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I do find it interesting reading past episode discussion threads... there's someone on there (I even know!) who only watched season 5 and didn't see the previous seasons and is convinced that Lucas/Peyton are not meant to be and Lucas truly loves Lindsey. LOL I want to PM this person right now and ask if the first four seasons were finally watched because that statement about Lucas loving Lindsey truly and not loving Peyton as much was grossly inaccurate. LOL I also enjoy how Lucas/Peyton fans were chill during this drama while the Brooke/Lucas fans were chirping, so excited over the Lucas/Brooke scenes with Angie and some even thinking they'd be revisited romantically. Of course they got off on Lucas telling Peyton he hated her... even though it was pointed out by more than one person to read the actual episode title and stop being so arrogant about something that was going to come back to bite you. Then I noticed once 6.1 hits, suddenly the Brooke/Lucas fans are either silent or go away and then the Lucas/Peyton fans are back in full force. LOL It's fun from a psychological perspective noticing what people said on the threads, why they say it, etc. It's very interesting. Quote:
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Season 6 had me so excited I tried to set up a site for them that ulitmately led nowhere because my html skills were highly limited. I was on the ultimate high during 601. I think I rewatched that episode more than 10 times.
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Hate is Safer Than Love ^^^ The title is key. Peyton was great in this episode. She was supportive of Brooke, amazing in the scenes with Haley, but that's Peyton for you. She took care of Lucas even when he’s been a cold a$$ to her. Peyton deserved better than Lucas going with "I hate you" and Hilarie nearly broke me with her Peyton response. Wow, was that powerful. I have never wanted to punch a TV character more in my entire life than I did Lucas Scott during that moment. Why? I expect more out of Lucas. That is why. He was such an a$$. I know I am not looking at the big picture at this moment with my thoughts because if I did, I'd understand why it helps them in the long run and that it allowed Lucas to finally break down that wall and SEE what was really going on between him and Peyton. I get it. But commenting on that moment, just that moment, I wanted to mess up his pretty boy face and tell him to go to hell. Speaking of Lucas... Lucas was a total disgrace in this episode. His behavior was just completely unacceptable. Shaking young kids, telling someone he loves he hates her, ignoring his best friend. It was all just disgusting. I know he’s hurting but going at young kids was inexcusable. Gross. I don’t like where they’re taking Lucas right now. The selfish anger in it just reminds me so much of Dan and it’s awful to see. Lucas WAS his father in this episode and as everyone knows, that's the worst comparison you can make. He needs to get over himself, especially when it comes to the self pity and blaming everyone else for his life. He has control of his own destiny. I just hope he remembers what he said in the next episode and is shown enough heart to want to put it right, because the Lucas I used to know would have to do that and could not let that stand. I think this is clearly his lowest moment of the entire series and he needs to be ashamed. Lucas and Peyton now are shattered and down and out. There is so much unresolved tension and powerful emotions that you know is ready to be addressed. So I understand that Lucas reaching his breaking point was a good thing, I just hated to see him like that. You can definitely see that only Peyton can bring out these passionate emotions in Lucas. Doesn't excuse Mr. Prick for going there, but it's the truth and I know he's going to wake up and regret what he said to Peyton. I know it's going to force him to see the light and what is precisely going on between Lucas/Peyton. Haley was good mother and friend in this episode. I think so much of who she is, is in her family and she needs to know they’ll be okay before she can really write anything. It was good to see Nathan on his comeback and he was a good brother to Lucas and is the emotionally stable one in the family. Nathan is all heart and caring, where Lucas is cold, shut down and not a good guy. Brooke was sweet with Angie and a good friend. I love season 5 Brooke. LOVED seeing Mia again! Mouth was great putting his friendship above his career. It was awesome. The Skills and Deb stuff I actually thought was funny but a waste of time. Deb's like a cartoon character almost right now. It's odd to me. She is comic relief to an otherwise dark episode. The "I hate you" certainly will allow the Lucas/Peyton relationship to develop so at least there's that. They are going to have to deal with the shattering, Lucas is going to have to stop being an a$$ and realize what is truly going on inside his heart. The highlight for me though was Hilarie’s acting, which was just so powerful in that last scene. She was fantastic. Season 5, as a whole, lost its heart some due to the Lucas/Peyton story. You can just FEEL that Lucas/Peyton need to get back on track because something is largely missing. It's precisely why so many fans left after season 6 when Lucas/Peyton get their ending and Chad/Hilarie left the show. Season 5, in a way, is without Lucas/Peyton and it needs to be fixed. What bothers me so much about Lucas is... well, everything! Maybe he should have figured out that proposing to Peyton was huge and the timing wasn't right, then he leaves her once she falls asleep, tells everyone the lie of how she said 'no' instead of 'someday', proposed to another woman with her ring, wrote a book about her, wrote another book about her, kissed her back and told her that supposedly the cute guy at C/B wasn't good enough for her when he didn't have any right. Seriously? WTF, Lucas. If you take everything Lucas has done from the missing years until this very point in season 5 and it's amazing how much Lucas has screwed up. He's been a nightmare. Last edited by jediwands; 02-27-2015 at 09:18 AM |
