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Old 08-22-2011, 10:38 PM
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I love Reese Witherspoon in the first Legally Blonde, she's really clever beneath her pretty Barbie exterior. I love Walk The Line and thought she was wonderful in that too. I especially liked how tolerant her parents were of her divorce, as at the time, it was a pretty big social taboo to get divorced and most women would be given the cold shoulder by their families if they did so.

Oh, Matt, I totally agree with you regarding the rubbish translations of movie titles as they are spectacularly bad in France! It makes it really hard to find DVDs for my collection or to work out which film is which on the cinema website that tells me what's on or going to be on.

Boxsets of shows are really expensive where I am, unless they're on sale! Sometimes they're almost 60 €, which to me is 7-8 cinema tickets, so I'd rather have those instead!

It's a shame you didn't like Raising Helen, but never mind! At least you tried it & didn't judge it by its cover!


I like Jake Gyllenhaal for mostly shallow reasons (so handsome!) and really should watch Donnie Darko in full, as I saw 5 minutes of it (walked into the shared lounge at Uni & someone was in the middle of it and I didn't get it).
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I love Reese Witherspoon in the first Legally Blonde, she's really clever beneath her pretty Barbie exterior. I love Walk The Line and thought she was wonderful in that too. I especially liked how tolerant her parents were of her divorce, as at the time, it was a pretty big social taboo to get divorced and most women would be given the cold shoulder by their families if they did so.
She's a charismatic nice actress, and that's always good. Have to watch Walk The Line Again, got it on dvd, I actually buy pretty many movies on dvd on sale (for like 5 €), since I have already seen them I know that I take no risk. But then it takes me ages to rewatch them, cos I rather watch a new movie than one I've already seen. And I'd rather watch a Raising Helen then stuff where I'd be sure to like it better. It's honestly a too long time ago, so I forget things. But I liked WTL. Another movie with music, now we're onto something.

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Oh, Matt, I totally agree with you regarding the rubbish translations of movie titles as they are spectacularly bad in France! It makes it really hard to find DVDs for my collection or to work out which film is which on the cinema website that tells me what's on or going to be on.
Finally somebody who gets me. I'd challange you to a game of "which country has the most horrible movie translations", sadly it would be hard for both of us. Some are good, but too many are just crap! Like with chick flicks, those movie titles always sound so boring. Like Raising Helen was called "Love On Detour" (I'm not a pro, so I hope that even makes sense to you, if not I'm really sorry), or the newest Selena Gomez movie isn't called Monte Carlo, it's called "Suddenly (a) star" - I mean, argh. And one more to give you a taste: The Natalie Portman/Ashton Kutcher movie No Strings Attached was called "Friendship Plus". Luckily they keep the movie title often or simply translate them. May I ask why that makes it so hard to find movies? That problem I never had.

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Boxsets of shows are really expensive where I am, unless they're on sale! Sometimes they're almost 60 €, which to me is 7-8 cinema tickets, so I'd rather have those instead!
I noticed that! I was searching on the french amazon page just some time ago to look what prices they have, I was shocked! I honestly would recommend you to buy from England (since I do that I save so much money) or even Germany maybe (I'm not sure what they charge for shipment) could be cheaper. Now I understand, if I now tell you that I since 2 years buy from England and now I don't buy dvd boxes for more than 20 €! I simply don't do it. Before that I spend a lot of money on those boxes (as I told you, I have 120 tv show seasons and half of them are German versions), but not anymore.

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It's a shame you didn't like Raising Helen, but never mind! At least you tried it & didn't judge it by its cover!
Never really expect to "like" it, but I was hoping it could be a nice evening movie, I didn't even know what it was about, there was just Kate Hudson on the cover and I knew that John Corbett was in it, so I thought it would be a chick flick about a young woman with a slightly older man. It wasn't, it was nice to watch most of the time, but when I found out that it was 110 minutes instead of like 90, the last half hour was not the easiest to watch. I have like an inner hope with movies that they are better than I expect. Maybe that's it, I simply like to watch other movies than the ones I buy, to broaden my horizon, cos I'm usually not into light comedy movies, more drama and serious stuff, so I take what I get or find lying around in the house or what my sisters borrows me.


