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It's In The Stars~Let's Talk Astrology #3


Thank you, Alex


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CHARACTER PERSONALITY TRAITS






the Sun Signs

Fire
Aries
Leo
Sagittarius

Earth
Taurus
Virgo
Capricorn

Air
Gemini
Libra
Aquarius

Water
Cancer
Scorpio
Pisces

the Fiery Aries Character

Quote:
Mar 21 - April 19

Aries THE RAM is the sign of the pioneer, and warrior leader
As the first sign of the Zodiac Arians cannot help putting themselves first, though they are very affectionate and generous towards their loved ones.
They have warm and enthusiastic natures and can be extremely demonstrative!
Gregarious, sociable and extrovert, Arians are great people to have around as they are usually the life and soul of any party, thanks to their enthusiastic natures.
Sometimes however the Arian face becomes creased with worry and disapproval when he or she is crossed in love.

The bright side
The Aries personality is fiery and warm, passionate and self-expressive with an urge to act NOW! This is NOT a patient sign, everything is done on impulse, and with great urgency.
Aries is a courageous leader, likely to take risks and will usually feel: "I know best". Aries rarely hangs around to check out the details. However give Aries a good cause for which to fight, a problem to solve, or something to pioneer, and this enterprising personality comes into its own.

Forceful, pioneering, adventurous, enterprising, courageous, direct, energetic, freedom loving, self assertive.

The dark side
Strangely enough for this very active sign, one of its main failings is procrastination. Aries is extremely impatient and intolerant of delay.
Aries is likely to put off what must be done, (like bills and tax returns!). Aries will resort to lies rather than be inconvenienced by the uninteresting, or be forced to do that which they do not want to do.
Arians can be blunt, ignorantly offensive, or employ bullying tactics to selfishly get their own way.

Selfish, unsubtle, impulsive, rash, quick tempered, impatient, quarrelsome, aggressive.


the Fiery Leo Character

July 23 - Aug 22

Leo THE LION is the sign of the ruler, the king
Leo is expansive, generous and caring. They revel in love affairs and all things romantic. Leo is passionate, demonstrative and likes nothing better than being spoiled by those they love.
Happiness knows no bounds for the Leo in love!

The bright side
The bright side of Leo is very bright indeed, "sunny side up" they are very much attuned to the life giving properties of our Sun itself. The typical Leo is flamboyant and generous with tremendous charm and a magnanimous spirit. The fixed quality of this sign does help to restrain a large dose of over-exuberance. Leos are loyal, self assured, hard working, and great organizers (only if they can be boss!)

Creative, generous, enthusiastic, organized (if bothered), broad minded, expansive, dramatic

The dark side
The dark side of Leo creeps out usually when they are, (or think that they are) being ignored. Sulking results when they are not the absolute center of attention. Leo will drum up some scene both good and bad to get attention, any attention! Leos can be very self opinionated, bombastic, and overbearing. One of Leos most noted traits is too much pride, leading to pomposity and snobbery. The other noted negative trait is being far too touchy, touchy about everything. When Leos pride and feelings are hurt the temperature drops, they become very touchy and retire to their throne.

Proud, jealous (sibling rivalry starts here), vain, bullying, pompous, snobbish, intolerant, dogmatic, stubborn, patronizing, egotistical, conceited.


the Fiery Sagittarius Character

Nov 22 - Dec 21

Sagittarius THE ARCHER is the sign of the gypsy
Sagittarians prefer to be footloose and fancy free, however should they become involved in a relationship they make it as enjoyable and as much fun as possible. Normally Sagittarius is very gregarious, but they will be glad to find the time for that special relationship, when they are ready!
They are very warm and caring, and though their light hearted affections may seem too casual for some, for the right person that could be just right.

The bright side
Sagittarius is optimistic, outgoing and the most adaptable of the fire signs. They interact spontaneously with life as they continue a lifelong quest for meaning. This sign needs a great deal of freedom, but is equally willing to offer freedom to others. Having an open minded and intellectual curiosity means that Sagittarius is willing to learn about other people in an effort to understand them, while being trusting and open. In fact Sagittarians say what they mean with complete and devastating frankness!

Jovial, optimistic, versatile, open-minded, philosophical, sincere, frank, visionary.

The dark side
Thinking with their mouths, tactlessness and boastfulness tend to upset others, unfortunately Sagittarius possesses all of these traits. While a tendency to moralize and preach on what you or I should do, while following a completely different set of rules themselves does not help either. One of Sagittarius great difficulties lies within relationships. They are completely able to be faithful to two people at once. Bored Sagittarians are a danger to themselves and others. Their attitude is that anything goes, so long as it is entertaining. This often results in over-indulgence and a tendency to burn the candle at both ends, to the detriment of their health.

