Everwood - OT2 Thread #107: Life After Everwood: Other Addictions (TV Shows, Movies, Music)

everwoodfan52 · 10-20-2017, 11:29 AM

Welcome to OT2 Thread #107!

This is the second OT thread that focuses on shows, movies, music we love since Everwood ended.

This thread is about discussing shows, movies, and music. Bring over your opinions on latest episodes, discuss characters and storylines, movies you're watching, music you're listening to.

Shows Everwood members watch:

Michelle: Chesapeake Shores, Supergirl, The Flash, Riverdale, The 100

Betty: (past and present)
Past: ( Everwood, Friday Night Lights, Gilmore Girls, OTH, Parenthood) Present: Pretty Little Liars, Blue Bloods, The Blacklist, Supergirl, The 100, Grace & Frankie, Chesapeake Shores, Graham Norton Show, This Is Us, The Killing

Ashley (AppleBehry22):
Gilmore Girls, One Tree Hill, Nip/Tuck, Roswell, Reba, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Lost

dawnie@:
Gilmore Girls, Lost, One Tree Hill, 24 ,Hell's Kitchen2

Alan (The Crow):
Once Upon a Time, Elementary, NCIS: LA, Scorpion, Gotham, Lucifer, Supergirl, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Brooklyn Nine-Nine, The Flash, Modern Family, blackish, Blindspot, Chicago PD, Lethal Weapon, Arrow, The 100, Rosewood, Pitch, Superstore, The Good Place, The Blacklist, MacGyver, Hawaii Five-0, Teen Wolf, Scream, Grimm, Baby Daddy, Stitchers, The Good Witch, Chesapeake Shores, Wynonna Earp, Mr Robot, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, The Originals, iZombie, Riverdale, APB

Tos':
Mad Men, Dexter, Fringe, Chuck, Castle, Psych, Parks & Recreation, Community, Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, Futurama, Being Human, White Collar, Louie, New Girl, Up All Night, Revenge, Person of Interest

Coffee:
Watch: Prison Break, Supernatural, House, Gilmore Girls
Want to watch but always miss it: Bones, Grey's Anatomy, Veronica Mars
Future Shows, I'm planning on watching: Jericho, Heroes..

own worst enemy:
Desperate Housewives, Brothers & Sisters, True Blood, Dexter, Weeds, Big Love, How I Met Your Mother, The Big Bang Theory, One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, 90210, Smallville, Scrubs, Better Off Ted, Grey's Anatomy, Lost, Private Practice, Ugly Betty, The Office, 30 Rock, Top Chef, So You Think You Can Dance, The Hills, My Life on the D List, American Idol, Dollhouse, Mad Men, Nip/Tuck, Fringe
New shows: Melrose Place, The Beautiful Life, The Vampire Diaries, Flash Forward, Bored to Death, Glee

MrsBrown: The Office, Lost, Friday Night Lights, Brothers and Sisters, Battlestar Galactica

ShadowMagist: How I Met Your Mother, Greek, Smallville, Supernatural, Desperate Housewives, Brothers and Sisters, Glee, Vampire Diaries, It's Always Raining In Philadelphia.

Thief Of Love: Mad Men, Psych, Gilmore Girls, The Office, Parks & Recreation

Shelby (Cowgirl08): Chuck, Friday Night Lights, 90210, One Tree Hill, Greek, Secret Life of the American Teenager, Make it or Break it, White Collar

Rolfi Cole: Outsourced, Modern Family, Castle, Chuck, Psych, The Mentalist, TVD, Community, House, Ghost Whisperer, Smallville, Supernatural

ForVanAngel: LOST, Gilmore Girls, Six Feet Under, Everwood, Friday Night Lights, The Wire, Dexter, Dawson’s Creek, Roswell, Seinfeld, Malcolm In The Middle, Scrubs, Breaking Bad, Parenthood, Home Improvement, Rescue Me, Mad Men, My So-Called Life, Parks and Recreation, Brothers & Sisters, Switched At Birth, Eli Stone, American Dreams, Community, Skins UK, The Big Bang Theory, One Tree Hill, The Shield, Alias, Freaks and Geeks, Party Of Five, Ally McBeal, Death Note, Lizzie McGuire, That ‘70s Show, The Middle, The L.A. Complex, The Hour, The Wonder Years, Wilfred US.

