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I think it was really intended to be that way. Showing us that there's always a big life's changing event waiting for us to change our life and dream plans. But it was still painful because after seeing his character deal with so much, I was kinda feeling like Andy, wanting to prevent him from getting hurt at all costs. Because Ephram is such a pure heart. I wish I could have enjoyed a little Ephram & Amy happiness without having the MadisonGate over their head waiting to explode. I did enjoy MadisonGate though. I wasn't a fan of how it was handle Ephramy related, but other than that, I loved that it lead to very powerful and interesting scenes, especially between Ephram/Andy and Amy/Harold. The only thing I really hated was how it broke Ephram & Amy up. I felt it wasn't tod the right way and I didn't "believe" their break up. It made no sense. On the other hand, The Andy/Amada storyline made me unconfortable. I could easily have done without. Quote:
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For one, we had grown in love with Laynie and there would have been a lot of repercussions for Ephramy if Ephram & Laynie had dated, fallen in love and all. It would have been hard for the Amy/Laynie friendship, for the future Ephram/Amy relationship. Plus, we would have had to explore Laynie's feelings. She was a character we knew and loved, If Ephram was a big relationship for her, they couldn't let go of her like that. There would have been consequences. Laynie had too much connections in Everwood. I don't know. I think the one thing that was good about Madison/Ephram is that it wasn't an equal both way love. I found it annoying most of the time but it had the great consequences of not making Madison a threat to Ephram/Amy. She was Ephram's first love but as it was all messed up and full of problems, it wasn't a fully explored love. It helped Ephram grow and become more of a man, preparing him for a real relationship (with amy). Giving him the experience to feel more self confident, I guess. I think they really needed to handle the first relationship of Ephram differently than Ephram/Amy not to change the Ephram/Amy history and dynamic and their "meant to be" status. I hope I'm making sense. Quote:
Even if I didn't feel like that at the time cause I was all about Ephramy, in the end, I think she was a milestone in Ephram's life and I'm glad that it happened. The baby, I couldn't have lived without. But the Madiphram relationship was, to me, interesting and I loved to see Ephram growing out of this experience. When I try to imagine Ephram & Amy dating in season 2, I realise that it would have been a mess of confusion, misunderstanding and stuff like that with Ephram always pining for her and still messing up, and Amy depressed over Colin. The fact that Ephram became so much selfconfident and that Amy got over Colin made their relationship in Season 3 even more real and special. Quote:
No offense to anyone that age but at 20, you act childish too, you fall in love with the wrong person too... Sure, they were at different places of their life when they dated and that was a problem but I don't know, I think they made some stuff into a way bigger deal than it actually was. Quote:
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GEMMA: Um... I don't know...It's just so perfect here... Do you want to? BRIGHT: Are you kidding me? What do you think I was praying for all that time in mass today? GEMMA: You prayed for me to put out? [Gemma truly and honestly is thoroughly taken.] GEMMA: (CONT'D) That is so sweet! [They make out when Bright should look over his girlfriend's shoulder and sees his dad who passed out on the ski lift. Dr. Abbott's in robe and clipboard. Someone's even taken the time to sharpie "DOCTOR COOL" across his forehead. Bright bolts upright.] BRIGHT: Dad? GEMMA: Hey, where're you going? [Bright looks up at his dad, then back to his girlfriend, and back again. He gets up and starts to go to his dad, the hardest decision of his life.] BRIGHT: I'm coming! GEMMA: What? But I'm here. And I said OK! BRIGHT: I gotta help my dad. If I die and don't go to heaven, I'm gonna be so pissed. [Bright runs to his dad. Gemma is in shock.] GEMMA: Huh? Great thoughts, Alex. I'll respond more fully tonight. I have to go to work now! __________________
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I know it won't be very original but my favorite character is Amy.
I like many characters in Everwood, but she's the one I like the most. Because she's so human and go through life with so much commitment. And maybe the main reason is the way she's portrayed by Emily VanCamp which is perfect; she can make us feel so well what Amy is going through it's amazing for such a young actress. __________________
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Great post, Alex. I hated when Madison told Andy she was pregnant and Andy told her not to tell Ephram, because I knew that that the “bomb” had been set, and the joy I felt seeing Ephram’s reaction when he saw Amy on the plane to New York was offset by the realization that at some point, that “bomb” was going to detonate. I saw Madisongate as a cheap soap opera like ploy to create “drama,” and I truly hated the damage that it caused, to the point where I couldn’t bring myself to watch those episodes.
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First off, Alex, love the HP reference. Love it.
