[jediwands]

Welcome to OT2 Thread #119!


This is the second OT thread that focuses on shows, movies, music we love since Everwood ended.

This thread is about discussing shows, movies, and music. Bring over your opinions on latest episodes, discuss characters and storylines, movies you're watching, music you're listening to.

Shows Everwood members watch:

Michelle: Stranger Things, Chesapeake Shores, Supergirl, The Flash, Riverdale, The 100, The Resident

Betty: (past and present)
Past: ( Everwood, Friday Night Lights, Gilmore Girls, OTH, Parenthood) Present: Pretty Little Liars, Blue Bloods, The Blacklist, Supergirl, The 100, Grace & Frankie, Chesapeake Shores, Graham Norton Show, This Is Us, The Resident

Ashley (AppleBehry22):
Gilmore Girls, One Tree Hill, Nip/Tuck, Roswell, Reba, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Lost

dawnie@:
Gilmore Girls, Lost, One Tree Hill, 24 ,Hell's Kitchen2

Alan (The Crow):
Once Upon a Time, Elementary, NCIS: LA, Scorpion, Gotham, Lucifer, Supergirl, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Brooklyn Nine-Nine, The Flash, Modern Family, blackish, Blindspot, Chicago PD, Lethal Weapon, Arrow, The 100, Rosewood, Pitch, Superstore, The Good Place, The Blacklist, MacGyver, Hawaii Five-0, Teen Wolf, Scream, Grimm, Baby Daddy, Stitchers, The Good Witch, Chesapeake Shores, Wynonna Earp, Mr Robot, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, The Originals, iZombie, Riverdale, APB

Coffee:
Watch: Prison Break, Supernatural, House, Gilmore Girls
Want to watch but always miss it: Bones, Grey's Anatomy, Veronica Mars
Future Shows, I'm planning on watching: Jericho, Heroes..

own worst enemy:
Desperate Housewives, Brothers & Sisters, True Blood, Dexter, Weeds, Big Love, How I Met Your Mother, The Big Bang Theory, One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, 90210, Smallville, Scrubs, Better Off Ted, Grey's Anatomy, Lost, Private Practice, Ugly Betty, The Office, 30 Rock, Top Chef, So You Think You Can Dance, The Hills, My Life on the D List, American Idol, Dollhouse, Mad Men, Nip/Tuck, Fringe
New shows: Melrose Place, The Beautiful Life, The Vampire Diaries, Flash Forward, Bored to Death, Glee

MrsBrown: The Office, Lost, Friday Night Lights, Brothers and Sisters, Battlestar Galactica

ShadowMagist: How I Met Your Mother, Greek, Smallville, Supernatural, Desperate Housewives, Brothers and Sisters, Glee, Vampire Diaries, It's Always Raining In Philadelphia.

Shelby (Cowgirl08): Chuck, Friday Night Lights, 90210, One Tree Hill, Greek, Secret Life of the American Teenager, Make it or Break it, White Collar

Rolfi Cole: Outsourced, Modern Family, Castle, Chuck, Psych, The Mentalist, TVD, Community, House, Ghost Whisperer, Smallville, Supernatural

ForVanAngel: LOST, Gilmore Girls, Six Feet Under, Everwood, Friday Night Lights, The Wire, Dexter, Dawson’s Creek, Roswell, Seinfeld, Malcolm In The Middle, Scrubs, Breaking Bad, Parenthood, Home Improvement, Rescue Me, Mad Men, My So-Called Life, Parks and Recreation, Brothers & Sisters, Switched At Birth, Eli Stone, American Dreams, Community, Skins UK, The Big Bang Theory, One Tree Hill, The Shield, Alias, Freaks and Geeks, Party Of Five, Ally McBeal, Death Note, Lizzie McGuire, That ‘70s Show, The Middle, The L.A. Complex, The Hour, The Wonder Years, Wilfred US.

Blue Valentine: Modern family, Brothers and Sisters, Fringe, How I Met Your Mother, The Vampire Diaries, 90210, Nikita, One Tree Hill,
Favorite Shows: Everwood, Joan Of Arcadia.

Patricia: Law & Order: SVU, Nashville, Supernatural, One Tree Hill, Everwood, Gilmore Girls, Bones, Chasing Life, Castle, Pretty Little Liars, How To Get Away With Murder, Extreme Weight Loss, Girl Meets World, Grey's Anatomy, Wahlburgers.

LemonyPie: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Frasier, Dawson's Creek, Revenge, Suburgatory, Hart of Dixie, The Middle, Modern Family, Dancing with the Stars, Community, Dexter, Against the Wall

Shu/ds44: Suits, Flash, Pitch, Chesapeake Shores, Empire, This is Us, Animal Kingdom, Queen Sugar, JTV, The Originals, Riverdale

Louisa C: Watched in full or almost: The OC, Veronica Mars, Gilmore Girls, Desperate Housewives, Monk, Medium, Parenthood, The Big Bang Theory, Everwood, Being Erica, Grey's Anatomy, Castle...

Purchased, but not yet started or only a few episodes/1st Season watched: Friday Night Lights, Drop Dead Diva, The Closer, Gossip Girl, Once Upon A Time, The Killing, New Girl, My Name Is Earl, Fame, Parks & Recreation, In Treatment, Damages, The Good Wife, Fringe, White Collar, How I met Your Mother, Dexter, Game Of Thrones, Pretty Little Liars, Smash, Lie To Me, Dawson's Creek, The Mentalist...

