cowgirl08

Luck
Went to find the article you posted that quote from just to make sure my assumptions werent wrong and in same article Luck says this :
Thats ^^^ what I was saying Luck isnt being pretentious he knows that he isnt going to replace Peyton he is just saying he wants to play right away....who doesnt want to play right away.

Crazed Parents
Yeah and I think some parents just lose site of the fact its their kids lives...its their game and instead are trying to relive their glory days through their kids. This in turn makes them into these crazy competitive overbearing parents that don't know when to stop.

Dolfan13

Can it be Sunday already?

The Crow

Luck

It doesn't rub me the wrong way because he's being honest. Personally, I think he's more talented than Andy Dalton, and Dalton came in and would probably have been rookie of the year if it wasn't for Cam Newton (another rookie). Seeing those guys do it that quickly has to add to his desire to play right off the bat.

Durant

I have a problem with what he said because I don't think he's being honest. He basically said that it wasn't that good of a dunk, and that if someone on his team had done it no one would care. That's just patently untrue. Everyone went nuts about his dunk on Brendan Haywood last year in the playoffs. If he'd just been defending his teammate without putting down the awesomeness of the play, then I'd have had no problem with it. As it is, it kinda sounds crybaby-ish.

Griffin

Well, the top five picks of 2008 (which would have been when Griffin was in the draft if he came out a year earlier) went like this:

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Beasley
3. OJ Mayo
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Kevin Love

Now, after Griffin's freshman season he was getting accolades. He was on the All Big XII rookie team and all Big XII team. He was expected to be a lottery pick, but I doubt he's have pushed Rose off the mountaintop. He may not have even been able to knock Beasley out of the 2 spot, considering how much people liked him back then. Contrast that with his sophomore season, where he became the only player in OU history to win all six major player of the year awards and he was the Big XII player of the year, the SI player of the year, the FOX Sports player of the year, and the Sporting News player of the year. That all led to a top 5 that looked like this in 2009.

1. Blake Griffin
2. Hasheem Thabeet
3. James Harden
4. Tyreke Evans
5. Ricky Rubio

On one hand, I kinda wish he had come out after his first season, because there's a good chance that he'd have fallen to OKC at 4, and although Westbrook is a good player, there's no way they'd pass up the chance to bring in a hometown boy at that pick. On the other hand, if he hadn't had that extra year of seasoning in the college ranks, he may not have turned out as good as he is now, so it's probably better that he stayed.

cowgirl08

Luck
Agreed Alan, he has talent and he is confident in that theres nothing wrong with that in fact its encouraged. Confidence is good just dont let it turn into cockyness which is something that I dont think we have to worry about with Luck.

Durant
See everything in me screams to take that route and hate him for it too....I cant stand his wronghorn ties afterall....but I dig the loyalty. The interview i saw with it he said something along the lines of "yeah if it wasnt against us I probably would have gotten excited over it but since it hurt our team im not going to celebrate it" so yeah part of it may be a little cry babyish but the reasoning behind it is something that rare in the NBA and thats why the Thunder are so good this year they have that team unity.

The Crow

The quote I read was this one:
To me, that's downgrading the play and disrespecting Griffin. He did backpedal somewhat and say that he would probably have appreciated it if it hadn't been against his team. I'd have been fine with him saying that, but the original quote was ludicrous.

P.S. Griffin would've had a similar dunk against Durant earlier in that game, but Durant just moved out of the way instead of challenging the shot.

I said Durant was being crybaby-ish because of this quote:
First of all, his dunk over Haywood was frequently called 'the best dunk of the playoffs,' and second I'm always seeing Westbrook to Durant (and vice versa) plays on Sportscenter. Maybe the Thunder aren't as featured as the Lakers or Chicago or Miami, but that's how it is for an upstart team. They are well on their way to establishing themselves as a perennial contender, and in my eyes they are at least close to being on par with the Bulls, but it's just the nature of being in a small market to be farther down the line when it comes to respect.

Oh, for the record, I'm more in agreement with an agreed upon dunk master, Vince Carter, and his thoughts on the play:

cowgirl08

Durant

This is the quote Im referring too all from same article:
So I respect his stance on this ^^ But I do agree him whining about the Thunder not getting the media attention they deserve is being a cry baby and its annoying. The Thunder are a good team probably the best of season so far but OKC isnt a big market so they just have to deal with that....last time I heard him talk about it he liked being in a smaller market because he got to stay out of the lime light. Now he is whining about it, just pick a side!

jediwands

Luck

Thanks for showing me the entire article. I actually took that from a few highlighted quotes. Media manipulation I tell you! LOL.