Tactless, restless, careless, boisterous, irresponsible, boastful, likely to exaggerate, lazy, wasteful, moralizing.


the Earthy Taurus Character

April 20 - May 20

Taurus THE BULL is the sign of the builder, and the earth we stand on
Taureans are extremely faithful, with a strong need for security and a settled routine. Although they are very earthy, they can also be highly romantic and sensitive when it comes to love.

The bright side
Taurus has a patient, grounded and reliable personality. People know where they are with a Taurean, unless they go too far! The Taurean is also warm and sensual, with an appreciation of the fine things in life. Taurus is motivated by a need for security, this sign is good for business matters and can be trusted to carry things through with absolute care. As an earth sign Taurus values the environment and will do everything possible to preserve it, even if that only extends to their immediate surroundings.

Practical, reliable, patient, persistent, solid, determined, industrious, strong willed, sensuous, affectionate, warm hearted, trustworthy.

The dark side
Unfortunately the Taurean personality can be so committed to self preservation and so cautious in their approach to matters that they can become tedious and boring! Many people seem prepared to brave this tedious behavior for an evening of fine food and wine that will always appear at Taurean dinner parties. Taureans at their best are typically strong and silent, but often appear ignorant and willfully obstinate to others.

Lazy, possessive, self-indulgent, dull, inflexible, unoriginal, unimaginative, greedy, stubborn, resentful, hidebound by routine.


the Earthy Virgo Character

Aug 23 - Sept 22

Virgo THE VIRGIN is the sign of the critic, the technician
Virgo, you may be shy, introverted, and self-conscious on the surface, but when love comes your way, you relax and blossom! Virgos find it hard to express love, they have a thoughtful approach and always look before they leap.

The bright side
The Virgo character is marked by a sharp intellect which is typically used to analyze the natural order. Virgos are methodical, oh so precise, and are attracted to only that knowledge that can be applied usefully. They will happily share this information with anyone, it confirms their own usefulness in the world, and brings them eagerly out of there shells. Virgo pursues very how standards born out of realism and a tight grip on their environment, rather than any chase of high ideals.
Caution is a Virgo trait which if used positively will give them a fine sense of discrimination between practical ideas and those to be left in the sky. Virgos will usually develop this skill to improve themselves and their surroundings as they place great pride in tangible achievements.

Discriminating, fastidious, analytical, meticulous, modest, precise.

The dark side
In their urge to label, organize, and precisely understand all things in life, Virgo can become rather obsessed with the whole idea of "order". Anything that upsets this harmony and understanding could expose them to the terrors of the unknown! For Virgos "there is a place for everything, and everything has its place". Virgo will do anything to achieve this state.

Fussy, self conscious, cynical, hypercritical, finicky, over-conforming, over cautious at times.


the Earthy Capricorn Character

Dec. 22 - Jan 19

Capricorn THE GOAT is the sign of the achiever
If Capricorns manage to conquer their natural reserve and shyness they can make terrific partners. Although they are cautious and introverted, they can be very faithful once in a relationship. They really need a partner who will support them emotionally, while giving them a much needed boost in confidence.

The bright side
One of Capricorns best assets is its sense of humor, this is often needed in their efforts to impose some kind of order on the world around them. Although the humor is dry, it does at least involve contact with others, something that the self contained Capricorn does not excel at. What Capricorn is very good at are those tasks that other signs, (except the other earth signs), find rather tedious. Capricorn is prudent, reliable and disciplined., practical, and ambitious. Capricorn knows exactly what they want and the best way to go about getting it. This is a fordable combination and its likely they will achieve all their
goals. Capricorns tend to take life very seriously and are extremely realistic. In close friendships, partnerships and love matters Capricorns are loyal, devoted and capable of handling any situation that arises.

Reliable, determined, ambitious, careful, prudent, disciplined, hard working, persevering.

The dark side
Capricorns can be extremely rigid and pessimistic in their outlook, being gloomy, depressed and depressing in their interactions with others. They can also be emotionally cold and inhibited. The prudent and cautious side of their nature can be taken to extremes resulting in the unsociable realm of the miser. They distrust anything spontaneous.

Rigid, holds grudges, over exacting, pessimistic, too conventional, reserved.


the Airy Gemini Character

May 21 - June 20

Gemini THE TWINS is the sign of the storyteller, the communicator
Geminis are widely known for their dual personalities and ability to change mood from moment to moment. Although they hate to be tied down, they make lively, entertaining and romantic partners, even if they can be rather fickle if bored or unhappy.
Natural communicators, Geminis do not suffer fools gladly; so once they are attracted to people, they have to ensure that they are not dull or mundane. They will no doubt spend ages chatting to them about every subject under the sun, just to keep feeding that ever active and inquisitive mind.