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I like Jake Gyllenhaal for mostly shallow reasons (so handsome!) and really should watch Donnie Darko in full, as I saw 5 minutes of it (walked into the shared lounge at Uni & someone was in the middle of it and I didn't get it).
It's not that I don't like him, he's a nice guy I guess, but apart from those 2 movies (one of his first ones) there was none that I liked or where he convinced me. I've seen like (and now you will be surprised ^^) 9 movies of him (my sis is a fan too), but he was never outstanding, Brokeback and Jarhead were the better ones of him besides the twos I love. So I would recommend you to watch Donnie Darko, it's a wonderful movie, it is a great mixture of so many things and you have to watch it more than twice to think you got it (and then you didn't really). I like his last name a lot, I'd change my name to Matt Gyllenhaal in a second, that sounds AWESOME, like a Norse God!







The Middle: Season 2, Episode 2

Mike thought that young Brick easily could go leaf raking. But he didn’t really do it, he sorted the leaves by colour, each one. It took him 11 days instead of let’s be fair he’s small I think 2 hours. It’s Homecoming, Axl is on the team and the parents had to escort the players onto the field. But Sue’s something was on the same day as homecoming, so the parents had to divide. Frankie is a talker, Mike a doer. Like that! Really!: Since Sue is so stupid (sorry, but she is, I wish she wasn’t), she got lost in the woods when she was running and Frankie missed the Homecoming. I hope her cross country obsession stops, her character was better before that. Yes, she missed Homecoming, thanks to Sue running around in the woods for hours. So there was no happy ending, when Axl got hit on the field, and Frankie ran to him, that was embarrassing for him, but he was glad that his mom was there for him. A beautiful moment when Brick and Mike let the collected leafs free, yes, Brick didn’t want to burn them, so they drove to the forest and let them free. This episode was a bit better then the season premiere.



Raising Helen

To not to forget to write something. I didn't know what this movie was about, usually I know that, but here I didn't care. The German movie title has the word "love" in it, so I thought it was about a young woman falling in love with a sligly older man (John Corbett). But it wasn't. That was my luck. My problem was that this movie was too much of a very light comedy movie, but not really funny, the plot about a young mid-20 woman who had her career suddenly having to take care of the 3 kids of her dead sister was an interesting plot, usually if I read something like that, I put that movie on my list. Sadly there was a lot missing, not much drama, not much depth, only a few really good scenes like the fights of the older sister (Joan Cusack who did a goo djob) being jealous and angry for not getting the custody of the kids, cos she is way more mature than Helen, who was written like a shallow person, who didn't know how to act with children (especially the teenage daughter played by young Hayden Panettiere. She looked so much like a young Emily, that freaked me out a bit in the first 40 minutes of the movie). And she didn't even dare to tell them to stop or say something like "no, you're not allowed", no, she let them do almost anything. And I didn't really like the two lead actors, Kate Hudson and John Corbett are nice people and actors (and I liked him on Parenthood), but here they didn't convince me, their acting was colourless. There were almost no highlights, here a nice fight, most of the time the movie was just moving towards the end without having any positive effect on me. Could've been better, was not. And it was too long, when I thought it would end after 90 minutes, I was a big shocked when I read like 110 minutes.

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Breaking Bad: Season 2, Episode 13 (S2 Season Finale Rewatch)

Usually I don't do that, but since it's been almost exactly one year (-2 days), I rewatched the season 2 finale of Breaking Bad. It was good, not so great as I had it in mind, it was a very quiet episode. Junior collected over 6000 $ for his dead via online donations, got a report on tv, Walter had an operation, Jesse was depressed and drugged after Jane died and he couldn't safe her and thinks it was his fault. No, it wasn't, ask Mr. White. It was a very slow episode, after Walter said one fatal "which one", his wife Skyler found out, that he not only had lied about the phone (I remember that she found out about that before), he didn't take money for his operation but had told her he got it from there and he didn't visit his mom - I think he was cooking in the desert with the van when he told that lie. She left him, Jesse crushed, Walter alone - that's a very interesting situation for season 3. Can't wait. Just didn't so much like the planescrash, Jane's father was the reason 2 planes crashed, I know that we saw more of that during the 2nd season, but the finale just ended with the teddybear falling into Walt's pool - well done, though the explosion looked very cheap, it was a great shot when they showed the plane crash down, this view from the air down to Albuquerque, impressive.

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:20 AM
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Matt, have you heard of Play.com? It's where I get a lot of my DVDs/TV shows as the prices are very reasonable, there's no postage fee and you can pay in Euros!

I usually get a couple of things there every month, sometimes more if I've done a lot more hours for my Wednesday job! There are often sales on, where no DVD is more than 7 Euros & sometimes you can get 3 for 15 Euros... Boxsets are around 20 € which is pretty bargainous!