Something about that situation still bothers me and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe I just have such respect for Peyton Manning that I am bothered that he might be chucked out even if that's technically not how it will go down.

Wow! That is so insane.

Very interesting about your situation in Northern Jersey. Yes, we didn't have that in Ohio/Minnesota. White, white white middle to upper class, even now!

I know it can be rabid in any sport but in my experience, it's soccer the most. It was a pleasure playing basketball. The parents were so down to earth, I LOVED EVERYONE on my teams, it was the best. I also remember talking to a teammate/friend (African American) asking her why she didn't take up soccer because her athletic ability was phenomenal. She told me her family couldn't afford it... she said it was okay because basketball was the sport that would give her a scholarship and she was right on! She got a full ride and had a phenomenal career.

My sister was good friends with one of the mom's on Anna's team. She was new, her girl just made the team last night. Now? Kris can't stand her! Her head is as full as a stuffed turkey, she is loud, arrogant, carrying on constantly both on and off the field. Kris hangs with the more down to earth mom's who happen to be the mother's of the daughter's Anna hangs with. LOL

everwoodfan52

There are definitely parents like that! They are loud, opinionated...even knock other kids on the team. I hate that!



Clint and his beautiful family....



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ETA: http://www.mlssoccer.com/blog/post/2...-marches-egypt

cowgirl08

Yep that's why I never trust quotes without seeing the full article. People will try and skew words into anything they can that will get attention.

jediwands

Definitely.

Still, something bothers me like I said. I have seen Luck in interviews and feel a little put off. I have to stop that though because I haven't seen enough to really know what I think of him personally. I just find it completely ridiculous that everyone is crowning him as the next King when he hasn't played even a down of pro football yet. Look at Aikman, Elway, Montana... all the great QBs... they were crap initially.

It is really annoying. My sister and Anna roomed with that mom and daughter during the first tournament last season in Iowa. They all got along great. But then as the months progressed, both the mother and daughter developed chips in their shoulders and slowly Kris and Anna pulled away. Anna even has homeroom with the girl. Her name is Kennedy. They barely speak. Hi and that's about it.

Awe! Both children has his startling eyes.

I completely agree with this poster:

cowgirl08

Oh I more than agree its ridiculous everyone is crowning him the next king but I dont blame that on him I blame it on the media. Its ridiculous to assume a kid will turn into the next great thing just based on talent any sports buffs in here remember Todd Marinovich? ALL the talent in the world but so much more comes into play to determine if success will be sustainable. The reason I like Luck is one he went to Stanford not really a football school but he went there because he believed in its tradition and what it stands for academically. And two because he stayed to graduate he EASILY could have come out last year and been a first round pick but instead he stayed in school one more year to get that degree. The kid from all the things I have seen is more than humble and just loves the game, the fact he believes he can start day one isnt being cocky its being confident.

Josh Hamilton
Sad to hear about his relapse but as a Rangers fan I will stick behind him my prayers go out to him and his family, they don't call it an addiction because its easy.

jediwands

Yes, you're right. And good point about how he stayed for the degree. That is very true. The guy has to be smart and with it going to Stanford probably more for academics than sports, and he excelled in both.

Yes, Ryan Leaf, look at him, too.

I love how Tebow is kind of the anti-Luck though. So many laughing at him before he even stepped on the pro football field thinking he could never make it. He had his followers but more of an emotional following with large belief his heart would get him to succeed. Talent wise, skill wise, analyzers laughed at him. He wasn't king, he was considered a fool! Look at what he did. Outstanding.

Josh Hamilton

Absolutely. His press conference was heartfelt and real. You could tell how torn up he is. He has a real addiction and one that he battles daily. He'll get through it.

The Crow

It's sad to me that something that should be private necessitates a press conference and warrants newspaper headlines.

jediwands

Oh, I know it. The media is blowing it up.

cowgirl08

Well to be fair Tebow won two National Championships and a Heisman none of which Luck won....sooooo I think the people who believed in Tebow(myself including) believed in more than his heart. He had talent and he showed that he just wasnt a conventional pro style QB like Luck is which is why he gets all the pub. But yes Tebow is an example that pro scouts sometimes get to caught up on the measurables and when a kid like Luck comes out with A+ scores in all areas they get overly excited. And before people lose it on me YES Luck has better QB skills than Tebow he is more accurate and seems to have a stronger arm but as we have seen in the past Talent isnt all you need to suceed. I wish Luck the best but I am not anointing him the next great one just yet.

Hamilton
AMEN!