The bright side
Bright, witty, adaptable and quick to react.
Very little troubles a Gemini or stops the relentless talking for long! Geminis can argue their way into or out of any situation. Having an active curiosity, Gemini is excellent at gathering all kinds of information and gossip. They excel at regurgitating this information in a constant stream, but not necessarily in a logical or understandable order! Geminis are capable of tackling almost anything, so long as they do not become bored. The difficulty lies in what subject to concentrate on today, Gemini is always engaged in two subjects or jobs at once.

Versatile, adaptable, intellectual, witty, charming, logical, energetic, spontaneous, lively, chatty, amusing, youthful, up-to-date.

The dark side
Geminis biggest faults are inconsistency and superficiality. People never know what to expect with Gemini, indeed they can be relied upon to do almost anything, in any situation. All that talking and instant reactions leaves little time for deeper thinking and planning, and too much whizzing about and quick reactions usually leads to sudden mental overload!

Changeable, restless, cunning, inquisitive, inconsistent, fickle, two-faced, fidgety, superficial, gossipy, scattered, transparent.


the Airy Libra Character

Sept 23 - Oct 22

Libra THE SCALES is the sign of the diplomat and the ditherer
Falling in love comes naturally to Librans, whose reason for living centers upon happy and enduring relationships. A life without love is just not worth contemplating, Libra can not function without someone special, for they long for emotional security. Problems arise when the reality does not match the ideal, and a complete inability to make a binding decision about relationships, (or anything else for that matter).

The bright side
Libra is easy going, charming and pleasant, all relationships are important to Libra, this sign simply can not do without other people, and makes an excellent party host. Libra is a sign that values peace at all costs, and is very fair minded. People like being around Librans, for in the event of a dispute they will seek a compromise. A word of caution on this compromise though, for things may not be what they seem, Librans can if they wish charm the birds from the trees!

Charming, easy going, romantic, diplomatic, idealistic, refined, in love with love.

The dark side
Oh the indecisiveness is famous! Librans either sit on the fence, (attempting to appear pleasing to all parties), or they swing wildly from one side of the argument to the other, (and not necessarily dependent on who they are talking to!)
This is not the most reliable of signs, either in what they should do, or in maintaining any particular view point. They are often accused of being two faced. Beneath that charming exterior it is less well known, and stealthily concealed that they are very self centered, and insist on getting their own way, (whatever that is today).

Indecisive, resentful, frivolous, changeable, flirtatious, easily influenced, highly susceptible to flattery.


the Airy Aquarius Character

Jan 20 - Feb 18

Aquarius THE WATER BEARER is the sign of the thinker
Aquarians are extremely independent, they just will not be tied down for long. Their firm views and opinions can change to stubbornness if they are pushed into a corner. Nevertheless they are very faithful and supportive in the right relationship. Even though they may get thoroughly involved within a relationship Aquarians need to preserve their privacy and independence.

The bright side
Aquarians are usually lively, inventive and oh so original! Sailing in the opposite direction to the crowd comes naturally to Aquarius, in fact this does not worry them, as they are always out of step with the world because they think ahead of their time and revel in anything different. As Aquarius thinks today. so the world will think tomorrow. Aquarius is the most happily eccentric sign in the zodiac. Although it can be very difficult to get close to an Aquarian, this fixed sign is loyal and faithful.
Should you ask an Aquarian for help, you will immediately get it, and all promises will be kept (at some point in the future). However please note that a helpful Aquarian is very averse to being deliberately used. Aquarius is adept at taking information from several channels and processing all the numbers to see the big picture, and they do this while you think they are ignoring you! Sometimes this information is seemingly detected on their own private radar.

Humanitarian, friendly, independent, quirky, willing, progressive, an original thinker, inventive, creative, loyal, idealistic yet rational.

The dark side
Aquarians are very unpredictable, they can be chaotic or calm, stubborn or flexible, rebellious or helpful depending on how they feel and what their own senses tell them. This is a sign which can in extremes be totally dedicated to being unconventional, being wired the other way round.
This is a sign which can become detached to the point of coldness, stuck in a rigid and unrecognizable pattern. Aquarius has no care for what the world thinks and logically pursues their own set of social values. The isolation this brings is often a surprise, despite the super reliance on other senses, they can miss the obvious.

Very unpredictable, eccentric, rebellious, contrary, tactless, stubborn, perverse, emotionally oblivious.


the Watery Cancer Character

June 21 - July 22

Cancer THE CRAB is the sign of the protector, the parent
Emotions are a very important part in the life of a Cancerian. Although naturally defensive and very afraid of being hurt, they put their hearts and soul in to relationships and are faithful, loving and loyal partners.

The bright side
At best Cancerians are sensitive, kind and sympathetic, with an absolute urge to nurture and protect people around them. This is most apparent with home and family. So lies the soft side of Cancer, but there is a hard side too, they can be very enterprising, shrewd, and self-assured.
When all is in tune Cancerians are intuitive, imaginative and resourceful, knowing instinctively when to reach others and when to withdraw into their protective shell.