My list of stuff to buy from there seems to get longer every day, and I'm going to have to add some of the movies you've reviewed that sound right up my street to it.

I too buy DVDs I've really enjoyed & then try and watch the ones I've never seen before, but I'm usually drawn back to my old favourites so I have a huge backlog, probably about a third of my collection is still unwatched!

I often find it hard to find DVDs I'm looking for in French stores, as I'll only know the English title & I'll have to explain the plot & name the actors as well as give the English title, so it can get frustrating for everyone involved!

Examples of stupid translations for movie titles in France are, in mo particular order: Very Bad Trip for The Hangover, Best Friends for Bridesmaids, College Attitude for Never Been Kissed, Never Forget for The Notebook, Too Far From You for Going The Distance and many many others that were so bad I've obliterated them from my memory.

Oh, and my reason for liking Glee was just my explanation of why I like it (the father-son stuff), it wasn't an attempt to convert you into a Glee fanatic, honest!
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Matt, have you heard of Play.com? It's where I get a lot of my DVDs/TV shows as the prices are very reasonable, there's no postage fee and you can pay in Euros!
Yes, of course, I ordered there once, but the problem is that they are cheap but it takes like 2 or more weeks to get your stuff, usually I wait one week for amazon.uk. It depends, if you don't bother waiting some more days it's fine, but I prefer England.

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I usually get a couple of things there every month, sometimes more if I've done a lot more hours for my Wednesday job! There are often sales on, where no DVD is more than 7 Euros & sometimes you can get 3 for 15 Euros... Boxsets are around 20 € which is pretty bargainous!
Yeah, I also don't like spending like 15 € (how cool is it to talk in € on the ? ) for a new movie, why not wait and get it cheaper, it's an addiction, don't waste no money. 20 € is really fine, it depends if it's newer or older and if we have 13 or 22 episodes.

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My list of stuff to buy from there seems to get longer every day, and I'm going to have to add some of the movies you've reviewed that sound right up my street to it.
I forgot to count, I'll never make it. It's like a life long journey. You can ask me any time if you want to know something more about them.

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I too buy DVDs I've really enjoyed & then try and watch the ones I've never seen before, but I'm usually drawn back to my old favourites so I have a huge backlog, probably about a third of my collection is still unwatched!
Yeah, I've got like 30 movies unwatched (though I've seen I think half of them on TV before). But I still buy new movies if I see some on sale, I think what the heck, I want more, doesn't hurt.

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I often find it hard to find DVDs I'm looking for in French stores, as I'll only know the English title & I'll have to explain the plot & name the actors as well as give the English title, so it can get frustrating for everyone involved!
Hm, okay, never have the problem, but I usually buy online instead of going store hunting, but they usually don't have much of the movies I like, only the mainstream of the mainstream blockbuster stuff.

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Examples of stupid translations for movie titles in France are, in mo particular order: Very Bad Trip for The Hangover, Best Friends for Bridesmaids, College Attitude for Never Been Kissed, Never Forget for The Notebook, Too Far From You for Going The Distance and many many others that were so bad I've obliterated them from my memory.
Very Bad Trip? WOW! Good one! Best Friends is okay. College Attitude? Yeah, we also had a change, The Notebook is something like, let me think......... "Like on one (single) day" or better "only one day", yeah. Hm, I think you hit me hard with Very Bad Trip, that's Hilariously bad.

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You can't do that, I made my peace, I like when people recommen me shows, I ask them, but I wouldn't watch them if I wouldn't have some serious interest.







The Lizzie McGuire Movie

Just rewatched the 65th and last episode of the show and watched the movie to finish the show. The only bad thing was that Miranda wasn't on the movie, but honestly she was missing for 6 episodes on the show already and those episodes did well without her. And I like Gordo more than her (since I'm a boy), he's a cool and smart guy, so I was glad that he was on the movie, Ethan, Kate, Matt, the parents too and not to forget Cartoon Lizzie, of course it had some really funny lines.

Since it had been some years since I watched the movie (more than 4 years), I wasn't sure if I would like it at all, but no time to worry, I had sooo much fun. The plot was not the best, it was about Lizzie taking a vacation to Roma with her class and was mistaken for an Italien popstar that looked just like her, just with black hair and an accent. But it was fine, better than expect, we got to see a lot of Rome, pretty city, and to my surprise, the other actors had enough scenes to make me happy and not to think this was a Hilary Duff solo show, not it wasn't. Hilary Duff was doing what she did with Lizzie McGuire for the whole show, I think she did a great job, she was cute and just so much fun to watch. Nice story, nice ending, everybody happy, there are not many Disney Channel movies I've seen or like to watch, but this one is still great, because it felt down to earth compared to other movies from this "genre".

