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Old 07-26-2005, 09:16 PM
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The Greenies (E/A) #19- Because he DID see a forever!


New thread!

Thanks Michelle for letting me start it I was so torn betwen this title and yours. This one, however, was shorter, so..

*The name Greenies comes from Al Green's song, Let's Stay Together that was mentioned in the pilot.*


1. Because no one really understood her and Ephram came along and he just got it somehow.
2. Because she hasn't been able to take her eyes off him all night.
3. Because She taught him how to ice skate.
4. Because he seemed to be the only one who could make her smile/laugh
5. Cause he's still looking out for her after everything
6. Because she likes his hair
7. Because she thought he was bold out there
8. Because Dream Amy never knew that comics could be so hot
9. Because their song is Al Green's "Let's Stay Together"
10. Because they have the perfect makeout song
11. Because he dreamed about her
12. Because she showed him a bird's eye view of Everwood
13. Because "where [he]come[s] from, girls like [her] don't breathe around guys like [him] without having some sort of secret agenda". She had one...but it didn't matter, because "she's falling in love with him"
14. She digs his "tragic, lonely thing [he's got going on]".
15. Because they are star-crossed lovers, like Romeo and Juliet.
16. ...and if they ever married they could unite their "houses".
17. Because she expected he wouldn't talk to her, so she brought a peace offering.
18. Because he came with her to Denver
19. Because she's sorry if she hurt his feelings
20. Because he found out he's in love with a girl who's in love with a guy in a coma
21. Because he loved her and could refuse her nothing
22. Because she wanted to know the "academic update" on his classes
23. Because she calls him "Hamlet"
24. Because he thinks that for the classic girl-next-door, she has a really warped mind
25. Because she tested out the nickname "Bubba" on him
26. Because according to Bright, Ephram's still getting cozy with his little sis (even though she's spoken for)
27. Because Andy wanted to know how it's going with the Abbott girl
28. Because she's right behind him
29. Because she gave him a ride
30. Because even Delia approves ("You're pretty!")
31. Because she just wanted to say hi
32. Because Delia knew he wanted Amy to be his girlfriend
33. Because she wanted to know if he was going to the thaw
34. Because she's meeting him there
35. Because she asked a future parolee to go with her
36. Because she keeps saying things that make him want to kiss her
37. Because she volunteered to help a clueless guy make thanskgiving special for his sister
38. Because she introduced him to the Milking Man
39. Because, not surprisingly, Ephram's least favorite thing about her is Bright
40. Because they went on the ferris wheel together alone
41. Because she said that Everwood now has its own "duck prince"
42. Because Wendell knows Ephram wants to get his picture up in Amy's locker
43. Because Wendell knows of Ephram's "doomed, albeit noble, romantic pursuit"
44. Because Ephram got his chance to impress Amy
45. Because he's played as long as she's danced
46. Because he said she was amazing
47. Because she asked what he was doing tonight
48. Because even Kayla could tell Amy has a thing for him
49. Because Ephram knows he wants to take a "Caribbean cruise" with Amy
50. Because Edna told Amy it's hard to care about someone when the whole world is telling you not to
51. Because Amy didn't go to Kayla's party
52. Because she thinks it's good that he scares her
53. Because she thinks he's funny, and weird, and a guy in her life she cares about
54. Because she couldn't help feeling sad when he refused to look at her in the hallway
55. Because they decided to stop the back and forth apologies and say that they're sorry forever
56. Because they both understand what it's like to have doctors for fathers
57. Because he told her to ask Colin to the dance- and he drove with her to Denver, too.
58. Because she thanked him for coming with her- it means a lot to her
59. Because she said he wasn't geeky at all
60. Because he lent her a comic book
61. Because he came clean about lying to her
62. Because he hasn't made anything for himself here except her
63. Because she's what makes Everwood home to him
64. Because she thinks it's cool of him to help
65. Because he composed a song for her
66. Because he encouraged Amy to convince the Harts to get Andy's help
67. Because she's the only person he cares about in the whole, stupid town
68. Because he told her if she wanted to talk, he'll be here
69. Because she called him from the hospital
70. Because she wanted to touch base with normal for a moment
71. Because he thinks she's amazing, and beautiful, and completely out of his league
72. Because she's holding up the line
73. Because he wanted to share a Twix with her
74. Because there should be a travel-sized Clue!
75. Because Ephram's considering a career in neurosurgery
76. Because he beat up those guys when they prank called Amy
77. Because they've been siting around waiting for some sort of miracle
78. Because she's shared more with him in the past few months than with anyone in her whole life
79. Because she left Colin at the Spring formal to help a poor defeated boy.
80. Because she was willing to fight with Colin just so that Ephram could feel better
81. Because Laynie dumped Ephram because he loved Amy.
82. Because NY as "pretty much" everything (except for Amy)
83. Because even Bright knows they're soulmates
84. Because if she ever needed him he'd be there and she knows that
85. Because she likes him now
86. Because he knows how to put her first
87. Because no matter what happens, it's Amy
88. Because they're already picking out wedding songs
89. Because they're in love
90. Because he can get through anything... with her by his side
91. Because she's the only one he loves
92. Because she wants to take care of him
93. Because she only wants the best for him
94. Because he can find plenty of ways to be her bitch (from Bright's quote after she got his box of bagels lol)