Kind, sensitive, sympathetic, imaginative, maternal/paternal, solicitous, protective, cautious, patriotic, tenacious, shrewd, thrifty, resourceful, a good homemaker.

The dark side
Cancer has a deep inferiority complex, any hurt (both real and imagined), is brooded upon at length. Cancerians tend to look back at, and hold on to things from the past, they can be very possessive. They are inherently conservative in their outlook, but this does not get in the way of initiating change where they deem necessary.

Over emotional, hypersensitive, moody, devious, changeable, self-pitying, unforgiving, unstable, gullible, untidy.


the Watery Scorpio Character

Oct 23 - Nov 21

Scorpio THE SCORPION is the sign of the investigator
The intensity and passion generated by Scorpio makes them an unforgettable partner in love. They take there love affairs very seriously, which can lead to much jealousy. They are also very secretive which can make it hard for them to confront romantic problems.

The bright side
Scorpios have very intense personalities with hidden depths, though they have great compassion being able to reach out to troubled people.
Being deeply emotional themselves, Scorpios understand and accept the feelings that other signs cannot handle. Scorpio is not afraid in the dark, this sign often makes an ideal therapist. Many doctors and surgeons are Scorpios. They have incredible personal magnetism and often make loyal, devoted, friends and lovers.

Powerful feelings and emotions, committed, loyal, imaginative, discerning, subtle, persistent, determined.

The dark side
Scorpios have a hidden and secretive side. They are not averse to using their deep understanding of others to gain power over them for their own ends. Scorpio has a fascination for power, how it is used and how to hold other people with it.
Sometimes this can extend to cruelty, Scorpio is vindictive and brooding, a sign that never forgets a grudge. Scorpio is prone to having an inner self destruct button, which they push compulsively from time to time.

Over emotional, hypersensitive, moody, devious, changeable, self-pitying, unforgiving, unstable, gullible, untidy.


the Watery Pisces Character

Feb 19 - Mar 20

Pisces THE FISH is the sign of the dreamer
The most idealistic, romantic and poetic sign, Pisceans are only too happy to lose themselves in their relationships. Being loved is vital to their well-being. They are very caring, and make compassionate and reflective partners.

The bright side
Piscean sensitivity is so finely tuned that it reacts like blotting paper to the atmosphere. When nursing the sick, for instance, Pisceans are apt to reflect a patient's own symptoms themselves. Indeed, Pisceans often have problems defining the boundaries between fact and fiction in general.
Pisces is empathetic and compassionate, and cannot bear to see another living being in pain. Indeed, Pisceans feel very deeply about other people as they do not have a strong sense of separation and individuality.
Pisces is an intuitive sign which can receive great inspiration. Pisceans are thus the natural mediums and mystics of the zodiac who can communicate their inner vision through either the arts or the sciences, or caring professions. Pisces can also be a sign of selfless or self-sacrificing devotion, and is capable of truly unconditional love for others.

Artistic, kind, sympathetic, intuitive, visionary, sensitive, adaptable, receptive.

The dark side
The Pisces personality has a number of sub personalities who are likely to take over at the drop of a hat. They include the victim, the martyr and the savior or rescuer; and once Pisces gets locked into these patterns, it can be very difficult to shift. This can be hard on other people involved, too, for Pisceans can inflict or receive, considerable suffering when they enter into a guilt ridden phase. Pisceans tend to be too imaginative for their own good, and serve their own good even if they believe themselves that they are serving others.

Impractical, vague, careless, spiteful, manipulative, confused, weak-willed, indecisive, easily led astray.






Andy: LEO
  • Generous
  • Humorous
  • quick-tempered
  • Sweet
  • romantic
  • Handsome
  • Intelligent
  • Leadership
  • Likes to be Center Stage (especially with his career)
  • Stubborn

Ephram: CANCER

- Intelligent
- Humorous
- Sensitive
- Artistic
- Passionate
- Volatile (with his dad)
- Anti-Social
- Hot
- Very very clean
- Quick-witted
- Peacemaker (especially with Delia and Amy)
- Stubborn
- Independent

Delia: AQUARIUS

1. Tomboyish
2. Athletic
3. Smart
4. Sweet
5. Loving
6. Independent.
7. Mature (while she gets mixed up in the popular high school stuff, I do think that she's always been mature for her age.)
8. Religious. Hmm. Not the term I'm looking for, but something to show that she's connected to Julia, and she often uses her religion to do that. What do I look like, an English major?
9. Family Oriented.(loved and needed a mom figure/more interaction with Ephram & Andy)



Julia: CAPRICORN


1. Humanitarian
2. Affectionate
3. Warm
4. Generous
5. Patient (she put up with Andy & Ephram!), forgiving (of Andy's workaholic tendencies)
6. Peace-maker (tried to smooth things over between Andy & Ephram, even from beyond the grave)
7. A a good listener
8. Hard-working (she's pretty much a single parent as Andy was always working when she was alive)
9. Sociable and nurturing...
10. Independent
11. Wonderful mother... could have won mother of a year, she was so adored by Delia and Ephram.
12.Very Strong
13. Authoritative
14.I think she was also very down to earth, practical, efficient. Look at how she handles the Stephanie situation, getting the info, going to the restaurant with Ephram. You could tell she handled so much in the house too, and was very organized. She was smart, strong, independant.



