Everwood - Everwood Fans who are Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie Fans of DC #16: Season 3 Ratings tanked... coincidence? Not a chance.

**jediwands** · 02-26-2018, 02:15 PM

This is an appreciation thread for Everwood fans who are also Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie fans. For those who shipped these pairings, the series once had such great promise, but ended up being one of the most disappointing series to date. TPTB enjoyed manipulating the heart and soul of the old school (seasons 1/2) Dawson's Creek audience, who embraced the premise and the main pairings of the show, Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie fans. The first two seasons defined Dawson's Creek. Season 3 came along and the show simply wasn't the same anymore. New showrunner who essentially mocked the premise, destroyed the main pairings, and was basically just fine with dropping the quality in order to make the series his own. We know the drill. Discussing our main pairings, as well frustrations over storylines, writing, TPTB, fandom in general, is also welcome here.

Note: This is not a debate thread with other ships. This thread is strictly for Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie fans to appreciate the pairings and discuss aspects of the show, both good and bad. This thread was originally created to celebrate friendships between a couple of regulars on the Everwood board who, back in the day, posted on the Dawson's Creek board and encountered some terrible fan wars and not so great moments. We wanted a safe place to discuss our thoughts here on the Everwood board. That is how this thread was created. Jerry D, our amazing Administrator, and my very good friend, came up with the idea and the rest is history. For those of you who ship other pairings and don't agree with the content of this thread, of course there's the Dawson's Creek board and other threads scattered throughout Fan Forum perfectly designed for you.

Thanks!

Credit Xelphia Kenny:

Alternate S5 & S6 : He made a solemn promise he would come and visit her. Hell, he even jotted it down in indelible black ink onto the crisp pages of her brand new journal while wearing a big toothy grin on his face, but regardless, it had been months since Pacey had made any contact with Andie. Andie forced herself not to overthink it and chalked it up to life getting in the way, but the smallest embers inside of her heart that yearned for him still despite everything that happened between them started to prickle at the back of her head. Although once the orientation process at Harvard was over and the real work began, Andie’s thoughts of Pacey Witter were sidelined in order to make room for the mountains and mountains of schoolwork she was receiving on a daily basis.

That was until, out of the blue, Pacey literally came sailing back into her life looking tanned, well rested, and even more gorgeous. Andie vowed to never let herself fall back in love with Pacey, she made an ironclad pledge to herself to never stray back into that hornet’s nest, but his soft, warm gaze pointed in her direction had Andie convinced his heart was remembering the way it used to love her.

She was one hundred percent correct in her assumptions.

The laughter between them settled into a deep warmth and easiness, and they talked well into the wee hours of the night and gradually, the intimacy they once coveted as a couple so long ago had returned to their bodies in triplicate. It started with Pacey’s hand brushing up against hers when she handed him a magazine from a convenience store shelf, which then evolved into their hugs becoming longer and more needy each time they touched. Soon enough, Pacey did the unthinkable, and asked Andie a question she never thought she’d hear again in her life from him…

Pacey Witter had asked her out on a date.

At first, they had both agreed to not invest too much of themselves into the date, stating an urge to take things as slow as they could in order to protect themselves from any harmful fallout, but Pacey and Andie’s mutually intense bedroom eyes that screamed “make love to me.” seemed to tell another story altogether. The immense pain of potentially opening up old wounds over how their relationship crumbled in the past fell to the wayside as Pacey and Andie ended up having passionate, raw, soul searing sex in Andie’s shower. Every single iota of mistrust, devastating heartbreak, and bad memories in their past circled its way down the drain.

And as Andie sat by her vanity, drying her hair and watching Pacey getting ready for bed, she smiled to herself. At long last, she finally felt like she could breathe again.

Fic Links that TL22 supplied and commented on:

1.Kiss Me Chapter 1, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

This takes place at the end of season four. It's my very first P/A story. two short chapters. My version on how the graduation could/should have went.

2.Thanksgiving, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

A short interlude of what could have happened between seasons three and four.

3.Finding True Love Chapter 1, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

Fourteen chapters of what could have happened in the future. I wrote it over two years. The story starts season three when Pacey is getting ready to sail away. The end of chapter one has a unique twist, I think you'll enjoy.

The following is by ElizabethBella who wrote a fantastic Pacey/Andie story. (My favourite)

Come Sail Away Chapter 1: Separate, and apart, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
This is a multi chaptered story, you won't be able to put down.

The next is another one of my favourites written by the very talented StevieLuvsAlex

No amount of time, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

The next is a two part Pacey/Andie story written by me and StevieLuvsAlex. The first part is hers and the second part written by me won't make any sense if the first part is not read. Very very short

Everything happens for a reason, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
Written by StevieluvsAlex

Everything Happens For a Reason part Two, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
Written by me and takes up where Everything Happens For a Reason leaves off

https://www.fanfiction.net/story/sto...toryid=7420836

This is a glimpse of Pacey, Andie, Joey and Dawson when they were very young. The story is two parts..

The next link is by the author Makesmyheadspin. IT is a bitter sweet story and really captures Pacey and Andie.