Gregory Smith as Ephram Brown


Emily Van Camp as Amy Abbott


1. greatfallsfan
2. Din
3. beautifulgarbage
4. The Maria
5. Buttonhead
6. Maliejandra
7. *Ditey*
8. Love Lace
9. iCantBelieveItsNotButter
10. *Shannon*
11. In Fair Verona
12. *~SpikesLilAngel~*
13. Caddie
14. paceyztruelove
15. CosmicKiss
16. ~Kerry~
17. *~Jessabelle~*
18. RORYJESS16
19. KatieHolmesfan1981
20. Amore85
21. S@brina
22. Heather Nicole
23. Tuesday
24. ++Clara++
25. sweet tooth
26. glory fades
27. MusicFreak
28. FeLiNe Th0uGhTs
29. Lit1586
30. Lilac Wine
31. Lyndsi
32. EphramIsHot
33. Jay_10
34. starzsparkle16
35. ephram loves me
36. Jasonsgurl310
37. ~-Sarah-~
38. Lazy
39. Liliya
40. ~Nicole~
41. gunn/Heather
42. Girlfriend
43. Spysid
44. Semmerfan
45. Louloucn
46. BenDreaming
47. ESipher
48. WBFreak
49. hyde&jackie1991
50. Chiltonchick333
51. Niuxita
52. Amy Abbot
53. bency
54. Dawnie@
55. DJ_fanatic
56. QueenBitch
57) True Daisy lover4ever
58) JoozerLoozer
59) ToturedMind
60) gregluver07
61) x*Brooke*x
62) Baby Britney
63) Amy_Am鬩e
64) ~Judu~
65) Just Peachy.
66) kbear49
67) randomalien13
68) B/Slover
69) Mr. Brightside
70) Pace & Jo
71) haydensgirl
72) lilaznangel_17
73) Wilpen
74) bluerose4lyphe
75) COOLCAT200
76) CanonsAreWorthless
77) KaLiPinAy23
78) The Crow
79) Jerry D
80) Time Cannot Erase
81) portkey00
82) Sassyjoy
83) StaringDownTheSun
84) Ruby_Slippers
85) *MaRiGoLd*
86) BrItTaNy62
87) abromokey
88) mysocalledlife
89) detheo
90) konstantine23
91) simplysweet423
92) Callalily
93) cabot007
94) angelface211
95) BrunieGrl
96) daphneejen
97) jadorexme
98) foxybabygirl
99) ergo3
100) OyWithThePoodlesAlready!
101) x0xKayx0x
102) BryanGRocks2004
103) sweetdrmz4
104) JavaJunkiesLove2
105) Forever Eden
106) sblover
107) BehIndxHazELxEyes
108) foxybabygirl
109) ~*twilight*to*starlight*~
110) *Marissa*
111) ThUyN19
112) jjlover01
113) MartyBC
114) martystel
115) evan88
116) Gosling Fan
117) Lor-baby
118) SethxMarissa
119) ~Kissin In The Rain~
120) taressa05
121) Applebehrygrl23
122) IckleEm
123) shinystar
124) Sarja