8,5/10
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For me, paying 15 € for a new release is fine for me, as they're 20 € for the first few weeks they come out, and in stores, I've seen some for nearly 30 €, which sucks!

I've never had to wait more than about 10 days for a play.com delivery, although I have had one DVD that never arrived at all, but it was only 5 € and at the time I was better off and difdn't worry about it too much. They also send each item out seperately which strikes me as not very ecologically friendly, as it's a lot of packaging!

12 Angry Men sounds like a really good movie, and there were a few more on your lists I really want to see now, Matt, namely Dancer In The Dark, which I've had for several years but never got around to watching, due to it seeming incredibly depressing!

I have a bit of an obsession with movie soundtracks so I might have to get that one too!

The translation for the title of No Strings Attached was really bad in French too, but yeah, Very Bad Trip (actually in English, which makes less than no sense!) takes the prize for the worst translated movie title ever!

I haven't started Parenthood yet, so I've managed to exercise self control!
I'm going to bring it plus some other movies I haven't seen yet to my babysitting job tomorrow!
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For me, paying 15 € for a new release is fine for me, as they're 20 € for the first few weeks they come out, and in stores, I've seen some for nearly 30 €, which sucks!
Depends on what it is, usually there are no movies I need right away, 'cept for certain TV shows, like Dexter S5 I will have to buy when it is released, cost some more.


Don't know with play.com, it was only 2 CDs and that was like 2 weeks.


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12 Angry Men sounds like a really good movie, and there were a few more on your lists I really want to see now, Matt, namely Dancer In The Dark, which I've had for several years but never got around to watching, due to it seeming incredibly depressing!

I have a bit of an obsession with movie soundtracks so I might have to get that one too!
Yes, that are too really intersting movies. 12 Angry Men is not the easiest, cos it all takes place in one room over the whole length, but I liked it, it was not as great as a lot of people say it is, but for a black/white movie from like 50 years ago it impressed me what you can do with almost no story and no more than a room. DITD is great, but it's different. Björk does a wonderful job acting, I actually bought the Soundtrack before, but I could enjoy it more after the movie, cos I now remember some of the scenes and that makes it fun. Recommend both to you, Louisa, not to everybody I know that a lot of peole wouldn't like them.

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The translation for the title of No Strings Attached was really bad in French too, but yeah, Very Bad Trip (actually in English, which makes less than no sense!) takes the prize for the worst translated movie title ever!
Yes, you're right, it's so bad, it's still funny to read it, what the hell were those translaters thinking? Were they on a very bad trip themselves? Lendemain de veille? Now I have a slight idea what you are talking about, we had the pleasure that it was simply called Hangover. Okay, it's actually called Very Bad Trip in Francec? That's surprising! But I found this:
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I haven't started Parenthood yet, so I've managed to exercise self control!
I'm going to bring it plus some other movies I haven't seen yet to my babysitting job tomorrow!
Ah, don't wait forever, it's a really good family series. There is a movie too and an original series from like 1990, but that had only a couple of episodes. Really would like to watch at least the movie, I don't think I'll get my hands on the original series.
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Anyone else in foreign countries who has to suffer through dreadful dubbing & sub-standard subtitles?

I was watching Harry Potter 7 Part 1 with the kids I've been looking after for the last two weeks & dear sweet mythical sky being, the dubbing was horrendous, especially the voice actress who was doing Hermione's lines.

Yesterday I watched Up! with them & that was really well translated, the jokes still worked mostly, the voices were really good, considering there's a small pool of actors who dub in France, as far as I can tell.

Even the subtitles on TV shows I used to watch on French TV in my teens/early 20s were riddled with mistakes. Two memorable ones are on Friends, something about cars was translated as something about cards (or vice versa) & on That 70's Show, Red asked Eric to wash up which was translated as do the dishes (wash up means that in British English, but in US English it means clean your hands) and, seeing as the show is set in the US, you'd think that they might have checked the translation!

The humour of some jokes (wordplay especially) definitely gets lost in translation, and I don't find The Simpsons funny in any language except English!

