['Tos]

Alright, we've got a further wrench into understanding how music substitution works. According to a poster on the imdb.com Everwood message board, the season one episodes have different music than the DVD did with its original songs and artists. Huh.

This does seem to make more sense because taking away songs would be easier than adding songs, but we've always assumed that the DVDs would have the same music as the website, but does this change things?

I don't know about you, but with "Fields of Gold" staying, and now this, I'm more confused than ever.

I also forget if we actually knew this, hee. So if we did and this is repeated information: oops. But it seems new to my warped memory, heh.

[Thief Of Love]

So does this mean there's still hope for the DVDs?

But then, we first learned of the S2 DVDs' existence because of that article that mentioned some up-and-coming artist's songs being used as substitution music in said DVDs...

But then, S2 had more expensive music, overall, than did, say, S3 and 4, with more classics and then-hits, so there was always some chance of replacements, given that Warner Bros. wasn't going to want to spend the money at this point in the game. So then, maybe there's still hope for those seasons, if they're released.

My brain hurts.

['Tos]

Mine too! Stupid Warner making our brains hurt.

I'm sure there will definitely be music substitution for season two (and beyond), but I'm not wondering if it will be as widespread. Those episodes are for free, and obviously they don't want to have to pay for the music rights for episodes that they aren't really getting any money off of. Although I'm sure they're making money somehow. Anyway, maybe for the episodes where they are expecting to make money, there is a chance--a small, tiny, minuscule, wee chance--that the music replacements won't be as rampant?

I should just stop trying to understand what's going on, heh.

Also, that same poster in another thread there mentioned that if you register for an account on the WB site, you can add all the episodes to it, and at the end of the run of Everwood episodes, you'd have all the episodes in the series on the playlist to watch whenever you want. I don't know if everyone knew that, but it seemed worth mentioning.

[EWMusicJunkie]

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this thread. I am on a mission since I have heard so much about the music from Everwood. TheWB site posts episodes every week and they are the DVD versions. I am in the process of going though them and trying ID the music. Currently I am making a spreadsheet of the TV vs. DVD versions. Everwood was filmed and shown before many music supervisors realized the high costs or re-licensing music for DVD use....hence a lot of songs being changed. I found quite a few just in the first 10 episodes of season 1 that were either changed or never ID'd. If anyone is interested or has any comments or questions, please feel free to email me any song questions or clips that I could help out with. it's everwoodmusic at g mail dot com. I have no connection to the show but am a fan of the show and the music.

Thanks

['Tos]

Welcome to the board!

That sounds like a really cool and useful project. We've definitely been following the changes, with some discomfort and confusion I might add, and there will be a ton of fans looking for what happened, what the old songs were, but I'm sure a lot will be looking for some of the new songs too. Keep us updated!

['Tos]

Just wanted to bump this up for any specific discussions of the music in the S2 DVD once we all get it.

[ShadowMagist]

The only really noticeable music substitution was the opening scene in The Last of Summer. I distinctly remember the original song being more...I dunno, happy? Upbeat? So that was a bit distracting, but aside from that, everything else has been fine. Though I really think they substituted everything from the premiere out. Were those songs all that expensive? Geez.

['Tos]

I didn't really actually notice any changes. Like, if I hadn't been listening for some differences, I don't think I would have noticed any. The songs sound a little cheaper and a lot more generic, but...so far, no real disappointments. I'll save that for "At Last", hee.

Though I really think they substituted everything from the premiere out. Were those songs all that expensive? Geez.

I know, eh? But hopefully it means they're getting higher profits on every set they sell with less money going towards licensing, so then we can get S3 and S4 quickly! *Mr. Brightside*

[cfs89]

Here is a repost of all the songs used in S2 from Everwoodmusic.com,,,,,,,,,


#201 - Robbie Williams - "One Fine Day" - Escapology(not on DVD)
#201 - 10cc - "Things We Do For Love" - Things We Do For Love(not on DVD)
#201 - The Beach Boys - "California Girls" - Sounds of Summer(not on DVD)
#201 - Guster - "Come Downstairs And Say Hello" - Keep It Together
#201 - The Chi-Lites - "Oh Girl" - Greatest Hits(not on DVD)
#201 - Randy Newman - "I Love L.A." - The Best of Randy Newman(not on DVD)

#203 - The Youngbloods - "Get Together" - Get Together: The Essential Youngbloods(not on DVD)
#203 - Lizzie West - "Doctor" - Holy Road: Freedom Songs

#204 - Dashboard Confessional - "Bend and Not Break" - A Mark, A Mission, A Brand, A Scar
#204 - Matt Nathanson - "Lucky Boy" - Beneath These Fireworks
#204 - Michelle Branch - "Are You Happy Now?" - Hotel Paper(not on DVD)

#205 - Joseph Arthur - "You've Been Loved" - Redemption's Son
#205 - Matthew Fisher - "Let Me In" -
#205 - Johnny Heartsman - "Butler Did It" - The Touch

