well. They had have every right to go there. I kind of wish Harold, Rose and Edna would have helped Amy a bit more during this time period. They kind of passively allowed her to do her thing. I wish they would have taken a bit of a different approach.

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Yeah I felt bad for Amy too and I know she was only trying to help, but I think her emotions were clouding the situation. She was so intent on getting the old Colin back. I think it would have benefited her more to try to just be a friend to him.

Even though its hard to admit, they essentially broke up when he was in that accident. I mean if someone doesn't remember you, then you sort of have to start from scratch. She probably would have been better off just being a supportive friend to him instead of trying to re-inforce that she was his GF before the accident.

I agree about her own parents, I too think they should have tried to talk to Amy more about it.
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