I went out and bought more DVDs today, whoops!
I also got "One Day", the novel that's been made into a film. So far it's really good, but I can't help but think Anne Hathaway is miscast, especially after having read reviews of it that criticise her lack of accent. Carey Mulligan would have been wonderful in the role, or maybe someone else! The film doesn't seem to have been released very widely here, so maybe I'll catch it on DVD in 9-12 months' time when it'll be in the cheap deals section!
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The Middle: Season 2, Episode 3

Frankie: “People say I look 10 years younger than you.” That’s true, Patricia Heaton looks awesome for being like…so old. Mike doesn’t want to go to the doctor and Brick found out that it’s not illegal for kids under 10 to eat candy, guess Frankie lied. I don’t like the Sue plots, today she was convinced, that Axl’s Friend Sean had a crush on her too. Frankie hurt her back but didn’t dare to tell Mike, cos he was perfectly fine after he was checked by the doctor, before that she was sure he wasn’t that perfect. Funniest thing was when Sue’s ex-boyfriend Brad showed up, he’s such a collection of gay clisches, it’s simply funny. The rest was not so good, only Frankie crying because she was getting old was something I liked, she and Mike hat a nice time. Season 2 has to do better, so far season 1 was funnier and better.



Shameless: Season 1, Episode 8

Another good episode, a research team offered Frank 3000 $ for drinking no alcohol for 2 whole weeks. Frank wanted do really do that, it was funny of course, great scenes with the family, but they couldn't really enjoy it cos they knew that he wouldn't stay clean. That was the bitter end. Also liked the storyline about Kevin/Veronica adopting a 13-year-old girl, but it was sad that she was living like in the middle age, what the hell was done to her? Poor, poor girl, and she already has a son. I really got freaking angry at Veronica when she wanted to kick out Ethel, because they only wanted to keep her for one week and only for the money. What is Steve up to? He seems to have a girlfriend at home, but of course Fiona doesn't know, but she is suspicosu cos Debby red a text message about a Candece. Ian still with Mickie but not with Kash, don't like this storyline, Lip with Karen and maybe he gets into College, that'd be great, I'm sure he'll find a way to get some money to pay for it. I felt soooo sorry for Fiona, she was having serious money troubles, couldn't even finish a power point class to get an office job, that was so sad, it's not hard to learn it, if you have some idea about computers, but Fiona doesn't seem to have no clue in that area, of course, she has to work all day for the family and clean after them, and then she had to work in a like stripclub to get some money and that was humiliating. Poor girl, she's so tough, if she is crying there is some serious problem. It was good, the show is doing really good, I like how crazy it is, it has a bunch of interesting storylines, and I really like all the characters, I laugh a lot during the episodes, and it's a drama series, but a lot what Frank says is so funny.


Breaking Bad: Season 3, Episode 1

Back in bizness, baby. Yes, it was the right thing to rewatch the season 2 finale yesterday, cos the first episode took place just 2 weeks after the last episode. Some interesting things happened, Skyler wants the divorce, great and shocking moment when she told Walter in the face "You're a drug dealer". Woah. But she won't tell Hank or the cops if he agrees to the divorce. Great scene when Walter wanted to burn his money but changed his mind and threw the money in the pool. Jesse is back, "I'm the bad guy", 167 people died at the air-crash, Walter rejected a 3 mio. $ deal from the boss for 3 month work, cos he has enough money, I didn't expect Walt to say no, but he has the money and the problems with his family, so that makes sense. And the mysterious storyline about those mexican immigrants and the two assassins who are going after Walt was also interesting, but cruel when they shot a truck full of illegal immigrants, Walter is in big danger. Can't wait to see more, this first episode was as good as I hoped it would be.








You Americans or Canadians or people from European not German Speaking Countries can be really happy for not having to watch those horrible dubbed versions. Some weeks or months ago I showed Betty some dubbed clips, so I'll show you the same, Louisa. Mad Men Promo, Dexter and True Blood. Imagine a world where John Hamm isn't really John Hamm and the problem with Dexter definitely is, that I really like him, when he speaks you feel and see that he's a nice guy, but the deeper more dangerous voice changes that.

Funny when you are talking about Harry Potter 7 Part 1, I watched both 7.1 and 7.2 in cinema some weeks ago (since I hadn't them 7.1) and though I liked both (7.1 was good, 7.2 was missing a lot, it was okay, but not a great finish), the German dubbed also felt not so good to me. It was more the 3 main characters, it felt so unemotional. Of course, if you watch hours of English tv and movies daily and are "forced" to watch something in German again (which you hate to do), it feels strange.

Oh, Up is lovely! I'm not sure how good it actually is, since the movie took a different direction when they met this dog guy, it was too much action, but I liked it, some great parts. Anyway, we got an Austrian dub, so there was a German version and a Austrian version, and this one was REALLY good, especially the old man had such an awesome voice.

