Everwood - Everwood Fans who are Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie Fans of DC #14: It eventually became Joey's Creek.

**jediwands** · 01-10-2018, 08:46 PM

This is an appreciation thread for Everwood fans who are also Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie fans. For those who shipped these pairings, the series once had such great promise, but ended up being one of the most disappointing series to date. TPTB enjoyed manipulating the heart and soul of the old school (seasons 1/2) Dawson's Creek audience, who embraced the premise and the main pairings of the show, Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie fans. The first two seasons defined Dawson's Creek. Season 3 came along and the show simply wasn't the same anymore. New showrunner who essentially mocked the premise, destroyed the main pairings, and was basically just fine with dropping the quality in order to make the series his own. We know the drill. Discussing our main pairings, as well frustrations over storylines, writing, TPTB, fandom in general, is also welcome here.

Note: This is not a debate thread with other ships. This thread is strictly for Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie fans to appreciate the pairings and discuss aspects of the show, both good and bad. This thread was originally created to celebrate friendships between a couple of regulars on the Everwood board who, back in the day, posted on the Dawson's Creek board and encountered some terrible fan wars and not so great moments. We wanted a safe place to discuss our thoughts here on the Everwood board. That is how this thread was created. Jerry D, our amazing Administrator, and my very good friend, came up with the idea and the rest is history. For those of you who ship other pairings and don't agree with the content of this thread, of course there's the Dawson's Creek board and other threads scattered throughout Fan Forum perfectly designed for you.

Thanks!

Credit Xelphia Kenny:

Alternate S5 & S6 : He made a solemn promise he would come and visit her. Hell, he even jotted it down in indelible black ink onto the crisp pages of her brand new journal while wearing a big toothy grin on his face, but regardless, it had been months since Pacey had made any contact with Andie. Andie forced herself not to overthink it and chalked it up to life getting in the way, but the smallest embers inside of her heart that yearned for him still despite everything that happened between them started to prickle at the back of her head. Although once the orientation process at Harvard was over and the real work began, Andie’s thoughts of Pacey Witter were sidelined in order to make room for the mountains and mountains of schoolwork she was receiving on a daily basis.

That was until, out of the blue, Pacey literally came sailing back into her life looking tanned, well rested, and even more gorgeous. Andie vowed to never let herself fall back in love with Pacey, she made an ironclad pledge to herself to never stray back into that hornet’s nest, but his soft, warm gaze pointed in her direction had Andie convinced his heart was remembering the way it used to love her.

She was one hundred percent correct in her assumptions.

The laughter between them settled into a deep warmth and easiness, and they talked well into the wee hours of the night and gradually, the intimacy they once coveted as a couple so long ago had returned to their bodies in triplicate. It started with Pacey’s hand brushing up against hers when she handed him a magazine from a convenience store shelf, which then evolved into their hugs becoming longer and more needy each time they touched. Soon enough, Pacey did the unthinkable, and asked Andie a question she never thought she’d hear again in her life from him…

Pacey Witter had asked her out on a date.

At first, they had both agreed to not invest too much of themselves into the date, stating an urge to take things as slow as they could in order to protect themselves from any harmful fallout, but Pacey and Andie’s mutually intense bedroom eyes that screamed “make love to me.” seemed to tell another story altogether. The immense pain of potentially opening up old wounds over how their relationship crumbled in the past fell to the wayside as Pacey and Andie ended up having passionate, raw, soul searing sex in Andie’s shower. Every single iota of mistrust, devastating heartbreak, and bad memories in their past circled its way down the drain.

And as Andie sat by her vanity, drying her hair and watching Pacey getting ready for bed, she smiled to herself. At long last, she finally felt like she could breathe again.

Fic Links that TL22 supplied and commented on:

1.Kiss Me Chapter 1, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

This takes place at the end of season four. It's my very first P/A story. two short chapters. My version on how the graduation could/should have went.

2.Thanksgiving, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

A short interlude of what could have happened between seasons three and four.

3.Finding True Love Chapter 1, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

Fourteen chapters of what could have happened in the future. I wrote it over two years. The story starts season three when Pacey is getting ready to sail away. The end of chapter one has a unique twist, I think you'll enjoy.

The following is by ElizabethBella who wrote a fantastic Pacey/Andie story. (My favourite)

Come Sail Away Chapter 1: Separate, and apart, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
This is a multi chaptered story, you won't be able to put down.

