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You guys said it amazingly well already, so all I can come in and say is that I agree, Nina is a Cancer. She really does put her heart and her soul into relationships. And unfortunately, none of them (before Andy) have worked out. She gets so hurt because she puts so much into these relationships, and she gets Carl who lied and cheated and was gay and was absentee and everything. And Jake who also lied and focused on himself too much later in the relationship. It's almost sad that she puts so much of herself into these relationships when she gets so hurt from them, but it's all going to pay off when she she puts so much into the relationship with Andy and it really works out.
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I was just watching the scene in NYC where Madison tells Ephram about the baby, or I should say the scene before that. Yes, I'm not sure why because it makes me so nervous while watching knowing she is going to do the unthinkable by telling him the day before the audition. Anyway, Ephram is rambling on about how he learned many lessons from her and he's glad she kicked his ass because Amy only has to kick it half as much. Then he thanks her... and he goes, "I'm made of cheese."
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I know I have been in and out of this thread and I hope to be here more often but I want to say I agree with every sign that has been picked:
Julia is definitely Capricorn to me. I see it so very clearly and Alex is right about Michelle's sister being a perfect image of Julia, the mother. SuperMom is the best way to describe it. I agree about Nina being Cancer. She is way too mellow to be Fire, she's too emotional to be Earth and Air for that matter. She's a Water sign and Cancer fits her best. Great point, Michelle, about how Ephram/Nina could relate to each other so easily. I also think it is interesting that Capricorn and Cancer are opposites but compatible and Andy was with Julia and then Nina. Nina also had such a maternal love for Sam and then for Ephram/Delia. It was so wonderful to see. Nina never overstepped with Ephram/Delia either. She just showed them love and caring and was always available. That is one of the greatest traits of a Cancer, showing that pure love that is always received. My vote goes to Nina as Cancer. |
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Thanks so much, Katie. So glad to see you back. Our next character is Amy. Amy 1. Strong willed/Stubborn 2. Intelligent 3. Romantic (always seemed to "get into" her boyfriends with thoughtful gifts). 4. Devoted/Loyal 5. Intellectualized Emotion (I have it, too, which is why I think she's an earth sign... we are not super emotional in the literal sense, but it's a heavy intellectual side that seeps into the emotional as opposed to the Sagittarius individual who goes with the pure intellect) 6. Hard Working 7. Not neat 8. Conservative about romantic partners. Not promiscuous 9. Analytical (Just in the way she researches things, like Huntington's Disease for example.) 10. Tunnel vision when it comes to boyfriends (Not always a bad thing, but it has been with Amy for the most part.) 11. Hot. 12. Independent. 13. Socially/Politically Liberal Here are her personality traits. Let's start thinking. |
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Heh, I definitely see Amy as an Earth sign. She does have "intellectualized emotion" and that is specifically a Capricorn trait. I won't jump the gun and say Capricorn for sure but I see Amy in me A LOT, both good and bad. LOL.
Her conservative traits with romance, her analyzing, hard working, independent, intelligent, strong-willed, loyal are EARTHY. If you look over the list Amy is textbook Earth sign. It's almost scary how much. Alex said right away she was an Earth sign whenever we superficially started talking about the characters traits before this project got started. I am very interested in what Louisa has to say about Amy as well as everyone else! |
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Betty, here we go with the Capricorn holding grudes… Amy held a grudge against Ephram for how long regarding the Madison band lie. He was in the doghouse forever.
Amy also uses sarcasm whenever she is upset, a huge trait! Capricorns, especially, whenever they are upset and have to use emotion attempt to get out of dealing with emotion by being all depressing, negative and sarcastic. Amy showed that in spades off and on. Her loyalty with Colin is classic Earth sign Capricorn. Capricorns never leave people they love. They have to be pushed off a cliff in order to do so. Her views on sex are so classic Cap. Oh man. Even the hotness factor… Caps are hot and so was Amy which probably makes significant others of Capricorns a bit frustrated since the sex will not happen until they are good and ready and it will also not happen in general every two seconds either. But Caps are hard workers so I’m sure they are very good in bed when they do go there and I can’t believe I just said that. |
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Hmm. I'm having a tough time figuring out Amy's sign so far! At least on the descriptions on the first page, the Capricorn and Virgo descriptions focus quite a bit on being introverted and shy, and Amy's never been an introvert, hee. Taurus doesn't have any of the introverted/shy focuses, but then there's talk about laziness and dull, which Amy certainly isn't either. Maybe I'm getting hung up on a few terms, though?