Blue Valentine: Modern family, Brothers and Sisters, Fringe, How I Met Your Mother, The Vampire Diaries, 90210, Nikita, One Tree Hill,
Favorite Shows: Everwood, Joan Of Arcadia.

Patricia: Law & Order: SVU, Nashville, Supernatural, One Tree Hill, Everwood, Gilmore Girls, Bones, Chasing Life, Castle, Pretty Little Liars, How To Get Away With Murder, Extreme Weight Loss, Girl Meets World, Grey's Anatomy, Wahlburgers.

LemonyPie: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Frasier, Dawson's Creek, Revenge, Suburgatory, Hart of Dixie, The Middle, Modern Family, Dancing with the Stars, Community, Dexter, Against the Wall

Shu/ds44: Suits, Flash, Pitch, Chesapeake Shores, Empire, This is Us, Animal Kingdom, Queen Sugar, JTV, The Originals, Riverdale

Louisa C: Watched in full or almost: The OC, Veronica Mars, Gilmore Girls, Desperate Housewives, Monk, Medium, Parenthood, The Big Bang Theory, Everwood, Being Erica, Grey's Anatomy, Castle...

Purchased, but not yet started or only a few episodes/1st Season watched: Friday Night Lights, Drop Dead Diva, The Closer, Gossip Girl, Once Upon A Time, The Killing, New Girl, My Name Is Earl, Fame, Parks & Recreation, In Treatment, Damages, The Good Wife, Fringe, White Collar, How I met Your Mother, Dexter, Game Of Thrones, Pretty Little Liars, Smash, Lie To Me, Dawson's Creek, The Mentalist...

Alwayshappy: Shows that ended :
Gilmore Girls ( which is my absolute favorite EVER ), Charmed, Everwood, One Tree Hill, Dawson's Creek, The OC, Damages, The Closer, Desperate Housewives, Brothers & Sisters, Lost, Fringe ( although I'm not up to date yet ), Medium, Ghost Whisperer, Ally McBeal, Private Practice, Veronica Mars, In Treatment, Roswell & Sex and the City
Shows that are still airing :
The Good Wife, Grey's Anatomy ( those 2 are my favorite 2 shows on the air right now ), Revenge, Bones ( not up to date yet - I'm at the end of S6 ), Once Upon a Time ( not up to date-watching season 1 for first time ), Vampire Diaries, Criminal Minds, Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, Community, The Killing USA, Downton Abbey, Parenthood ( not up to date yet ), Bunheads, Switched at Birth ( not up to date ), Californication, True Blood, Suits ( not up to date ), Scandal ( not up to date ), Major Crimes ( not up to date ), Homeland & White Collar.

Jamie: Present: New Girl,Chicago PD, Suits, Better Call Saul, Scandal, Awkward, Undateable, Girls Past: (in addition to our Everwood of course), Breaking Bad, Revenge, Parenthood
One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, Dawson's Creek, The Office, The O.C., Veronica Mars, Gilmore Girls

**jediwands** · 10-20-2017, 11:48 AM

Thanks for the new one!

Regarding Riverdale... Kelly Ripa's husband, Mark Consuelos, plays Veronica's father and oh man does he do a nice job, LOL.

**jediwands** · 10-20-2017, 11:48 AM

It's like having a version of the Godfather in every episode, LOL.

I would watch the first two when you have a chance and then make a decision. It's seriously so much darker and more interesting, it's way less about soapy romantic ships. I think you'd enjoy the adult storylines too.