The next is another one of my favourites written by the very talented StevieLuvsAlex

No amount of time, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

The next is a two part Pacey/Andie story written by me and StevieLuvsAlex. The first part is hers and the second part written by me won't make any sense if the first part is not read. Very very short

Everything happens for a reason, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
Written by StevieluvsAlex

Everything Happens For a Reason part Two, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
Written by me and takes up where Everything Happens For a Reason leaves off

https://www.fanfiction.net/story/sto...toryid=7420836

This is a glimpse of Pacey, Andie, Joey and Dawson when they were very young. The story is two parts..

The next link is by the author Makesmyheadspin. IT is a bitter sweet story and really captures Pacey and Andie.

Springsteen, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

Fate is The Hunter, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

**jediwands** · 01-10-2018, 08:48 PM

Last page of posts on previous thread

**stlavin95** · 01-10-2018, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post)

TPTB hated Brooke/Lucas. They only liked attempting to take the delusional fans who loved Chad/Sophia and play off of them for a stupid Brucas 2.0 that made Brooke/Lucas look even worse than Part 1. I didn't think that was even possible.

Yeah, I can't blame them for not liking them at all

**Alexa** · 01-11-2018, 01:47 AM

yeah when you watch the BL story you HAVE to believe that the writers were there to sabotage them because there is no other explanation for that trainwreck of a relationship? They were utterly DESTROYED.

Though I felt the same about PJ until season 6.

YESSSS Michelle, the Jate moment! Now its coming back. UGH that scene.

Quote:

People called it Joey's Creek around this time, certainly once we hit season 5. Season 5, if you didn't know better, you would absolutely 100% believe it was Katie's show.

Oh for sure. Joey was the main character in season 5/6 hands down. Even parts of 3/4.

Quote:

Bottom line for me is I can't stand Pacey/Joey and Brooke/Lucas and wouldn't be able to stomach either of them.

Truth. I think they are my two least favorite pairings. BL just pure hatred for how bad they are, and for me with PJ, I think they are the most overrated pairing EVER. And that makes me dislike them 100x more.

Quote:

I couldn't stand Joey and Eddie for several reasons:
1. They were boring as hell.
2. Oliver Hudson couldn't act worth a damn.
3. Eddie was just a ploy to create a boyfriend that was a combination of Dawson and Pacey. Audrey even referred to that when she called Eddie the T1 of boyfriends.
4. Joey dumped Dawson because he was dating someone in California, an actress that he had a casual fling with and who he broke up with when he got back with Joey, but Eddie dumped her and she ran off to California during a school year to find him and then when he came back, she broke up with Pacey to go back to him. So the message is: Treat Joey nice and she'll break your heart but treat her like garbage and she'll always come back to you.

THIS WHOLE THING JERRY. I couldnt stand J/E.

And I hated how Joey treated Dawson. She treated him like dirt so many times and didnt act the same with other guys in her life.

**stlavin95** · 01-11-2018, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexa (View Post)

yeah when you watch the BL story you HAVE to believe that the writers were there to sabotage them because there is no other explanation for that trainwreck of a relationship? They were utterly DESTROYED.

To be honest, I really don't think there was much to destroy with BL tbf.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexa (View Post)

Truth. I think they are my two least favorite pairings. BL just pure hatred for how bad they are, and for me with PJ, I think they are the most overrated pairing EVER. And that makes me dislike them 100x more.

Who do you hate more? And which couple do you think treated each other worse than the other?

**jediwands** · 01-11-2018, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post)

Yeah, I can't blame them for not liking them at all

I can't blame them either. What is to like about Brooke/Lucas? They were a disaster of epic proportions.

**stlavin95** · 01-11-2018, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post)

I can't blame them either. What is to like about Brooke/Lucas? They were a disaster of epic proportions.

They really were

Do you think Pacey/Joey were written better than Brucas?

**jediwands** · 01-11-2018, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexa (View Post)

yeah when you watch the BL story you HAVE to believe that the writers were there to sabotage them because there is no other explanation for that trainwreck of a relationship? They were utterly DESTROYED.

Though I felt the same about PJ until season 6.

Great parallel, really. Brooke/Lucas season 1 and Brooke/Lucas 2nd time were never written with one ounce of hope. They were always constructed in a way that defined disaster, not meant to be. It was really draining to watch. I cannot believe some people actually thought there was any hope between them, let alone genuine moments. I can't wait for Jerry to finally see what we're talking about when he watches the early seasons. I know he's going to agree with us.

Pacey/Joey season 6 was a prime example of a Brooke/Lucas flavor, too. Pacey/Joey were not written with hope in season 6... it was for closure, a final nail in the coffin for them. That was Brucas 2.0. Finally putting the couples out of their misery.