#206 - Jet - "Are You Gonna Be My Girl" - Get Born
#206 - Fountains Of Wayne - "All Kinds Of Time" - Welcome Interstate Managers
#206 - Steve Ward - "The River Leads Me Home" - See and Be Seen
#206 - Earth Wind and Fire - "September" - Greatest Hits(not on DVD)
#206 - Etta James - "At Last" - At Last!(not on DVD)

#207 - Art Tatum - "Begin the Beguine" - 20th Century Piano Genius
#207 - Art Tatum - "In a Sentimental Mood" - 20th Century Piano Genius
#207 - Art Tatum - "What Is This Thing Called Love" - Piano Grand Master
#207 - Neil Halstead - "Seasons" - Sleeping on Roads

#208 - Sugar Ray - "Is She Really Going Out With Him?" - In The Pursuit Of Leisure
#208 - Beth Orton - "Ooh Child" - War Child: Hope

#209 - Rooney - "I'm Shakin'" - Rooney
#209 - Liz Phair - "Why Can't I?" - Liz Phair
#209 - Mojave 3 - "Bluebird of Happiness" - Spoon & Rafter

#210 - Kool & The Gang - "Celebration" - The Very Best of Kool & The Gang
#210 - Fenton Robinson - "Somebody Loan Me a Dime" - Somebody Loan Me a Dime

#211 - Jonny Lang - "Red Light" - Long Time Coming
#211 - Course of Nature - "Caught in the Sun" - Superkala

#212 - Spoon - "The Way We Get By" - Kill the Moonlight

#213 - Michael Bublé - "That's All" - Michael Bublé

#214 - Sheryl Crow - "I Shall Believe" - The Very Best of Sheryl Crow
#214 - Counting Crows - "Anna Begins" - Films About Ghosts

#215 - Butthole Surfers - "The Shame of Life" - Weird Revolution

#216 - Paul Oakenfold - "Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes" - Great Wall
#216 - Thievery Corporation - "Facing East" - The Richest Man in Babylon
#216 - Norman Greenbaum - "Spirit in the Sky" - The Best of Norman Greenbaum: Spirit in the Sky
#216 - BT - "Force of Gravity" - Emotional Technology
#216 - Matthew Fisher - "Let Me In" -
#216 - Blackwatch & Quiver - "Loveless (Original Mix)" - Paul Oakenfold - Great Wall

#217 - Alexi Murdoch - "Song For You" - Four Songs

#218 - Gwyneth Paltrow and Huey Lewis - "Cruisin'" - Duets
#218 - Peter Gabriel - "Father, Son" - OVO: Millennium Show

#219 - Vertical Horizon - "I'm Still Here" - Go
#219 - Beth Orton - "Ooh Child" - Other Side of Daybreak
#219 - Jonathan Rice - "Quiet Hushed Voices" - Tin Can Love: Demo Recordings
#219 - Groove Armada - "Hands of Time" - Love Box(not on DVD)

#220 - Liz Phair - "Red Light Fever" - Liz Phair
#220 - FunkStar De luxe - "Ignition" - Funkturistic
#220 - Doobie Brothers / DJ Malibu - "Listen To The Music (Remix)" -

#222 - Jack Harlan - "Please Don't Pass Me By" - Carnival of Mystery(not on DVD)

[ShadowMagist]

Get Together by The Youngbloods is sadly not on the set either. But they replaced it with a really good/similar song that is fine by me...I guess. Heh.

The Robbie Williams song is the opening pool song in the premire and that's been replaced by some god awful thing. Ugh. Michelle Branch was also replaced...though why they had her in there as background noise in the first place is beyond me.

[ShadowMagist]

The "At Last" sub wasn't too jarring either. I never really understood the fascination with the song in that scene to be completely honest. But they cut Earth Wind and Fire's "September". Boo!

They thankfully kept Beth Orton's "Ooh Child", which is so complimentary at the end of the episode, that I don't see how they could've cut it. Yay for Warner! Heh.

['Tos]

Great news about "Ooh Child"! That's a great song, and very effective with the scene.

I never really understood the fascination with the song in that scene to be completely honest.

It's romantic! *sappy*

I'm pretty sure "California Girls" wasn't used in "The Last of Summer", but I can't remember what scene it would have been used in.

['Tos]

Just watched "Blind Faith" and the "At Last" substitution is quite good. It's got strings, just like "At Last", it's old fashioned sounding and it's got some nice lyrics about love. It's similar in tone, at the very least. But, OH, it's not "At Last"! The meaning behind that song, that Andy recognizes it..and it just fits the scene PERFECTLY. I just watched the original with the original song and they either actually time some of the scene to fit with the song or it's just one all big coincidence, because some of the lyrics match up with some of what's going on in the scene.

So, yeah, actually a pretty impressive attempt in the substitution, but it's impossible to top "At Last". Which is probably pretty expensive, so what can you do?

[ShadowMagist]

You are so neurotic!

I finished Unspoken Truths today and I think I liked the techno subs more than the originals. I really do love As The Rush Comes but whatever they used got the job done as well.

['Tos]

It's a good song! I would probably consider it one of the better suited songs that the show used in S2. Plus, it'll be the only song I actually can remember being replaced in S2, so I won't have anything else to say about the rest, hee.