Jamie: Present: New Girl,Chicago PD, Suits, Better Call Saul, Scandal, Awkward, Undateable, Girls Past: (in addition to our Everwood of course), Breaking Bad, Revenge, Parenthood
One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, Dawson's Creek, The Office, The O.C., Veronica Mars, Gilmore Girls

[jediwands]

Last page of previous thread #118

[The Crow]

Well, honestly, outside of Bellamy and Clarke, I think fans over every character should always be worried about their characters dying.

[jediwands]

How I see it:

Bellamy
Clarke
Raven
Octavia

^ I believe for any of those four to be killed off, the actors would have to request it. Octavia is part of the book series too which is why I think she’s as safe as Bellamy and Clarke. The two main dynamics of this show are: Bellamy/Clarke and Bellamy/Octavia. I don’t see anything happening to this trio as a result.

Raven... she’s just way too much of a fan favorite. I don’t see her being touched either.

2nd Tier:

Murphy
Abby
Kane

While I see these three as not as safe as the other four I think they’re relatively safe too but definitely not untouchable.

Now watch a bunch of them die this season, lol.

[everwoodfan52]

I know it's not a popular opiinion, but I would rather see Octavia killed off than Murphy. I honestly can't stand Octavia.

[jediwands]

Awe I love Octavia. She has her really bad moments. She almost killed Kane ( ) but so much can be explained away. She also didn’t want the leadership position in the Bunker (certainly not as a violent leader) but had to go there. This is a girl who was emotionally abused just for being born/existing. She had to be hidden in a hole! That is the worst form of mental abuse. Octavia is a complex character. I can see why people don’t like her for sure just as easily as I can see why people do like her.

[The Crow]

Originally Posted by everwoodfan52 (View Post) I know it's not a popular opiinion, but I would rather see Octavia killed off than Murphy. I honestly can't stand Octavia.

Well, Octavia is my favorite character, so obviously I disagree. Murphy has grown on me more than I thought possible, but after Echo and Emori, Murphy is my next in line to die.

[everwoodfan52]

Originally Posted by Wilpen (View Post) Awe I love Octavia. She has her really bad moments. She almost killed Kane ( ) but so much can be explained away.

I know! Horrible. I realize she was abused as a child and the love of her life was killed, but enough already. I'm trying my best to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it's not working! I now find myself tempted to fast forward all of her scenes.

What I don't understand now is that Kane is still in danger from her even though they all all out of the bunker. I thought this barbarianism was to maintain order in the bunder.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by everwoodfan52 (View Post) I know! Horrible. I realize she was abused as a child and the love of her life was killed, but enough already. I'm trying my best to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it's not working! I now find myself tempted to fast forward all of her scenes.

Yes, it sucks, and I was also ticked at her when she got so upset with Bellamy, blaming him for a war being started. Bellamy saved them. A case can be made he made a deal with the devil but he managed to find a way to get them out of the Bunker. That is a win no matter what. Deal with the other s$it that comes along with it but it was a major win getting those people out of the Bunker, saving Clarke, Madi. Bellamy looked so broken when Octavia turned on him.

What I don't understand now is that Kane is still in danger from her even though they all all out of the bunker. I thought this barbarianism was to maintain order in the bunder.

I don’t understand it either to be honest. I don’t understand why she almost killed him and I certainly don’t understand why it might be continuing on either. She had to have known he stole the medication for Abby too and he should’ve been given a break as a result. Indra is put in such a tough situation because she is loyal to Octavia but you can tell she’s worried about her mental health and realizes that she’s not making the best decisions.

I really hope this gets sorted soon.

[everwoodfan52]

Originally Posted by Wilpen (View Post) I don’t understand it either to be honest. I don’t understand why she almost killed him and I certainly don’t understand why it might be continuing on either. She had to have known he stole the medication for Abby too and he should’ve been given a break as a result. Indra is put in such a tough situation because she is loyal to Octavia but you can tell she’s worried about her mental health and realizes that she’s not making the best decisions. I really hope this gets sorted soon.

I hope so, too! It says a lot that Indra is showing more humanity than Octavia.

[The Crow]

Originally Posted by everwoodfan52 (View Post) I know! Horrible. I realize she was abused as a child and the love of her life was killed, but enough already. I'm trying my best to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it's not working! I now find myself tempted to fast forward all of her scenes. What I don't understand now is that Kane is still in danger from her even though they all all out of the bunker. I thought this barbarianism was to maintain order in the bunder.

I'm hoping we get more insight into this as they delve into what happened in the past six years. I mean, we went from Octavia's first steps as a leader to the result of 6 years of her absolute dictatorship in one episode, so there's no telling what is going on behind the scenes.

[jediwands]

Bellamy/Octavia

Spoiler:

Not sure what future episode this is in but this happens so there's hope for the Blakes and Octavia ending up in a better place:

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by everwoodfan52 (View Post) I hope so, too! It says a lot that Indra is showing more humanity than Octavia.

Definitely!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by The Crow (View Post) I'm hoping we get more insight into this as they delve into what happened in the past six years. I mean, we went from Octavia's first steps as a leader to the result of 6 years of her absolute dictatorship in one episode, so there's no telling what is going on behind the scenes.

Especially since we know there was a mysterious dark year. They’re hinting at some dark times. I’m thinking it will eventually be covered. Cannibalism theory is still a possibility.

[everwoodfan52]

Originally Posted by The Crow (View Post) I'm hoping we get more insight into this as they delve into what happened in the past six years. I mean, we went from Octavia's first steps as a leader to the result of 6 years of her absolute dictatorship in one episode, so there's no telling what is going on behind the scenes.

I would like to see that. You're right...we were hit in the face with this extreme Octavia with no explanation.