Remember Miss Grundy? The child rapist? She was murdered in cold blood. This killer who almost killed Fred, killed Grundy, and now has attempted to murder Moose and Midge is really scary. Archie is suffering from PTSD and I swear, I don't scare easily but I'm jumping all the time thinking the killer will show up. What this killer did to Midge and Moose reminded me of the Zodiac Killer. So freaky!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everwoodfan52 · 10-20-2017, 12:10 PM

You're welcome! You've got me tempted! ^^^^^

**jediwands** · 10-20-2017, 01:01 PM

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You're welcome! You've got me tempted! ^^^^^

Good.

**jediwands** · 10-20-2017, 02:51 PM

Good recap of Riverdale 2.2 in case anyone who hasn't watched just wants to read what went on or to refresh anyone's memory:

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Riverdale Recap: Party at the Death Diner

Riverdale Recap: Party at the Death Diner

The youthful sexiness of Riverdale’s main ensemble rightly gets a lot of attention, but I don’t want us to overlook the veritable Justice League of Hot Dads that the show has managed to assemble. (Welcome to the club, Mark Consuelos.) Speaking of, Skeet Ulrich is back, baby!

Faced with charges like arson, destruction of evidence, and that messy matter of dumping Jason Blossom’s corpse in Sweetwater River, F.P.’s court-appointed lawyer strongly encourages his client to take an unappealing plea deal: 20 years in prison. Oof. One of the Serpents suggests Jughead seek the services of “snake handler” Penny Peabody, the gang’s covertly tattooed attorney who operates in the backroom of a tattoo parlor. She explains that F.P.’s best shot is if the victim’s family forgives him in front of the judge. No charge for the advice, she tells Jughead, but she might need a favor in return one day. Ah, yes. Those arrangements always end well, don’t they?

Betty and Jughead pay a visit to Cheryl and her mother at their new home, Thistlehouse, to ask for their cooperation. Still-recovering Penelope is a vision of hagsploitation glory, in a jeweled silk turban and matching robe over lace and gauze. Betty may be family to them, but she’d sooner F.P. fry in the electric chair than publicly forgive him. The surviving Blossoms just want to put their (many) family tragedies behind them, as soon as possible.

Meanwhile, Archie can’t stop dozing off while guarding the house, in case the Green-Eyed Man should return to finish the job. Is this really his plan? Just do this forever and never sleep? Archie is so dumb. Newly recast Reggie (who, thank God, is still very cute), an enterprising young drug dealer, offers him a whole menu of uppers to help keep him awake. Wanna try jingle jangle, a new drug with an even more ridiculous name than Glint on Strangers With Candy? He just sold some to Midge Klump, who is wearing what I can only describe as a wig modeled after Shirley MacLaine’s hairstyle in The Apartment.

In late-night watchdog mode and a baseball bat at his side, Archie spies a masked figure creeping up to his backdoor. He tackles him, only to discover it’s Reggie, making his delivery and generally being a jerk. What if it wasn’t, though? What was Archie going to do? As Reggie correctly observes, “Only a dumb-ass lunatic brings a baseball bat to a gunfight.” Archie’s quality of life declines yet again when the principal announces that former Riverdale High music teacher and statutory rapist Miss Grundy has been murdered. She was strangled with a cello bow — very possibly the one Archie gave her as a gift. Sheriff Keller reveals that Miss Grundy’s abusive ex-husband isn’t a suspect because he has a solid alibi. Could the killer, whoever he is, be targeting the people Archie cares about?

Archie and his dad aren’t the only ones suffering in the wake of the shooting. Poor Pop is heartbroken. Someone graffitied “DEATH DINER” on the Chock’lit Shoppe, his entire staff has quit, and he’s considering selling the business to the aptly named liquor store chain Chugmo. (Side note: I would gladly pay a 200 percent markup to go to a Death Diner.)