*If you would like to be added to the list just let me know!*

Fanarts/WP's


by bency


by DJ_fanatic


by dawnie@


// louder than words : a ephram & amy image archive // (it hasn't been updated in a long time but it has some great Ephramy pics)

Back To You -- An Ephramy Multimedia Shrine

Ephramy -- The Ephram Brown and Amy Abbott relationship fanlisting

Surreal Realities - Ephramy fanlisting

Reason; an Ephramy shrine

Forever Friends __ The Emily VanCamp and Gregory Smith Fanlisting

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:28 PM
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Alan Also love your icon. I'm a BtVS fan too.

Thanks. I'm more of a Faith/Xander person than a Faith/Angel person, but I like that picture.

I absolutely loved Roswell season 1. I'd almost call it magical. The last arc of season 2 destroyed the whole show for me. I didn't even watch season 3.
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New thread. Love the title.

And I have to agree with you. The first season was so great and then they really messed things up with the stuff in season 2, and season 3 was a disaster of epic proportions. Whoever it was that was saying they liked Liz but missed season 3, let's just say you probably would have been disappointed.

To continue the rest of the OT convo from the last thread, Jason hasn't been doing much these days. He keeps his cute little butt hidden away. *Sigh* It's been a long drought since we saw him last.

And I wanted to also say that I am a huge B/A fan, and also thought that the first three season were the best. I still watched the rest of the seasons, but they just lost something when Angel moved to L.A.

But I think that's enough OT outta me. Let's talk Ephram/Amy.

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*Trying to think of a Greenie oriented topic or activity to suggest to keep on topic*

Hmm...ah... the only thing I can come up with is "What is your favorite Greenie quotes?" In which case I'd have to post these:

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Ephram: Do you want one? (holding up a cookie)
Amy: No, I’m good. So, umm, if I get into this class, I think I’m gonna have to go off the pill.
Ephram: Oh, do cookies normally make you think of birth control?
Amy: No, it’s just the whole bloating thing. I-I would probably drop 5 pounds if I went off it, so…
Ephram: Okay, you realize you’re a stick, right?
[Amy just stares at him.]
Ephram: (CONT'D) But that’s fine. Y’know, never mind. Great.
Quote:
Amy: Maybe love's like math. You don't get better at it but you just get used to it. Simple equations with the occasional variable.
Ephram: I hope not. I suck at math.
~My Funny Valentine, season 1
Quote:
Amy: Timing's not our strongest thing.
Ephram: Yeah, exactly. But now.
Amy: Now what?
Ephram: You're it, Amy. You're the one I want to be with. There's no questioning it. There's no holding it back. There's no over-analyzing it. It just is.
~The Day is Done, Season 2
Quote:
Amy: So Saturday night, 8 o’clock.
Ephram: For sex? 8. 9. 10:30.
Amy: Great, so you bring the condoms and I’ll see if I can score some of my mom’s fired chicken for after.
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Amy: I love you, Ephram. I love that you know more about me than I know about myself. I think it’s amazing that that could happen. Don’t you?
Ephram: Yeah.
Amy: All this time, I’ve been thinking. Thinking about what would happen. How you would feel. How I would feel but I’m not thinking now.
Ephram: I know.
Amy: I’m just here with you and I’m not scared.
[Amy kisses Ephram.]
Ephram: Are you sure?
Amy: Yeah.
~The Reflex
Quote:
Ephram: What? You bonded with my father. Why?
Amy: Well, he’s a lot funnier than you give him credit for. And he always pays when we
go out but mainly because he’s the only person in town who didn’t mind me talking about
you 24-7.
Ephram: This is way too weird to process. I’m picturing you and my dad splitting a
Coke at Mama Joy’s. It’s freaking me out.
Amy: One Coke, two straws.
Ephram: Stop it.
~…For Every Action
Quote:
Ephram: Hey. Ephram Brown. We met a couple of years ago.
Amy: Yeah, I seem to remember you. I think you had, uh, purple hair.
Ephram: I’m never gonna live that one down am I?
Amy: No.
~There is a Reaction, season 3
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I love how they pretty much set up an appointment for sex. It's almost like Amy issued him an invitation to a dinner party or something.