Kevin comes along to write Creek series finale, naturally writing a Dawson/Joey ending, a hopeful Pacey/Andie ending but then Stupin got involved and the rest is history. It was insulting to the audience that Pacey/Joey would get that ending. Seasons 4 and 6 were written in a way that told us it was impossible.

At least Mark, the monster, never even faked it with Brooke/Lucas. He wrote them as a disaster not once but twice, without even a sniff of a happy ending. Thankfully.

Quote:

YESSSS Michelle, the Jate moment! Now its coming back. UGH that scene.

I could watch that scene and the ones that follow over and over again.

Quote:

Oh for sure. Joey was the main character in season 5/6 hands down. Even parts of 3/4.

Quote:

Truth. I think they are my two least favorite pairings. BL just pure hatred for how bad they are, and for me with PJ, I think they are the most overrated pairing EVER. And that makes me dislike them 100x more.

Amen.

Quote:

THIS WHOLE THING JERRY. I couldnt stand J/E.

And I hated how Joey treated Dawson. She treated him like dirt so many times and didnt act the same with other guys in her life.

I will never get over how they finally get together romantically at the end of season 1, and then episodes later in season 2 she's off finding herself. Okay then.

**stlavin95** · 01-11-2018, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post)

Great parallel, really. Brooke/Lucas season 1 and Brooke/Lucas 2nd time were never written with one ounce of hope. They were always constructed in a way that defined disaster, not meant to be. It was really draining to watch. I cannot believe some people actually thought there was any hope between them, let alone genuine moments. I can't wait for Jerry to finally see what we're talking about when he watches the early seasons. I know he's going to agree with us.

Jerry really needs to join on our OTH rewatch on the main board

**jediwands** · 01-11-2018, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post)

They really were

Do you think Pacey/Joey were written better than Brucas?

Slight better but that's not saying much.

For me, it goes back to the history. They knew each other as children. Yes, they were around each other for Dawson but at least there was some sort of history, even love/hate between them. As a result, they didn't get together in a manipulative way like Brooke/Lucas. Some of their moments while together romantically, even if they were nauseating, at least you bought that they could stand to be in the same room together and that's not something we could ever say about Brooke/Lucas. LOL I never bought anything about Pacey/Joey romantically though. But I did buy a nice build up of friendship in season 3. They became true friends. Granted, it was all in the plan to do the unthinkable and devastate Dawson at the end of season 3 when it entered romantic territory. But I don't think many can argue that they weren't true friends in season 3 because they were. So I'd have to go with Pacey/Joey as far as writing.

**jediwands** · 01-11-2018, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post)

Jerry really needs to join on our OTH rewatch on the main board

That would be great! He could also post thoughts here. We could talk about it both places.

**stlavin95** · 01-11-2018, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post)

Slight better but that's not saying much.

For me, it goes back to the history. They knew each other as children. Yes, they were around each other for Dawson but at least there was some sort of history, even love/hate between them. As a result, they didn't get together in a manipulative way like Brooke/Lucas. Some of their moments while together romantically, even if they were nauseating, at least you bought that they could stand to be in the same room together and that's not something we could ever say about Brooke/Lucas. LOL I never bought anything about Pacey/Joey romantically though. But I did buy a nice build up of friendship in season 3. They became true friends. Granted, it was all in the plan to do the unthinkable and devastate Dawson at the end of season 3 when it entered romantic territory. But I don't think many can argue that they weren't true friends in season 3 because they were. So I'd have to go with Pacey/Joey as far as writing.

Okay true, but at the same time it's not hard to have an better build up then BL did

**stlavin95** · 01-11-2018, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post)

That would be great! He could also post thoughts here. We could talk about it both places.

He would just need to watch 9 episodes before we start up again.

**jediwands** · 01-11-2018, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post)

Okay true, but at the same time it's not hard to have an better build up then BL did

Exactly, which is why I said that’s not saying much.

It’s weird trying to pimp Pacey/Joey because they’re horrible but Brooke/Lucas by comparison are atrocious.

**jediwands** · 01-11-2018, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post)

He would just need to watch 9 episodes before we start up again.

Oh okay. When are we starting up again?

Forum Affiliates
Emily VanCamp, Chris Pratt Universe, Emily VanCamp Brasil, Chris Pratt Web
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page


Fan Forum > TV Shows - Past > Everwood > Everwood Fans who are Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie Fans of DC #14: It eventually became Joey's Creek.