Funny examples with those two shows, I am sure that in Germany those mistakes wouldn't be happen, cos the synchronisation scene is a lot bigger. But those two examples ar funny, I honestly have to tell you that I wouldn't have noticed the wash up vs. make the dishes, cos I don't really can differ between British and American English, of course I know the accents, but certain words I don't really know, only a couple of them.

The worst dubs are the ones for comedy shows, you can't traslate a lot of jokes, it's simply impossible. Like the voices for The Big Bang Theory are horrible, I can't get over the fact that it changes the characters, same for The Prince Of Bel-Air, watched it in English for the first time like 2 years ago and it was a lot better, cos Will was way cooler and Carlton had also a more serious tone to him.

Hm, I actualy put One Day on my list of movies that I would watch someday. Or One Day. ^^ It is that movie where the two meet on the same day every year? I could really imagine it to be a interesting book, but for movie that's always a thing, the idea is good, but I'm not really convinced if it's movie material. When I googled Anne Hathaway + One Day I found a lot of articles complaining about her accent. I wonder why they took an American actress, but on wiki it says like Anne Hathaway flew over to the director and did something to him (nah, it didn't say that, but I could imagine it was that way ) I wouldn't really care, cos for me a British accent is a British accent, I'm happy if I understand everything.
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I'm 1 and a half episodes into Season 1 of Parenthood and it's freaking awesome!

It took me a while to work out who the siblings were (Adam, Sarah, Julia & Crosby, right?) and remember what their partners & kids were called, but once I got that straight, it was fine, it was just a lot of info to process at once!

Don't like Zeek the dad very much at all, even though he did call Sarah his shining star (his favourite perhaps?). I think Adam perhaps has a milder form of Asperger's Syndrome than Max & did similar stuff to him growing up, like jumping in puddles repeatedly, as evidenced between the moment Adam shares with Zeek at Sydney's recital. I don't think Zeek is a bad dad as such, though he's not great, but there wasn't as much known about Asperger's 30-40 years ago as there is now, and parenting was different then too.

I loved seeing Mike O'Malley interact with Lauren Graham, as they had a lot of chemistry and their scene at the restaurant made me sad as Sarah could have had a much more stable life with Jim rather than emotional & financial turmoil with Seth, her ex-husband.
I think Mike O'Malley's busy being on Glee now though, and probably was when Parenthood was being filmed, so I don't think he'll be back, but I hope he is, as he doesn't turn up on Glee that often.

My heart broke for Drew and for Amber too, getting held back a grade must be so frustrating. I liked that Hallie, the seemingly good girl was the one who had the pot & not Amber.

Julia's annoyingly focused on her career, but I do feel for her what with Sydney preferring to be with her dad.

Overall, it's a really good cast (no annoying child actors, hurrah!), awesome guest stars (Hi Dr Abbott, um Pelikan!), fabulous writing (funny and poignant from one line to the next) & perfectly imperfect characters. When I grow up I want to be Lauren Graham, it's official!
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I'm 1 and a half episodes into Season 1 of Parenthood and it's freaking awesome!
Well done, Louisa. If you already like season 1, I bet you'll love season 2.

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It took me a while to work out who the siblings were (Adam, Sarah, Julia & Crosby, right?) and remember what their partners & kids were called, but once I got that straight, it was fine, it was just a lot of info to process at once!
Exactly! What names do you need?
Zeek is the father, Camille is the mother, I'm not 100 % sure, but it has to be her name.
Julia + Joel (Sam Jaeger from Eli Stone) & Sydney,
Adam + Kristina & Max + Haddie,
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Don't like Zeek the dad very much at all, even though he did call Sarah his shining star (his favourite perhaps?). I think Adam perhaps has a milder form of Asperger's Syndrome than Max & did similar stuff to him growing up, like jumping in puddles repeatedly, as evidenced between the moment Adam shares with Zeek at Sydney's recital. I don't think Zeek is a bad dad as such, though he's not great, but there wasn't as much known about Asperger's 30-40 years ago as there is now, and parenting was different then too.
W-wait for a second. Zeek is Zeek, he's a father of 4 kids, he's not the easiest person, he has his qualities and some things he does are not that great, I think he can't really cope with feelings. Huh? Why does Adam have Asperger's? Max has that, but Adam not. Yeah, you're right, well put, Zeek is not a bad dad, but definitely is not a great dad as well. Hm, I'm surprised about what you say about Adam. If you continue watching the show you wll see, that Adam is not the easiest person, but that comes from him being the shoulder to cry on or the person to talk, he's the center of the family, everybody comes to him if they have a problem. Of course he is the role model, he has wife and kids and an Asperger's son and he seems to handle all that, when Sarah has no husband and raises 2 kids alone and Crosby doesn't have wife and kids (okay, he has a kid, but didn't have before).