Be there at 8. RSVP, and B.Y.O.Condoms. Expect dinner afterward.



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LOVE the new thread title! Thanks, Ashley for starting it!

Oh man, those quotes that you listed were outstanding. I love their flirty bantering that they always have going on. I miss it so much and I want it back ASAP in season 4.

Yeah, Amy and her attempted planned "first time" with Ephram was freaking hilarious. That lunch scene was outstanding. Whenever she asks him bluntly why he doesn't want to have sex with her, I almost fell to the floor in laughter. And that entire scene at the drive in was classic!

Damn, I love these two. Season 4 better be good to us. Rina better come through or step away and allow someone else that can.
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LOVE the new thread title! Thanks, Ashley for starting it!
No problem. I enjoy it and like I explained in the PM, I was so insanely bored, you can't imagine... lol.

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I love their flirty bantering that they always have going on. I miss it so much and I want it back ASAP in season 4.
Yeah I know, me too! I miss the moments between them like these:

Quote:
Ephram: Do you want one? (holding up a cookie)
Amy: No, I’m good. So, umm, if I get into this class, I think I’m gonna have to go off the pill.
Ephram: Oh, do cookies normally make you think of birth control?
Amy: No, it’s just the whole bloating thing. I-I would probably drop 5 pounds if I went off it, so…
Ephram: Okay, you realize you’re a stick, right?
[Amy just stares at him.]
Ephram: (CONT'D) But that’s fine. Y’know, never mind. Great.
Quote:
Ephram: What? You bonded with my father. Why?
Amy: Well, he’s a lot funnier than you give him credit for. And he always pays when we
go out but mainly because he’s the only person in town who didn’t mind me talking about
you 24-7.
Ephram: This is way too weird to process. I’m picturing you and my dad splitting a
Coke at Mama Joy’s. It’s freaking me out.
Amy: One Coke, two straws.
Ephram: Stop it.
~…For Every Action
Quote:
Ephram: Hey. Ephram Brown. We met a couple of years ago.
Amy: Yeah, I seem to remember you. I think you had, uh, purple hair.
Ephram: I’m never gonna live that one down am I?
Amy: No.
~There is a Reaction, season 3


Those are scenes that are so amazingly adorable and funny and just...perfect. Now I feel sad, thinking of the lack of those kinds of Greenie scenes we've had

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Yeah, Amy and her attempted planned "first time" with Ephram was freaking hilarious. That lunch scene was outstanding. Whenever she asks him bluntly why he doesn't want to have sex with her, I almost fell to the floor in laughter. And that entire scene at the drive in was classic!
HAHA I know! I love that scene! I actually have that clip downloaded because it was simply too funny If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll try and upload it (depending how long it will take).

Yeah. Season 4 better kick some serious a$$ or else... I mean, granted, we all know deep in our heats that we won't see a reunion till the middle of the season, the latest.