As Betty pitches Kevin and Veronica her idea for a throwback fundraiser to save Pop’s, Hiram bursts into the school newspaper office with a bouquet in his arms. “Daddy?” Veronica says. “Daddy?!” Kevin and Betty say, with a strong undertone of zaddy. But as much as Hiram might want to be a happy family again, Veronica is doing her best to avoid her dad, whom she still suspects had something to do with Fred’s shooting (which he vociferously denies). She’d been all ready to welcome her father back home, she explains, until he sent her that letter threatening her mother if she didn’t obey him. Or did he? Hermione tells her daughter that she wrote the letter to manipulate Veronica into testifying on her father’s behalf.

Manipulation is in the air in Riverdale tonight, or maybe it’s just the jingle jangle. Betty confronts Cheryl in the locker room (of course Cheryl installed red mood lighting in her locker) and threatens to circulate the video of Clifford shooting Jason Blossom if she doesn’t 1) Help out Jughead and F.P. and 2) Lend the services of her newly reclaimed Vixens to volunteer at Pop’s. Fine. In court, Cheryl expresses her family’s forgiveness for F.P., but the judge isn’t impressed. And so she lies under oath: She says her father threatened to hurt Jughead if F.P. didn’t do his bidding. Well, in that case, the judge will have to reevaluate.

Retro Night proves to be a hit, with kids in ’50s outfits and roller skates working the restaurant. (It’s a tremendous liability on linoleum, what with the milkshakes being slung in every which direction, but whatever.) Val is down with norovirus — too much Chipotle, one has to imagine — and so Cheryl selflessly volunteers to take her place among the Pussycats for a supposedly impromptu yet professionally lit and custom-arranged performance of Kelis’s “Milkshake” on the roof. Even the Lodges arrive to show their support. Touched, Veronica tells her parents she’s ready for a “new beginning.” Hiram offers to make a “charitable contribution” to Pop’s, with visions of sweet, sweet tax write-offs seemingly dancing in his head. But little does Veronica know that Lodge Industries secretly buys the diner, promising Pop Tate a job so long as he shuts up about the change in ownership. Worse, we learn that Hermione didn’t write that letter after all, but only lied to cover for her husband. (When is she going to get fed up with him?)

Another development to file under Daddy Issues: Jug gets a phone call from F.P. in jail, who is furious his son went to see Penny Peabody, and even worse, that he didn’t pay her. He orders Jughead to cut off all contact with this woman: “You do not want to be in bed with a snake charmer.”

Over on Sweetwater Bridge, Archie has a secret meeting with Dilton Doiley. Riverdale’s favorite bargain-basement Wes Anderson character hands Archie a backpack … and inside, there’s a gun. Archie! No, bad! Leave it! Into your crate!

Meanwhile, parked in a remote make-out spot, Midge and her boyfriend, Moose, do some jingle jangle, which delightfully, looks exactly like Pixie Stix. But the Man With the Green Eyes has other plans. He approaches the car, flashlight in hand, and shoots the young lovers in a very Zodiac moment. Moose and Midge — and most important, Midge’s hair — we hardly knew ye.

**jediwands** · 10-20-2017, 02:52 PM

My thoughts on Riverdale 2.2

1. Archie has full on PTSD and I appreciate TPTB accurately depicting how severe PTSD can be.

2. Nice seeing Fred make an almost full recovery but he seems so passive and okay with everything. It's kind of strange. Where's Mary, too?

3. That "lawyer" Jughead went to is evil. She has to be... evil! FP looked broken as he's telling Jughead never to speak to her again so we need to believe him.

4. Smithers canned because of Hiram is just wrong.

5. Liked the touches/kisses between Veronica/Archie and Betty/Jughead in this one. I liked that their relationships were there but also in the background while the scary mystery prevailed.

6. Jug: “Another B and V team up. They should really make a video game about you guys.”

7. Loved the Archie/Jughead conversation.

8. Reggie 2.0 is interesting but don't be giving Archie drugs, dude!

9. Archie also getting a gun is simply not going to end well. Dilton, why did you give him the gun?

10. I have a theory that Betty's brother (we were told he's making an appearance in this season) could be the serial killer.