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So yeah, Madisongate sucked rocks for so many reasons, but in looking at the bright side of it, I do think there were several good things to eventually take place once Madisongate was finally detonated and the calm after the storm finally took place. Quote:
I ADORE how Julia was always ever present in this series. How amazing is that? I love how Summer mentioned that Julia was her favorite character. Such a great choice. This character was in EVERY SCENE whenever it all comes down to it. She truly was. We saw her more vividly in certain instances and she was more toned down in others but the point is, the significance of this character was everything to this series. And I adored how this show made this quite clear since day 1 and it never changed throughout. Quote:
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Oh yeah, no doubt about it, if EL would have been explored instead of EM, Berlanti, absolutely, would have had to have done it very delicately, constantly paying attention to how the long term would shake out. Quote:
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I do appreciate where the both of them were at whenever they finally got together. They were certainly both ready for each other and you instantly saw this to true throughout the romantic relationship in season 3 minus a few hiccups that Rina inserted in there for fake drama. Last edited by jediwands; 08-11-2006 at 08:36 PM |
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Can I hear you say 'Amy'?
Sorry, I never posted who my favourite (yes I'm adding a 'u' because I'm Canadian! ) character was and I needed to make it really really obvious to everyone, in case they didn't know by now, that I loved Amy (oh god, loved in the past tense...) __________________
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Whoa! Double post. It's the first time it's ever happened to me...
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LMAO dawnie regarding the X Files theme.
I love your passion for Amy. We share this, big time. Nice touch with the "U" as well! Yeah, so sad that it's past tense. How weird is it that there will be no Amy this coming season? Reruns have to be happening at full force to compensate. |
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Yeah, I don't get the "u" thing and I've learned it recently. Since I never went to school in english before last september, I learned english mostly from TV and books (and yes, of course, second-language course in school). I asked my cousin to proof-read one of my paper since she's a copy editor and I had written "favorite" in there and she added a "u". And I was suprised 'cause you always see it written without a "u". And she explained it was a Canadian thing and that Americans wrote it without "u" inlcuding other words like color. And when I asked why that difference, she answered that americans were lazy! I don't think she meant it, but you gotta admit, it's pretty stupid for us to write it two different ways!
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My favourite character is Amy as well She's the one I relate the most to (I'm not sure that was an actual sentence )
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I'm with you about being somewhat glad we didn't get a season 5 with the rumors about Madison's presence (I don't even want to think what lame soap opera crap would be told) and the possible Ephram/Hannah gross relationship being contemplated. Berlanti what are you thinking! Even Rina wasn't moronic enough to go there. Lets say I'm glad Everwood ended with class and didn't go off the deep end. Last edited by AngelaiDanes; 08-15-2006 at 07:37 AM |
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I've seen that spelling before with the "U" and I just assumed it was a typo but then now that I think about it, I've seen lots of people making this "typo" so I'm shocked I didn't pick up on the fact that it might be legit. So funny regarding your cousins comment about Americans being lazy and that's why. Seriously, I'm American and I'm down with that reasoning. Quote:
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I think Ephram just knew he was at a very defining moment in his life, you know? I think he was sick and tired of taking the long and bumpy road, he realized that he could be forever pissed off and miserable, keep ragging on his father, deliberately put a distance between him and Amy, swear at the world and act as if he was always going to get the raw end of the deal OR he could finally make the decision to take control of his life, stop sulking, accept the things he couldn't change, embrace the things he could, and finally move on towards his search for peace and tranquility. His time away in Europe did wonders for him. He came to the revelation that it was his true love for Amy that allowed him make the decision of moving on and not taking that bumpy road any longer. He found strength in the love that he had for her and in their love together to move forward towards the mature Ephram, the real Ephram.. This might sounds cheesy but I really do believe it was the EA love that gave him the strength and produced the light for him to see clearly and move forward. Everything else followed after that. His talk with Andy on the camping trip proved as much as well. He said he came back for Amy. Of course that's the truth but in a bigger sense, he knew that his life for Amy was what filled his heart and once he came back to fight for regaining it, he would also be regaining other aspects of his life as well like the rebuilding of his relationship with his father, figuring out what he wanted to do with his piano, helping out others along the way, etc. It all fell into place. It was the EA love that guided him the entire way throughout his journey, no doubt about it. Quote:
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I also love how they slept together around Christmas time because I think it was a key reminder to the fans to "hold on" and stay tuned, EA were on their way towards getting things right again and a permanent reunion was certainly happening. Coupled with the fact that neither EA were with anyone else in a serious way as well. So awesome that they never slept with anyone else but each other the entire time they were broken up. Excellent. Quote:
I also love how the both of them worked on individual aspects of their lives as well before reuniting. Both matured considerably and found out more about themselves and essentially got all the other aspects of their lives in order before their permanent reunion. That was so priceless to see. Quote:
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We seriously couldn't have gotten a more perfect ending not only to EA, but to this entire serires. And how do you mess with or question perfection? You don't. You cherish it and that's what we will always be able to do with this series from now on. Last edited by jediwands; 08-15-2006 at 06:31 PM |
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