I forsee them slowly getting their friendship back. I also see Ephram getting very jealous of a potential new guy in her life and that sorta makes him realize that he needs to do some serious groveling and act quickly or the love of his life os going to be gone. I also see them having a spontaneous "reunion" gearing kiss (like the one in 'Till Death Do Us Part') and taht will result in them relizing their still lingering feelings. Hopefully after that, they will get back on track and we will have a perfect end of s4
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I forsee them slowly getting their friendship back. I also see Ephram getting very jealous of a potential new guy in her life and that sorta makes him realize that he needs to do some serious groveling and act quickly or the love of his life os going to be gone. I also see them having a spontaneous "reunion" gearing kiss (like the one in 'Till Death Do Us Part') and taht will result in them relizing their still lingering feelings. Hopefully after that, they will get back on track and we will have a perfect end of s4
Wow. You and I are in sync with many thoughts on this! I see their friendship coming back while their feelings for each other still surround them, but I also see a third party involved, mainly because Rina is in charge and we all know she is THE QUEEN of triangles. She loved them on Creek and of course, she will carry that on over to this show, I am sure. But yeah, I see a third party somehow involved and I see it on Amy's side, and Ephram will be all jealous and back to the season 1 pining for her, but he'll do it in a subtle way where he is internally suffering but Amy thinks he is pretty much okay with it. Then, I do see them getting closer and closer until a passionate kiss overcomes them.. I see Amy pulling away and really being frustrated and miffed over it because she will not want to get burned and hurt again as she was at the end of season 3 and then we will see the declaration of love from Ephram to Amy in a very convincing manner and thus, their reunion. But I do believe Amy is going to be really careful in getting back together with Ephram again.. Not that she isn't still in love with Ephram because she certainly is, it's just that she is going to be scared of getting hurt again, and that will leave her very cautious. It will be Ephram that has to convince her that he was in such a screwed up place at the end of season 3 and he still loved her throughout everything and possibly even loved her more during that entire ordeal but he needed to break away and get his head on straight. Yeah, I see Ephram really having to explain away quite a bit but I do see it happening and I see their eventual reunion happening around mid - late season 4. It's going to happen, it'll just take some time to get there.
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If they do get back together, I think it will be like season 2...they will get together in the finale and we'll have to wait all summer to see the aftermath. I just hope that aftermath doesn't suck as much as this season's did.
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Very possible, Alan. I could Rina stretching it out all season and then we won't see the aftermath until season 5. Yeah, I could, unfortunately, totally see that. I don't care, as long as this season gives us some quality episodes and some good E/A scenes. I will be so ticked if Rina pulls an amnesia deal with them where we are to believe that E/A forgot about their past relationship and feelings for each other. There better be angst. If there's not, I will be fuming. I could see Rina having E/A either being in total separate storylines like season 2, or even have them become friends again quickly, and act as if it doesn't bother them that they are not romantically involved anymore and forgot about everything they experienced. I do not want either of these scenarios. I want something in the middle, where they sort of go their own ways to get their future aspirations squared away and work on some other stuff in their own lives but I also want some yearning and angst between them.. Any swing in a drastic way of having them totally separate or always together but acting A-okay about everything will piss me off. And I wouldn't put it past Rina to play either of these two scenarios, unfortunately.

For me, they NEED interaction and a build up towards their reunion if that's what takes place at the end of season 4. They can't be completely separated all season long and then, BAM, they instantly get back together and we are all wondering where the hell that came from. And if they are always together without any yearning or angst and then all of a sudden, BAM, they are kissing again and back together, that will also be ridiculous. We need an in between. Yearning and angst and seeing each other a fair amount before their reunion. I hope Rina has a brain with this and handles it properly.

I guess we'll see.
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You never know. Hannah could come back from the summer break and find out that Bright cheated on her with a girl from the local psychiatric ward...and Ephram, after having met a deliciously wild girl on his plane ride back to the U.S. (a girl who happens to be moving to Everwood for some mysterious reason) asks Hannah to watch out for Amy since he can't be there for her. Ephram pursues the mysterious girl, only to break up with her after she steals some confidential patient data from his father. Hannah will continue to look out for Amy, and over time, feelings grow...and we have our first openly slash Everwood couple.

Of course, then Ephram would have to race Hannah in the annual regatta, but that's a different story.
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You never know. Hannah could come back from the summer break and find out that Bright cheated on her with a girl from the local psychiatric ward...and Ephram, after having met a deliciously wild girl on his plane ride back to the U.S. (a girl who happens to be moving to Everwood for some mysterious reason) asks Hannah to watch out for Amy since he can't be there for her. Ephram pursues the mysterious girl, only to break up with her after she steals some confidential patient data from his father. Hannah will continue to look out for Amy, and over time, feelings grow...and we have our first openly slash Everwood couple.

Of course, then Ephram would have to race Hannah in the annual regatta, but that's a different story.
!!!

Hmm... that crappy storyline sounds familiar... Now where have I heard that one before...