11. Betty fighting for both Pops and FP was awesome. I knew Betty would take care of Cheryl.

12. Josie interacting with the girls at least a little was appreciated. Like Josie/Cheryl.

13. Cheryl about Bughead: “Hobo. Bride of Hobo.” LOL

14. I started being really suspicious of Hermione towards the end of season 1 and now she is officially shady as fck. I knew she didn't write that letter. I cannot believe she lied to her daughter for her very shady/possibly evil husband.

15. Jughead/Veronica scene was wonderful! It was the first true friendship alone scene between them and I loved it.

16. Alice listening to Betty/Archie, sleuthing, relaying the news to Fred/Archie was great. Alice coming to the diner was nice and her comments to Betty were actually very true. I love the actress who plays Alice. She's just so wonderful in the role.

17. Loved Cheryl coming through for FP. I wonder if he'll get time served? I assume yes since they cannot keep his pretty face in prison... bad things happen when you're that pretty in prison, LOL.

18. Core Four scene at the end was great.

19. I knew Hiram bought the diner. I also feel scared for Veronica. I always get the sense that something bad is going to happen to her the more she talks back to her parents.

20. I'm also scared for Jughead. Those Serpents are bad, bad news and it seems like he's trusting them more and more by the minute.

21. That ending attempted or legit murder scene was so scary... terrorizing! The serial killer is stealing from the Zodiac Killer!

22. This season is really good but really scary.

**stlavin95** · 10-20-2017, 07:48 PM

Thanks for the new one. Will catch up on Riverdale next week.

**Alexa** · 10-20-2017, 09:05 PM

ive seen people complaining about season 2 already and I'm like :???: There been 2 damn episodes.

Plus i AGREE with michelle, this season is much creepier/scarier. I like it so much already, theres a lot going on.

**stlavin95** · 10-20-2017, 09:24 PM

I like the creepy stuff for some reason, so I will probably enjoy season 2 a bit lol.

**jediwands** · 10-21-2017, 09:12 AM

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Thanks for the new one. Will catch up on Riverdale next week.

Looking forward to your thoughts!

**jediwands** · 10-21-2017, 09:14 AM

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ive seen people complaining about season 2 already and I'm like :???: There been 2 damn episodes.

Plus i AGREE with michelle, this season is much creepier/scarier. I like it so much already, theres a lot going on.

Wow, are you kidding me? What the heck are people complaining about?

I think this season so far has been really good. I like that the two pairings are settled in and drama-free (for right now) and we're mainly focusing on the mystery because it's so well written and really scary! I love the introduction to Hiram, Reggie 2.0. I think it's really hitting and sticking this season so far. It's like the show has found its identity. You can just feel the characters coming to life way more than season 1 even. KJ Apa has been outstanding showing Archie with the PTSD. He's just shining in the role. So many people last season were indifferent or even disliked Archie. This season? The vast majority are loving the character and I think it's mostly due to KJ Apa and his great acting. People forget that the guy is pulling off an American accent too so he has that to deal with and he's mastered the accent, along with some great acting. He's been so good! So much is happening, I love that it's not just a teen soap. Like you said though it's only two episodes in! Both episodes have been really good!

The Crow · 10-21-2017, 11:20 AM

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secretk · 10-21-2017, 11:44 AM

Thanks for the new thread Betty!

I still have not watched a single episode of the new Chicago PD season

. I would not be surprised if I end up watching the episodes around Christmas

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**Alexa** · 10-21-2017, 01:18 PM

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Wow, are you kidding me? What the heck are people complaining about?

idk some of my friends on the 100 board were saying they were bored with premiere. I dont get it.

Another friend said she couldnt get into the show. I dont understand personally, I was hooked from the beginning.

It moves a lot faster than some other shows, which I like.

I love that the show is also a mix of mystery/scary and also funny but then theres romance too.

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