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Old 05-28-2019, 08:51 AM
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I posted a couple somewhat in depth posts on the last page of the previous thread, Sam, that I wanted you to see...

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I wonder if maybe he didn't even think Naley would stick. He was throwing them out there just to see. Fan response was off the charts so he knew he had to go with them. Maybe he didn't want to? He might have figured they were only short term to get the desired frustrated response from Lucas. But then again, he did say the actors had chemistry. Of course he could still say that and not put his heart and soul into them. Who knows. It's just very clear his heart and soul was all about Leyton, not really Naley, and certainly not Brucas. He didn't even try with Brucas which is why it's so comical to me people thought Brucas had a shot. Every scene he wrote for Brucas was all about not meant to be, unhealthy, never lasting, superficial, all about sex, lack of emotional connection.
I always got the impression that he didn't intend to make them that couple who stayed together for the whole show and that he was going to drag out their separation in S2. I also heard some rumours that he wanted to break them up for a bit in S5, but that idea got nixed.
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It was really obvious based on promo pictures in season 1 the original intention was a big time triangle between Nathan/Peyton/Lucas:

You can just tell that's where it was going initially. Then Mark probably put together Nathan/Haley to cause more trouble between Lucas and Nathan. He went away from Nathan/Peyton/Lucas which is fine by me because I did not like the abusive nature (neglect, emotional type of abuse) Nathan was giving Peyton. It made my skin crawl. I couldn't imagine a character like Peyton putting up with and even still wanting to be with Nathan. It was clear she was over him very very early season 1 and it made sense for her character TO feel that way.
It certainly was I actually wouldn't have for that triangle to be the main focus in S1 at least, partly because I wanted to see more focus on LN, which I felt was lacking when they shifted to BPL/NH.
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It certainly was I actually wouldn't have for that triangle to be the main focus in S1 at least, partly because I wanted to see more focus on LN, which I felt was lacking when they shifted to BPL/NH.
Big time lacking. Really sad. It's unfortunate the the romantic relationships had to be set up so quickly. I mean, you can established Leyton in The Pilot like he did but then delay them. Same with Naley. You are right, the focus should have been on LN.
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