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Amy also, on the negative side, had a tendency to sometimes look at the negatives, especially in the first two seasons (obviously). Cold and inhibited, not so much, but rigid is a good one. Amy got her father's stubborness, hee. So, yeah, I would probably lean towards Capricorn for now, but that introverted trait which is a big focus in the description on the first page is going to bug me a bit. __________________
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The inverted trait is a good point... whenever I said I related to Amy a lot that even went with being in the popular group but always feeling sort of out of place at the same time. That was so me, too. I hung around the jocks and popular kids and went with it because I thought it was expected and natural but I was introverted at the same time. Very removed. I only wanted to cherish the close friendships I had with a few people in our group and that is what ended up happening. Amy ends up doing the same even if her depression instigated it, but we see in season 1 she was never ultimately happy and comfortable hanging with those people. She ends up becoming close friends with Hannah, who is all about being introverted, which is interesting, I think, and has a boyfriend and guy she ends up with who is a lot like Hannah, too. She never cared about the social thing with either Ephram or Hannah. She was content being with them one on one whenever you know she could have hung out at parties and social scenes all the time instead.
So while I don't see Amy as 100% truly introverted I also don't see her as an actual social butterfly either. |
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Your points are excellent, Michelle. I never looked at Amy like that...but now that you mention it....she wasn't a social butterfly. We don't know what she was like with Colin freshman year...but Sophomore year...when the show started.....she didn't really seem comfortable with her friends. A lot of her not wanting to socialize had to do with her sadness over Colin...but even in college....she wasn't very social. You would think that she would attend every party....have loads of friends hanging around.....but she didn't. She felt a little lost.....and when she finally did go to a party....she took Ephram as her wing man. She needed him to feel more confident. 'Tos, what I realized from a previous character....it's really difficult to find a character with every single characteristic of a sign. I think that if he/she shows most of the sign's personality trait....that's probably the one. |
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I agree that Amy wasn't a social butterfly, but that she was certainly an extrovert too. I think she grew further and further from Ms. Popular and by S4 was remarking how hard it was to make friends. Which is a really cool story. But it wasn't about the amount of friends anymore, it was about the quality. Hannah, great quality friend, Bright, Ephram too. It's a good group. But she never lost those extrovert roots, which makes sense too. I just find a hard time buying her as shy, hee, but, yeah, that's a great point about her not being a social butterfly much after S1 either. I love that change that she went through, at the same time as keeping those roots that made her who she was in S1 too. It's a good story! You can grow in some ways, but you're never going to completely switch who you are either. Amy would always be an extrovert, but also grew so that she didn't have to be the popular one anymore and focused on better friends instead of more of them.
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This is a good discussion. I believe that, Michelle and '[B]Tos [/B,] the issue here is your interpretation of the work Extrovert.
Some people consider an Extrovert as one being the life of the party with the lampshade on his/her head (ala Bright at the college party). Others may consider an Extrovert as being social, confident, and outgoing. It's a matter of interpretation. Here is a definition that I found for the word Extrovert.: Quote:
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Thanks, Betty. That's an excellent definition! That's what I think when I'm talking about introversion/extroversion, but absolutely, everyone has their own interpretation and even the definitions seem to mix outgoing with being energized alone or with others, hee. It's a confusing trait! Especially since Amy progressed from one part of the spectrum to another, closer and closer to introversion, but still staying, I think, in the part where she was more energized with others than being energized by herself. But since she went through changes, it's hard to pinpoint, you know?
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