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I loved seeing Mike O'Malley interact with Lauren Graham, as they had a lot of chemistry and their scene at the restaurant made me sad as Sarah could have had a much more stable life with Jim rather than emotional & financial turmoil with Seth, her ex-husband.
I think Mike O'Malley's busy being on Glee now though, and probably was when Parenthood was being filmed, so I don't think he'll be back, but I hope he is, as he doesn't turn up on Glee that often.
I know what you are talking about, he was on the show, but I can't remember when that was, sorry, I can't remember every guest actor on every show. Now I told you how possible it is for him to return, sorry if I ruined anything for you.

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Julia's annoyingly focused on her career, but I do feel for her what with Sydney preferring to be with her dad.
Yes, that's also one of my few problems with the show, Julia. And the Julia storylines. Annoyingly. And she also wants Sydney to be the best. I can tell you that J&J had too many not so good or even boring storylines, that was too often my least favourite part of the episodes.

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Overall, it's a really good cast (no annoying child actors, hurrah!), awesome guest stars (Hi Dr Abbott, um Pelikan!), fabulous writing (funny and poignant from one line to the next) & perfectly imperfect characters. When I grow up I want to be Lauren Graham, it's official!
Yeah, you're right, great cast, I really like the kid actors too, the Sydney actress is cute and intelligent for her age, and the Max actor is simply amazing, wonderful job, and this gives the show and interesting spin, I like if a show has new stuff to offer, like Asperger's, it's so interesting to see Adam/Kristina deal with Max, cos they have to work so hard. Yeah, Tom Amandes. So freaking awesome when he showed up, and he was sooooooo nice. Lauren Graham is a Goddess, that's for sure, I don't know about movies, but an actress who was godlike on the Gilmore Girls and is rocking a bit different and def. more tragic role on Parenthood the same way, who manages to be both dramatic and funny deserves to be praised.

Glad you like it, sorry for my not better responding, I forgot a lot, it's been a year since I finished season 1.
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See Matt, I think Adam was a lot like Max when he was younger & might have mild Asperger's, as referenced with all the conversations with/about his dad who was always trying to "make him into a man" and the way I read the scene outside the recital when both men were watching Max is that Adam had some weird phobias & habits growing up, but it's possible I'm wrong.

I also think it's realistic that Zeek wouldn't be a feelings kind of guy, especially not with his boys, as even 40 years ago, I think fathers were supposed to be the less emotional/stricter parent. He evidently loves his kids though & the show wouldn't be realistic if everyone was perfect.

IMDB has proved helpful as it's told me Mike O'Malley's in 3 episodes, so two more, and his character was mentioned in an episode synopsis, though apparently Sarah breaks it off with him, which sucks.

Joel is cute, never seen him in anything before, but I like how he's a great dad. Julia's trying to make time for her daughter & she obviously loves her, but I'm sad to hear she's a pushy parent! I can see them only having Sydney & all of Julia's hopes, dreams & ambitions being pinned on her. The poor thing is only 5/6 and is already taking Mandarin!

I'm babysitting again on Friday so may continue my viewing then!

I cannot wait for Season 2 to be released!
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How have you been?

It's your birthday tomorrow, by the way...as I'm sure you already know, heh. I hope you have a fantastic day!

I'm glad you're enjoying Parenthood, Louisa! It's definitely on my list to try. Right now, I'm rewatching Buffy for no real reason other than it's been a while.

I also caught up on some new music, namely the new albums from Fleet Foxes and Explosions in the Sky. I liked the new album from Fleet Foxes; enough songs that were a departure from their debut album to make their sound fresh, but enough the same that worked in the original album that I loved the first time and wanted to hear again. Explosions in the Sky, same thing. They just can't go wrong for me. Next up, looking forward to Slow Club's new album in September!
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Welcome back. It seems like in this thread there are only like a handful of people, there used to be some more. Maybe when Summer's over and fall starts.



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Yes, Grant, you should do that, if you like family-drama, you can't go wrong, it has not only a fantastic cast, it's from Master Jason Katims, who brought us Roswell and FNL. That man is great, he's the better Greg Berlanti.