Nina: CANCER

1. Kind
2. Loyal
3. understanding
4. Thoughtful
5. Maternal (I guess that that sounds obvious because she's, you know, a mother, hee, but it's not just Sam. She takes care of Delia too, and Ephram, and others.)
6. Caring
7. Hot.
8. Good people-person (Especially in terms of giving advice.)
9. Passive & lacking in self confidence with men (at times).


Amy CAPRICORN
1. Strong willed/Stubborn
2. Intelligent
3. Romantic (always seemed to "get into" her boyfriends with thoughtful gifts).
4. Devoted/Loyal
5. Intellectualized Emotion (I have it, too, which is why I think she's an earth sign... we are not super emotional in the literal sense, but it's a heavy intellectual side that seeps into the emotional as opposed to the Sagittarius individual who goes with the pure intellect)
6. Hard Working
7. Not neat
8. Conservative about romantic partners. Not promiscuous
9. Analytical (Just in the way she researches things, like Huntington's Disease for example.)
10. Tunnel vision when it comes to boyfriends (Not always a bad thing, but it has been with Amy for the most part.)
11. Hot.
12. Independent.
13. Socially/Politically Liberal


Harold: VIRGO
1.Pompous
2.Socially and politically conservative
3. Loving (family-oriented)
4.Stubborn
5. Eccentric
6. Hard Working
7. Serious
8. Rough exterior at times but very sensitive internally (not sure how to phrase that)
9. Intellectual
10. Intelligent
11. Witty
12. Loyal (especially loyal friend to Andy)


Bright SAGITTARIUS

1. Witty
2. Charming
3. Devoted friend to Ephram (season 2 to the rest of the series)
4. Athletic
5. Loving (with family and girlfriend)
6. Bullyish
7. Confident (socially and athletically.....but not always academically).
8. Popular
9. At times, irresponsible
10. Sometimes weak in character/integrity. Easily gives into instant gratification.
1. Loves sex. JK Or maybe? I don't know how to word that. Hee.
12. Can cheat obviously.
13. Caring
14. Sweet (when he's not be a bully, anyway)
15. Family-orientated

15 is because he loves his mom and dad, and he's a total momma' boy.


Rose: TAURUS

1. Serious.
2. Loving mother and wife.
3. Supportive.
4. Strong (we saw that throughout her illness)
5. Hard working (at home and held a great job for a long while)
6. Smart
7. Strict (with Amy...not Bright)
8. Caring (even to those outside her family, like Ephram or Hannah.)
9. Gives great advice.
10. Patient is one I guess

Laynie:

1. Sarcastic
2. Dark
3. Caring friend
4. Funny.
5. Nonconformist.
6. Curious.
7. Smart
8. Quick-witted
9. Wordly (I always had a sense that she seemed bigger than Everwood but never could express it much unless she was with Ephram)
10. Interesting/Energetic (she always had a way about her where your eyes were focused on her energy somehow)
11. Fun.


Colin:


1. Popular
2. Attractive
3. Athletic
4. Confident
5. Cocky
6. Outgoing
7. Emotional (not in the crying way, hee, but just that he's full of emotions.)
8. Can become jealous
9. Tries to be a control freak (when he's jealous).


Hannah:

1. Shy
2. Conservative
3. Serious
4. Not the party goer
5. Intelligent
6. Good writer
7. Loyal friend
8. Judgmental (just a bit, like the party side of Bright, Amy's liberal views)
9. Religious
10. Sheltered.
11. Witty.
12. Unsure of herself at first, but growing a confidence later on.
13. Independent.
14. Likes her "me" time.
15. Strong (I think this was a trait that developed later for her but I love how she didn't take Bright back right away after his cheating, she even didn't totally take him back at the end of the series even if it was insinuated which I love)
16. Down to earth. Has to be since she's Minnesotan, hee.
17. Is true to her convictions...no matter what anyone else thinks.
18. Pretty with "geeky" traits which was an adorably unique combination.


