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Everwood – The Stories Left To Tell - New Thread
Hi everyone! The old thread was having some technical problems so I'm starting a new thread and I'll bring over the recent posts from that thread. Thanks!
Hi everyone! I think the thing that frustrates me the most about the cancellation of Everwood is that there were so many stories left to tell on this wonderful show. A lot of television shows run out of stories to tell, especially if a show focuses one particular group of characters, like say, teenagers in high school in a small town like Dawson’s Creek did. When the Dawson’s Creek characters graduated from high school and moved away from Capeside, something special was lost, and I feel that the show foundered in its two final seasons because it lost much of what made it special, so by the time the show was cancelled, it was well past its prime, and it really didn’t have a lot more stories to tell, and everyone was ready to move on from it, including the actors on the show. With Everwood, however, there were still a lot more stories to tell, because this show never primarily focused on only the teenage characters, it focused on all of the characters, and it gave equal weight and equal time to some very interesting and diverse main characters. The show also solved the problem of “losing” the teenage characters once they graduated from high school by having them remain in Everwood and either have them go to college nearby, or get a job and still remain home. More importantly, however, the show still featured all of the adult characters and gave them stories of substance and depth, and to me, this show could have gone on indefinitely. Therefore, I’d like to discuss the directions that this show could have taken next season and in subsequent seasons, so we can all still talk about our favorite show even though the idiots at The Completely Worthless Network cancelled it. I’ll throw out a few ideas for storylines for next season, but feel free to add your own. Ephram and Madison: We had read that Ephram was going to get a call from Madison at the end of the Season Finale if the show hadn’t been cancelled, and we wouldn’t have gotten an Ephram and Amy reunion at the end of the episode because of it. What I envision was that Madison was going to tell Ephram that she made a mistake in giving up their child for adoption, and that she wanted his help in trying to get their child back. I don’t think that Ephram would still have romantic feelings for Madison, but I think he would be torn about the possibility of maybe getting to play a role in his child’s life, and I could see him going to help Madison, which would complicate his relationship with Amy. Harold and Rose: I could see Harold and Rose getting attached to Lily, and then having Cathy come back at the 11th hour saying that she was better now and that she wanted her baby back, and I could see a lot of drama coming from this story. Andy and Nina: I could see a lot of conflict between Andy, Nina, and Sam, as we know how much Sam loved Jake, and I could see a lot of roadblocks to Andy and Nina getting married because of this. I hope we can get some good discussions going, because I do feel that there were still a lot of stories left to tell on Everwood, and we have some great posters here to help tell those stories. Thanks! __________________
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A lot of us felt that the reason Madison was returning was because she wanted her baby back, and she wanted to have Ephram assert his paternal rights to get the baby back because technically he didn't give up those rights because Madison didn't name him as the father when she gave her baby up for adoption. We felt that Ephram would turn her down because he wouldn't want his baby taken away from the parents who adopted him and who were providing him a loving home and raising him, so there would be some turmoil over that but hopefully Madison would go away and never be heard from again.
At the very least, the Madison storyline would delay Ephram and Amy's reunion because one, Amy would have felt humiliated by putting her heart on the line and renting that Ferris Wheel only to find out that Ephram had gone in to call Madison, and two, it would have brought back for Amy how much Ephram hurt her when he found out that she knew about Madison having his baby before he did. All in all, having Madison return was a bad idea, just like having her get involved with Ephram in the first place was a bad idea. __________________
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That makes a lot of sense to me, but also feels like a lot of drama! (If she was as levelheaded as she seemed, maybe Madison wouldn't want to take the baby out of the care of the adoptive parents.)
