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Old 01-23-2018, 10:01 PM
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Definitely.

For as strange as this sounds, I feel better knowing that things couldn’t have been worked out for Chad/Hilarie to stay. We know precisely why Hilarie left. We know it was an impossible situation that could never be worked out. In the past I was frustrated feeling like maybe egos were involved and there could have been a way to give us more Lucas/Peyton. There was absolutely no way and I find it refreshing in a sense.
I feel the same way.
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:50 AM
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I feel the same way.
Right? It's not like we're saying we are glad this horrible, impossible situation transpired. It's just... there's clarity knowing Lucas/Peyton did end at the right time. Some make the case that the finale of 4 would have made a great series finale. But overall, Lucas/Peyton had to be concluded for sure in the finale of 6... well, minus that one episode in season 9 with Chad/Lucas giving us confirmation that yes, Lucas/Peyton/family made it and were doing beautifully long term. But everything happened the way it was meant to happen given the circumstances.
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:10 PM
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Right? It's not like we're saying we are glad this horrible, impossible situation transpired. It's just... there's clarity knowing Lucas/Peyton did end at the right time. Some make the case that the finale of 4 would have made a great series finale. But overall, Lucas/Peyton had to be concluded for sure in the finale of 6... well, minus that one episode in season 9 with Chad/Lucas giving us confirmation that yes, Lucas/Peyton/family made it and were doing beautifully long term. But everything happened the way it was meant to happen given the circumstances.
Yeah, I think that way too.
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:37 PM
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Yeah, I think that way too.


Do you find it weird the no one else left like Joy?
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:43 PM
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Do you find it weird the no one else left like Joy?
What do you mean by that?
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Old 01-24-2018, 07:36 PM
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What do you mean by that?
That only Hilarie left due to Mark. Chad, to a lesser extent, obviously for different reasons. I wonder why the others didn't want to leave when she did.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:11 PM
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That only Hilarie left due to Mark. Chad, to a lesser extent, obviously for different reasons. I wonder why the others didn't want to leave when she did.
I'm not sure why they didn't actually.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:45 AM
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I'm not sure why they didn't actually.
Does this mean it was the worst for Hilarie? I mean, it seems so, but he definitely tortured others too.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:51 AM
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Does this mean it was the worst for Hilarie? I mean, it seems so, but he definitely tortured others too.
It seems that it was the worst for Hilarie and Danneel. However Danneel got away way faster so in that sense it seems that it was the worst for Hilarie.
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Old 01-25-2018, 01:39 PM
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It seems that it was the worst for Hilarie and Danneel. However Danneel got away way faster so in that sense it seems that it was the worst for Hilarie.
I think you're right.
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:29 PM
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Does this mean it was the worst for Hilarie? I mean, it seems so, but he definitely tortured others too.
I think it was Hilarie and Danneel for the first 6 seasons, but I'm not sure who got the worst of it in the last 3 seasons.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:31 PM
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I think it was Hilarie and Danneel for the first 6 seasons, but I'm not sure who got the worst of it in the last 3 seasons.
Possible the last 3 seasons were fairly calm?
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:36 PM
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Possible the last 3 seasons were fairly calm?
Doubt that or Shantel wouldn't have signed that letter.
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Doubt that or Shantel wouldn't have signed that letter.
Oh that's right. Great point.
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Doubt that or Shantel wouldn't have signed that letter.
It does seem that Shantel took Hilarie's place . You could see it in the way he wrote Quin to fully replace Peyton. At least I have read that most of you feel this way.
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