Edna:


1.Tough
2. Stubborn
3. Emotional
4. Gives excellent advice
5. Caring
6. Blunt
7. Strong
8. Tomboyish
9. Family oriented
10. Hard Worker
11. Sarcastic
12. Serious/dry wit (reminds me of the earth sign Capricorn who has both going on at the same time)
13. Practical
14. Intelligent
15. Stubborn (Michelle wants to make sure that we know that Edna was Stubborn!)


Irv:


1. Warm
2. Talented (writer)
3. Nice (I loved how sweet he was to Delia in season 1)
4. Selfless (sacrificing staying in Everwood for Edna)
5. Stubborn (he is not a good patient necessarily whenever sick)
6. Nasty sense of humor.
7. Adventurous (liked to travel).
8. Great with words
9. Emotional (I feel like I've put that for everyone, and I guess it fits for everyone, heh)
10. Likes his quiet/alone time. (The cabin).
11. Can be difficult and demanding (With Edna..when she wasn't ready to retire and travel).


Madison:

1. Efficient
2. Intelligent
3. Opinionated
4. Outspoken
5. Blunt
6. Immature even if she thought she wasn't.
7. Independent
8. Caring (especially to Delia)
9. Careless



Linda:
1. A humanitarian
2. Sweet
3. Loving
4. Independent.
5. Hard-working.
6. Knows what she wants and usually gets it.
7. Intelligent
8. Into holistic medicine (this can be very prominent with certain signs)
9. Strong
10. Unique and likes being unique.
11. Understanding (she was really understanding as to why Andy needed to break up with her.)


Reid


1. Depression tendencies (understatement I know lol)
2. Physically fit
3. Sweet
4. Intense (when he's under stress!)
5. Complicated
6. Intelligent
7. Obsessive
8. Altruistic (thinking of what he's doing for his brother...if it was his brother?)
9. More than meets the eye (Looks like just eye candy, really was mostly eye candy, but then he gets a couple of great moments of great insight with Ephram)
10. Ethically weak (cheating when in a panic mode).
11. Vulnerable.
12. Hides his true emotions (puts on a happy front)
13. Sensitive
.



Amanda:

1. Selfish
2. Evil Nauseating Ew Vulnerable.
3. Independent.
4. Complicated.
5. Sexy/Slimy (depending on your point of view)
6. Terribly flawed.
7. More than meets the eye.
8. Loyal.... when she has to be (stuck by her husband in the end.)
9. A relaxed/laid back mother.


Will:

1) Talented
2) Wise
3) Stubborn
4) Gruff
5. Volatile (when angered)
6) Snarky sense of humour
7) Appreciates hard work
8. Good teacher




Kyle:

1. Smart
2. Sarcastic
3. Talented
4. Shy
5. Sensitive
6. Emotional--especially angry and mopey
7. Secretive
8. Good Looking
9. Weirdly funny



Wendell:

1. Resourseful/Crafty (Well, he got the job done...and he got the DVD player).
2. Likes being mysterious
3. Individualist (style wise)
4. Individualist in general as well
5. Always in the know
6. Good friend
7. Well connected.
8. Smart (He was in the honors science class).
9. Witty



Reverend Keyes:
1. Pious
2. A good friend
3. Caring
4. Eloquent.

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Julia:


1. Humanitarian
2. Affectionate
3. Warm
4. Generous
5. Patient (she put up with Andy & Ephram!), forgiving (of Andy's workaholic tendencies)
6. Peace-maker (tried to smooth things over between Andy & Ephram, even from beyond the grave)
7. A a good listener
8. Hard-working (she's pretty much a single parent as Andy was always working when she was alive)
9. Sociable and nurturing...
10. Independent
11. Wonderful mother... could have won mother of a year, she was so adored by Delia and Ephram.


Okay....these are Julia's characteristics. It's a great list. Let's think about the list and come up with a sign.
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Thanks for the new thread, Betty!

Okay, thinking caps are on...

BTW, Alex will be here to comment on Julia. I am putting the pressure on her and since she kind of likes me, it's a done deal. YAY, the power of emotional manipulation, heh.
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That is super, Michelle! And then she'll get to revisit our stunning opening post.
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Exactly!

She was actually going to post now but it was too late since her eyes were closing but tomorrow! Also, I am exaggerating a bit in that I'm not twisting her arm too much, heh. She told to me to remind her tomorrow and she will get here.

We did both decide one thing just now:

We don't believe Julia is remotely a Fire sign so that is our vote on what she is not so far, heh.
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Thanks for the new thread, Betty!

Okay, thinking caps are on...

BTW, Alex will be here to comment on Julia. I am putting the pressure on her and since she kind of likes me, it's a done deal. YAY, the power of emotional manipulation, heh.


Thanks for the new thread, Betty!