But maybe season 5 of Everwood would have gone into One Tree Hill territory, which for me felt like by season 5 it kind of went off the train tracks (a nanny hired by a family kidnaps their baby for ransom), where as the previous seasons while dramatic didn't feel as soapy as the rest. Then again, s2 of Everwood could be considered "soapy" - but it never felt that way totally. Sure, Ephram was into Hot Babysitter, Madison, and Amy was Depressed and Into a Bad Boy (tropes for sure), but it never felt so dramatized it was a soap opera. It still felt like the show. Which is why maybe season 5 would've had these tropes but still maintained its groundness. (ahh, one can dream) One can just dream about an Everwood reunion on camera. |
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Now I guess I'll just have to imagine a Madison-less season 5. *plugs ears* I like to imagine season 5 would have more of a focus on Delia. She would be starting high school, having a new (step) mom and (step) brother, plus her dramatic older brother always stopping by for "free food" as he says. But maybe Amy would come with him. I still can't imagine Ephram not going outside and seeing that Ferris Wheel. I can't imagine that happening. 1) You could probably see the colored lights from his apartment windows Just saying.... 2) Even if he gets a call from Madison and/or goes out the door to see Stephanie he will still.......see Amy and the Ferris Wheel |
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I saw an interview where somebody asked Emily VanCamp what she thought Amy Abbott would be up to & she said happily married to Ephram. We deserve that ending for them. (Good riddance, Madison, you've done enough harm to this town ) |
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I sort of feel like Ephram got his closure with her (4x15) so I am glad the show officially ended with the original couple of the show Amy and Ephram . We got all we needed from the last episode, even if it felt kinda fan-fic-y (Andy proposing to Nina). And Delia even got her horse __________________
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One of the rumored storylines for Season Five was that Nina, while with Andy, would find out that she was pregnant with Jake's child. It was another soapy storyline that Greg Berlanti supposedly pitched to The C.W. to try to get the show renewed. __________________
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Berlanti basically stated when he threw out Season 5 ideas that they would be temporary and he bluntly told the Everwood audience to trust him... meaning in so many words he was playing a game with the CW to conjure up some soapy storylines but the second the show was renewed we would see the storylines would be tied up very quickly.
Apparently Madison was only returning for something baby-related and it would be swift. Sarah would only be in one or two episodes. It was to conclude the baby storyline and the strong speculation is Madison was going to be Madison, all selfish and only thinking of herself... she would think about taking the baby away and reverse the adoption. She needed to go to Ephram for help with this, she wanted him to support her and sign the right documents to go there. Since she wouldn't be around long, we all assumed this to mean she either changes her mind or fails during the process. There was also strong speculation that Delia would be focused on much more in Season 5. Her story was just beginning when unfortunately, the show was forced to conclude. It sure would have been nice seeing Andy/Nina adjust to being together, getting married and the family as a whole adjusting. I am sure this would be featured too. I was also interested in seeing the new relationship between Edna and Harold. Irv's passing would obviously change things drastically for Edna and I have a feeling we would have seen a brand new Edna/Harold dynamic. Regarding Madison fans... she didn't have many. There was an Ephram/Madison shipping thread a couple people posted on. I was friendly with them since I am a moderator, lol, but I also liked the posters and they never caused any trouble. They understood the relationship was messed up, illegal, and wasn't meant to be seen in a positive light. They still liked it even with this knowledge. I did notice a lot of them were more Sarah Lancaster fans though so I think that's where most of their thoughts were coming from. |
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Also talk about SOAPY! Wow. Nina pregnant with Jake's baby while being with Andy...talk about drama. __________________
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It seems like all the higher-ups were in love with Scott Wolf. Speculation was he just had so much time left on the contract so they kept Jake around for far too long.
I believe the series finale was pretty close to perfect overall. That said, the most disappointing part of the series finale was Nina and Jake being the one to recognize the obvious. She looked so passive. No one doubted that she wanted to be with Andy. The story for four seasons clearly demonstrated this fact. But Jake should not have been the one to tell her what everyone already knew. |
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I think my favorite part of the Series finale besides the Ferris Wheel scene was Amy obsessing over Ephram and Stephanie at Delia's Bat Mitzvah in front of Bright and Hannah. In that scene, Emily showed that she could handle comical scenes very well, and she also showed that she's Harold's daughter! __________________
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