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II also caught up on some new music, namely the new albums from Fleet Foxes and Explosions in the Sky. I liked the new album from Fleet Foxes; enough songs that were a departure from their debut album to make their sound fresh, but enough the same that worked in the original album that I loved the first time and wanted to hear again. Explosions in the Sky, same thing. They just can't go wrong for me. Next up, looking forward to Slow Club's new album in September!
Music? Depends. Fleet Foxes? Now you're talking! I their self-titled debut album, I bought the album + the Sun Giant EP in one package, def worth it. Also got their 2nd album, but haven't listen to it too often, not so sure. It's not bad, but somehow I'm missing something. EOTS have some nice tracks, don't know if I would like to listen to them for a whole album. Didn't they do the FNL theme (do = song was of course used)?




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See Matt, I think Adam was a lot like Max when he was younger & might have mild Asperger's, as referenced with all the conversations with/about his dad who was always trying to "make him into a man" and the way I read the scene outside the recital when both men were watching Max is that Adam had some weird phobias & habits growing up, but it's possible I'm wrong.
I understood what you wrote, but it simply surprised me. I can't really say if you are wrong, just tell you that there is one season 2 episode that maybe could tell us more. Of course Zeek is a father who wants his boys to become man, to be strong and so on - Adam is that way, Crosby not so much. Mild Asperger's something I could understand, so far until end S2 that topic never appeared. Maybe you're right, honestly I think you should send that proposition to Jason Katims.

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I also think it's realistic that Zeek wouldn't be a feelings kind of guy, especially not with his boys, as even 40 years ago, I think fathers were supposed to be the less emotional/stricter parent. He evidently loves his kids though & the show wouldn't be realistic if everyone was perfect.
Well said, Louisa. I like how there are characters on shows that aren't perfect, like our Doctor Brown, Eric Taylor or John Kennish from Switched On Birth, those are all fathers who could need some time out to relax and calm down, but they are who they are, we still love or at least like them with all their flaws. And I like Zeek a lot, of course he's difficult, but it's good for the drama and the conflicts, a drama show needs some characters like that. He's let's say 70 or so, he comes from a totally different time.


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Joel is cute, never seen him in anything before, but I like how he's a great dad. Julia's trying to make time for her daughter & she obviously loves her, but I'm sad to hear she's a pushy parent! I can see them only having Sydney & all of Julia's hopes, dreams & ambitions being pinned on her. The poor thing is only 5/6 and is already taking Mandarin!
Sam Jaeger was Matt Dowd on Eli Stone, and it wasn't easy to like him, cos he was like arrogant and not the feeling kind of guy, more the selfish person, not only bad things, but he was different than Joel. Something like he did the lawyer job more for the money then with the heart. Joel is awesome, I like him a lot and he definitely is a charater that deserves more screentime, I'm not sure if that changed, but at least he got more scenes in season 2, sometimes it seems that the J&J family is all about Julia. Julia def is a pushy parent, she wants Syndey to be the best and show that to the whole world. But the show is called parenthood, why not show such a mother and a stay@home dad?! Sydney is an only child, of course she gets all the attention. And she is smart (but usually tv children are older than their age).


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I'm babysitting again on Friday so may continue my viewing then!

I cannot wait for Season 2 to be released!
Yay for Babysitting! And what better show could you watch when you babysit then a show about parenting?
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The Middle: Season 2, Episode 4

Funny beginning, Mike was eating lunch and found Axl skipping school there. He got suspended for 5 days, and had signed the letter himself cos his parents were so stressed. But Mike took him to his work instead of let him watch tv all day. “This is so not fair. When I turn 30, I’m so out of here.” Mike wanted to punish him this way, so he had to pay, of course Axl was really annoying at work. It was a really good father-son storyline, Mike put his son into the hole, to work with the guys down earth or something like that and Axl was impressed and wanted to drop out of school to become like them. Mike got angry and called Axl “Idiot”, that was hard, but he was angry and annoyed by his lazy son. Nah, he didn’t mean it in a bad way, he just wanted to proectect his son from throwing away his future. That he did well. And Frankie had her own problem, she accidentally prayed for cross country to go away – and it worked. Sue was sad and she had to fix it at the school meeting. I’m glad that cross country is over, I prayed for it to go away too, cos I found Sue’s obsession with it annoying. Awesome scene when Brick who found magic stuff put the remote into his hat and made it disappear – and it was gone. To what should the Hecks now eat dinner to? To the radio? I liked how Brick had to change channels with his hand. The end was sweet, Frankie got cross country back by telling her mean boss the story and he paid to bring the team back – didn’t expect that. It was the best episode of the 2nd season.
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