And I agree with you and Alex, Mitch, that Julia is definitely not a Fire sign. I see lots of earthy qualities to her, actually. I really do. But I have to think about it more.
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Though I think we can all agree Julia was a wonderful mother, I still think she was a very strong women, and therefore not the mother hen type (not sure about the word here, but I hope you get my point). You could tell she loved their kids and they loved her, but that she had lots of authority too. And no matter what, she had to be able to handle Andy so that shows strength of character too. It almost could be perceived as blunt/coldness.
I would think she was an earth sign, definitely not fire.

I think she was also very down to earth, practical, efficient. Look at how she handles the Stephanie situation, getting the info, going to the restaurant with Ephram. You could tell she handled so much in the house too, and was very organized. She was smart, strong, independant.

those are my thoughts. I let the experts think about which sign fits.
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That sounds so hot.

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Though I think we can all agree Julia was a wonderful mother, I still think she was a very strong women, and therefore not the mother hen type (not sure about the word here, but I hope you get my point). You could tell she loved their kids and they loved her, but that she had lots of authority too. And no matter what, she had to be able to handle Andy so that shows strength of character too. It almost could be perceived as blunt/coldness.
I would think she was an earth sign, definitely not fire.

I think she was also very down to earth, practical, efficient. Look at how she handles the Stephanie situation, getting the info, going to the restaurant with Ephram. You could tell she handled so much in the house too, and was very organized. She was smart, strong, independant.

those are my thoughts. I let the experts think about which sign fits.
Ohhhhhh see why I love my intellectual Frenchie on this thread and everywhere else on the board? Because of posts like the one above.

I entirely agree with you. I felt Earth sign, too, and obviously so does Erin from what you said above. Great thoughts!

Capricorns are loyal, dedicated to the family, too. Their family is their world in many ways and they fight tooth and nail if anyone insults one their family members, they help family members, there is nothing they won't do for family.

You are so perceptive on Julia being a wonderful mother and also holding a lot of power and strength at the same time. Lets be frank, someone who could handle at the time very arrogant Andy deserves an award. LOL. Granted, they ended up having marital problems but overall before this she held the family together and never once did she stop being a terrific mother to Ephram and Delia at any time. She was an outstanding mother to them, and a wife for Andy who was anything but passive, she had strength and was extremely independent at the same time. She could do it all.

When you said this:

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I think she was also very down to earth, practical, efficient. Look at how she handles the Stephanie situation, getting the info, going to the restaurant with Ephram. You could tell she handled so much in the house too, and was very organized. She was smart, strong, independent.
You are describing a big time Earth sign here. Look at your wording, it's alllllllll Earthy.

I completely agree with your assessment. I am not sure if she's totally Capricorn but I don't feel she is a Taurus although she could be Virgo. I am juggling either Capricorn or Virgo at the moment.

So to sum for Alex and I, so far we vote for Julia being an Earth sign.

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Julia:


1. Humanitarian
2. Affectionate
3. Warm
4. Generous
5. Patient (she put up with Andy & Ephram!), forgiving (of Andy's workaholic tendencies)
6. Peace-maker (tried to smooth things over between Andy & Ephram, even from beyond the grave)
7. A a good listener
8. Hard-working (she's pretty much a single parent as Andy was always working when she was alive)
9. Sociable and nurturing...
10. Independent
11. Wonderful mother... could have won mother of a year, she was so adored by Delia and Ephram.
12.Very Strong
13. Authoritative
14.I think she was also very down to earth, practical, efficient. Look at how she handles the Stephanie situation, getting the info, going to the restaurant with Ephram. You could tell she handled so much in the house too, and was very organized. She was smart, strong, independant.


Alex, I have added your wonderful additions.
We're going to have to Manipulate you more often.
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Hmm my guess is that was solely Michelle's "emotional manipulation" because no one could guide strong Alex unless her name was Michelle so I think all the credit goes to Mitch.

Michelle & Alex, terrific thoughts. You guys are a great combo.

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Though I think we can all agree Julia was a wonderful mother, I still think she was a very strong women, and therefore not the mother hen type (not sure about the word here, but I hope you get my point). You could tell she loved their kids and they loved her, but that she had lots of authority too. And no matter what, she had to be able to handle Andy so that shows strength of character too. It almost could be perceived as blunt/coldness.
I would think she was an earth sign, definitely not fire.
You described an Earth signed woman perfectly. The love is there in buckets but there is also a sense of strength beyond comprehension. Very Earthy. I am convinced, Julia is an Earth sign. I agree with you guys. It was my first impression for sure which is why I posted what I did last night.

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I think she was also very down to earth, practical, efficient. Look at how she handles the Stephanie situation, getting the info, going to the restaurant with Ephram. You could tell she handled so much in the house too, and was very organized. She was smart, strong, independant.

those are my thoughts. I let the experts think about which sign fits.
More clues to her being an Earth sign. She handled that situation with Ephram with ease, in an Earthy, systematic manner. Absolutely.