Springsteen, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

Fate is The Hunter, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

**stlavin95** · 02-26-2018, 02:59 PM

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Season 1: 6.6
Season 2: 5.4

Season 3: 4.0
Season 4: 4.1

Never recovered the next two seasons either.

If that's not proof the audience realized the show was a completely different show when season 3 hit (and tons bailed) and were not liking the break ups of the main pairings in Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie.

Wow, that's an decent drop between the seasons then.

**stlavin95** · 02-26-2018, 03:01 PM

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True Love, lol.

I guess they were in denial from the start.

EM and BL fans were smarter, haha.

I know the difference here is PJ got the supposed ending but it was so bad. The ending didn't tell the story of PJ. Not in the least. It was completely out there. You know it was bad when some PJ fans said they were shocked it happened and some of the more honest ones said it didn't fit.

Is that where there was speeches made about Pacey/Joey that didn't fit them at all and fitted Dawson/Joey much better?

**stlavin95** · 02-26-2018, 03:02 PM

Thanks for the new thread btw.

**jediwands** · 02-26-2018, 03:59 PM

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Wow, that's an decent drop between the seasons then.

Right?

Significant drop due to quality tanking and the main pairings of Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie being destroyed in favor of Pacey/Joey.

How much did the ratings drop on OTH with BL?

**jediwands** · 02-26-2018, 04:00 PM

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Is that where there was speeches made about Pacey/Joey that didn't fit them at all and fitted Dawson/Joey much better?

Lol Exactly.

**jediwands** · 02-26-2018, 04:00 PM

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Thanks for the new thread btw.

You’re welcome!

**stlavin95** · 02-26-2018, 04:33 PM

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Right?

Significant drop due to quality tanking and the main pairings of Dawson/Joey and Pace/Andie being destroyed in favor of Pacey/Joey.

How much did the ratings drop on OTH with BL?

Yep, it really is

Well, the ratings for episode 2.03 was 5.4 million and the premiere for Season 3 was 3 million and 1.8 million of that drop occurred after 2.10. The season averages don't really tell the full story on the drop in ratings.

**stlavin95** · 02-26-2018, 04:34 PM

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Lol Exactly.

Thought so lol

***Jerry D*** · 02-26-2018, 04:39 PM

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Is that where there was speeches made about Pacey/Joey that didn't fit them at all and fitted Dawson/Joey much better?

Yes it was. Joey made a speech to Pacey about how she always ran away from happiness and she wanted to stop running, but she never ran away from Pacey. He broke up with her. The only one she ever ran away from was Dawson. The ending was rewritten at the last minute to have Pacey and Joey end up together, so they just took all the speeches that Joey was supposed to say to Dawson and they had her say them to Pacey. Dawson was just relegated to being someone from her childhood, and they had a phony "soulmate" scene, but she really should have ended up with Dawson and not Pacey.

**stlavin95** · 02-26-2018, 05:01 PM

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Yes it was. Joey made a speech to Pacey about how she always ran away from happiness and she wanted to stop running, but she never ran away from Pacey. He broke up with her. The only one she ever ran away from was Dawson. The ending was rewritten at the last minute to have Pacey and Joey end up together, so they just took all the speeches that Joey was supposed to say to Dawson and they had her say them to Pacey. Dawson was just relegated to being someone from her childhood, and they had a phony "soulmate" scene, but she really should have ended up with Dawson and not Pacey.

Seems weird that they didn't at least change that speech when they decided to change the ending.

***Jerry D*** · 02-26-2018, 05:19 PM

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Seems weird that they didn't at least change that speech when they decided to change the ending.

Probably because it was done at the last minute and Kevin Williamson was probably too lazy to do a full rewrite.

**jediwands** · 02-26-2018, 05:42 PM

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Seems weird that they didn't at least change that speech when they decided to change the ending.

The funny part is most PJers know they received a DJ speech and still embrace it, lol.

If I found out LP received any gross BL lines in their last episode I’d be so disgusted and unsettled. Of course that would never happen because Lucas/Peyton were the Ephram/Amy of OTH.

**jediwands** · 02-26-2018, 05:45 PM

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Yep, it really is

Well, the ratings for episode 2.03 was 5.4 million and the premiere for Season 3 was 3 million and 1.8 million of that drop occurred after 2.10. The season averages don't really tell the full story on the drop in ratings.

It’s clear Lucas/Peyton = Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie.

Brooke/Lucas = Pacey/Joey.

Mark knew as much though which is why he never took Brooke/Lucas seriously. I’m sure he knew Brooke/Lucas brought down the ratings.

Kevin should be ashamed he abandoned his show.

***Jerry D*** · 02-26-2018, 06:20 PM

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It’s clear Lucas/Peyton = Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie.

Brooke/Lucas = Pacey/Joey.

Mark knew as much though which is why he never took Brooke/Lucas seriously. I’m sure he knew Brooke/Lucas brought down the ratings.

Kevin should be ashamed he abandoned his show.

He does it all the time though. I just don't understand it.

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