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For me, they NEED interaction and a build up towards their reunion if that's what takes place at the end of season 4. They can't be completely separated all season long and then, BAM, they instantly get back together and we are all wondering where the hell that came from. And if they are always together without any yearning or angst and then all of a sudden, BAM, they are kissing again and back together, that will also be ridiculous. We need an in between. Yearning and angst and seeing each other a fair amount before their reunion. I hope Rina has a brain with this and handles it properly.
Word! hehe. Totally. The end of s2 reunion.... eh... while I was so happy to have had it, it was only the last few episode that began to lead up to it. But I guess that was okay, since they were never an actual couple and really, only shared a few kisses the prevous season (not to mention thee greatest connection EVER amongst one another! lol). But this season,.... I realy really don't want there to be a last episode of the season reunion. They'd gone through too much previously for that to happen. Also, even from Amy's side; she lost her virginity to this guy just the previous year. Seeing him with someone (should Rina decide to throw a gal Ephram's way) should really have an effect on her. it would me. Yeah, she's going to be hesitant about getting back with him; even though she loes him... But Ephram's really goign to heave to win her back, even if there isn't another guy in the picture. GO, EPHRAM!!! We all know he can do it. Hopefully when he returns, he won't be so dark, brooding, depressing and ah... FAKE as he was last season.
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Yay a new thread I love the title

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You never know. Hannah could come back from the summer break and find out that Bright cheated on her with a girl from the local psychiatric ward...and Ephram, after having met a deliciously wild girl on his plane ride back to the U.S. (a girl who happens to be moving to Everwood for some mysterious reason) asks Hannah to watch out for Amy since he can't be there for her. Ephram pursues the mysterious girl, only to break up with her after she steals some confidential patient data from his father. Hannah will continue to look out for Amy, and over time, feelings grow...and we have our first openly slash Everwood couple.

Of course, then Ephram would have to race Hannah in the annual regatta, but that's a different story.


Anyway, I see Ephram and Amy becoming friends. And a third party, coming from Amy's side of the relationship. I just don't think that Ephram would have had dating on his mind while in Europe because well, he found out that he had gotten his ex pregnant. Girls would surely not be on his mind, well except Amy. But she is different from the normal girl to him, Ephram loves her. Amy on the other hand is hurt and doesn't know where their relationship will head when he gets back. She will probably try to move on the best she can. So I see jealou Ephram pinning for her and lots of angst or at least some. Then a passion filled kiss that leads to the reunion. Because lets face it, Amy still loves him and always will, or at least I believe so. Ephram will have to convince her that she won't get hurt again, lots of grovaling. Which is very understandable from her point of veiw.

You know what's sad? I can see Rina totally ignoring the fact that they were ever dating and just put them together close to the end of the season. Because she's Rina and does stupid things like that. She did that in season 5 of Dawson's Creek with Pacey and Joey and no one is really there to stop her from doing it with Ephram and Amy. If she is still incharge it would be her decison, so I hope that's not what she does.
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Totally Emma. I could see Rina going the amnesia bit with E/A. I really could and the frightening part is that there seems like there is noone there to stop her from doing this, either. Hopefully she is not that stupid.

Ashley: Totally agree that a reunion in the finale of four would be disappointing.. However, I see it as a probability given Rina's history. Isn't this just sad that we have absolutely zero faith in her? This sucks! Oh, and yes, given that Amy lost her virginity to Ephram, this makes their relationship all the more complicated because Amy would be CRUSHED to see Ephram with someone else. And even Ephram for that matter.. Knowing that she did technically save herself for him, because lets face it, she could have slept with Tommy the minute she met him. Thankfully, she didn't! Anyway, for Ephram to know that she chose to lose her virginity with him, that has to be huge in his mind and I see him as REALLY being upset if Amy choses to get into another sexual relationship. I could see Ephram finding this out from Bright or even Hannah, and Ephram being stung and completely devastated. Finally realizing how he just let the love of his life, THE ONLY girl that he will ever truly love, get away. I see Ephram very much bumming and being in dire straits due to being separated from Amy this season and especially, if she hooks up with someone else.
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