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Lets be frank, someone who could handle at the time very arrogant Andy deserves an award. LOL.
Absolutely! Andy was at his Fire sign dictating arrogant best during this time period and Julia never flinched. She pulled away from him but never did she go passive. Nope.

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Granted, they ended up having marital problems but overall before this she held the family together and never once did she stop being a terrific mother to Ephram and Delia at any time.
That's right and if you look at Earth sign parents, mothers in particular, they are completely outstanding at being there for their children, taking care of ALL of their needs effortlessly, in a smooth manner, and they have much love for them at the same time. Ephram and Delia felt a sense of comfort and that is another Earth sign quality. You feel a loyalty and that is your trademark, Michelle, and I'm sure Alex agrees, hee. You feel like you are being taken care of by an Earth sign, namely a Capricorn, because they are so loyal and dedicated to you. Not in a weak passive way, they just are "all in" and you feel that and know it.

I really think Julia is a Capricorn. I am convinced. Even over Virgo because Virgos are much too serious sometimes. They get uptight even if they are strong. They aren't able to DO IT ALL like the Capricorn. Not so much even if Caps and Virgos are very alike. The Capricorn IS the strongest sign in the Zodiac. I think this fits Julia perfectly. We didn't get to see Julia's Capricorn wit since she wasn't on the screen enough but I would say how she helped Ephram with Gwen Stefani, hee, in season 1 is pretty Capricorn with the wit and loyalty, being so helpful and caring.

I am with Michelle & Alex that Julia is an Earth sign and I will even go a step further and say my vote is Julia is a Capricorn.
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Well, like I just said to Mich on chat, Julia makes me think of her sister in terms of what kind of mother she is, and she's... capricorn, so that makes sense with what everyone's saying.
Maybe not as freaky a capricorn as Mich though
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Well, like I just said to Mich on chat, Julia makes me think of her sister in terms of what kind of mother she is, and she's... capricorn, so that makes sense with what everyone's saying.
Maybe not as freaky a capricorn as Mich though
BINGO! And regarding the not as freaky a Capricorn as Michelle.

Well, you should know best about this and so another great example of why Julia screams Capricorn.

Is she like a Super Mom? Always there for them but working out of the home, being able to do everything efficiently and timely, caring for everyones needs? That makes sense.

Great, example, Alex!
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Yes, Julia does have many of the Capricorn traits. But...she doesn't have all them. I don't see Julia as being shy and reserved. She is very sociable and confident.
I also do not see her as a holder of grudges. She could have easily been totally and eternally upset with Andy because of his neglect of her and her kids. But....instead...she would defend him...especially to Ephram when he ranted and complained about his dad. She appeared to be very forgiving....unless it was all an act for Ephram's benefit.
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I feel she did that with Ephram because it's all about the family first, That is pure Capricorn. Loyalty to FAMILY. She even defended Andy, you said it and certainly she doesn't want her children to separate from their father.

She internally held a grudge for Andy. She even cheated. That was her internal holding of a grudge. She didn't divorce because Caps don't want or like divorce but her holding the grudge was the cheating part.

I'm not sure if we can say what her exact personality is out and about because we didn't see her with friends really. We only saw her with family. So we don't know how she was around strangers, really, so I think it's premature to say she is not shy or reserved around people other than family.

Capricorns are also magnets. People surround them because, that's just how it is. So Capricorns can SEEM social but deep inside they need some space. I remember reading right on this thread about how Fire signs demand attention but it's the Capricorn who is surrounded by attention without even wanting it, certainly not needing it, necessarily.

Just my two cents.

We might be at a standstill here because I strongly believe she's an Earth Sign Capricorn and it seems Mitch and Alex do too. Betty doesn't.

I guess we need more opinions then.

ETA: Capricorns are also very confident people. Just because they have a tendency to pull in and want to be reserved doesn't mean they are not confident with who they are and what they are about, what they do.
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Well, like I just said to Mich on chat, Julia makes me think of her sister in terms of what kind of mother she is, and she's... capricorn, so that makes sense with what everyone's saying.
Maybe not as freaky a capricorn as Mich though
<3 Awe, you so love me. LOL.

You're absolutely right, though. My sister is A LOT like Julia as a mother. Totally. Carbon copies.

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Is she like a Super Mom? Always there for them but working out of the home, being able to do everything efficiently and timely, caring for everyones needs?
Yes, yes and more yes. She is Super Mom, she is always there for them, she runs on about 3-4 hours of sleep a night, she has a full-time job, she does everything efficiently and perfectly. She cares for them, her loyalty is in excess, she can do it all and has this tremendous strength that never ends, which is why she's definitely my idol.

So yes, she is the textbook definition of Capricorn, my sister. Definitely. Which makes sense because that's her Sun sign, heh. Alex is totally right on.
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