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I feel like this was one of the best episodes of season 5, although that might not be saying much because parts of season 5 have royally sucked. The moment at the end and the idea of Vegas after what Lucas has been through was lame, but the episode in itself was full of heart. Lucas was in a dark place at the start but I think he started to find the path back to normal (thank GOD) somewhere along the way. His scenes with Haley were amazing and it was great to see her finally blunt with him and put him on the right track. I love that Lucas didn't have the chance to go all self absorbed and pity himself. Haley made sure that she meant business and that he understood what she was saying. Thankfully! Welcome back, Haley, you reminded me of why I like you so much when you're in character being awesome. It's also more than obvious Lucas is running/ducking from Peyton and Haley knows it too. There were two of the greatest scenes in this episode that give me chills: 1. The Haley/Lucas Rivercourt scene as they're sitting on Peyton's artwork and Haley's telling him to stop running... she totally means running from Peyton and you can see and feel that given the atmosphere, her words. It was SUCH a beautiful moment, I think it was honestly my favorite Lucas/Haley scene of all time. Haley literally told Lucas to stop running from Peyton and he knew it. He absolutely knew it. The acting between Chad and Joy was remarkable, what a moving scene. 2. Lucas/Peyton scene. Mark was clever only giving them one scene because that's all they needed... although, thanks to Haley, Peyton WROTE her NOVEL to Lucas on that Rivercourt. Peyton had the courage to write her thoughts to Lucas just like he wrote his thoughts in his books about her. The Brooke/Lucas scenes were comfortable and all about friendship. I find it ridiculous that Brooke's even an option in the "Who did Lucas call?" bit. It's so not her and I get a laugh out of the past OTH discussion threads with people thinking it could be, or holding out hope that it is Brooke. They are friends, nothing more, there's not one ounce of romantic tension between them. Peyton and Lucas have romantic tension that oozes all over the place when they're around each other. That's why Lucas couldn't even talk when Peyton was around during so many moments of this season. There's so much romantic tension between Lucas and Peyton you can practically suffocate from the thickness of it. Brooke and Lucas have none of that. The Lucas/Lindsey stuff felt so off, and I'm back to highly disliking Lindsey again. First she’s telling him the book is perfect and she leaves, then over the phone she tells him she’s wrong because of a dedication about fear, which was about fear of love, but it doesn’t change the fact the book was about Peyton. Ding, ding, WTF! It's not Lindsey, he's been a delusional moronic, and at times, cruel prick, over this girl but he doesn't ultimately want her. He stood on Peyton’s artwork... wow was that artwork something else. The Lucas/Peyton scene was beautifully done by Chad and Hilarie. They have gobs of sizzling chemistry as Lucas/Peyton. There was so much emotion in their simple words to each other that showed they still have feelings for each other. This is precisely why Mark had to basically physically separate Lucas/Peyton from 5.12 until 5.18... the chemistry, the story is way too strong. You cannot get them around each other, the romantic feelings, magical romantic connection is too intense, too natural, too believable. Mark had to wait until now because finally he's getting the two characters he created a world for (Lucas/Peyton, his words ) back together for good. Lucas saying it’s hard for him still to see her and Peyton saying that she said yes every time in her dream, that it’s her dream was powerful and convincing. You felt their romantic connection that is so strong, nothing can penetrate it and break it down. It's there and here to stay. The only aspect I disliked (even though Hilarie delivered it to perfection) was Peyton almost feeling like she did something wrong in LA when she answered his proposal. I hate that, I almost feel like it's an odd kind of emotional abuse/bullying that indirectly was inserted inside of Peyton's heart about what went down in LA. Peyton, you did nothing wrong saying "someday" when Lucas proposed. Nothing! I hate that is seems as if she feels she did something wrong... she didn't! This was all Lucas being lame and misbehaving from the moment the proposal transpired until this very moment in the finale of 5. Still, the Chad/Hilarie chemistry is magical and I enjoyed the scene in general... especially since we know who Lucas wants to be with and has always wanted to be with. Peyton, being able to still open up to Lucas about how much she loves him through her words about the proposal, even knowing what Lucas just said to her drunk, showed such grace. I think Haley’s words helped her (I loved when Haley told Peyton that people write things that they can't say) and I love Haley for finally being the amazing friend that she was capable of being. I love seeing their friendship. THIS is what I missed so much and it took practically 95% of season 5 to FINALLY see the Haley/Peyton friendship I've always loved so very much. I mentioned above Haley was great in the episode and I loved all her friendship scenes. She was a good mother, wife and friend throughout and it was great to see her get a breakthrough with her music. Joy delivered a beautiful performance. Brooke was sad to watch in this episode and it was good to see her emotionally develop into such a caring person, but at the same time I’m glad the Angie storyline is over. The scenes were fine to watch, but like I mentioned up thread, it was a slightly tiring storyline because you knew it was going to end in heartbreaking fashion. I actually think Brooke and the doctor would have been a really good match romantically. I enjoyed Nathan’s scenes with Jamie and Q; his comeback is something that I think needs to happen for the show. It's a must! The scene with Q telling him he's scared was great stuff. Jamie recognizing the parallel between his father being scared of making the comeback and being scared of going into the pool was great stuff. I just love how Nathan recovered during the last half of season 5. The Nathan/Haley scenes were fantastic in this one, both together and as a family. I love them. Nathan's been a great father, loyal, supportive brother, excellent husband, and even good son considering the circumstances and what I know he's going to do in the future concerning his son and his father. The Skills/Deb thing continuing was just weird and I love Mouth and Millicent. They are a good match. Mouth saving the day at work and then quitting was outstanding. Peyton's biological father is obviously showing up in season 6 based on the hints in this one. Should be interesting and I know nothing about this storyline so it will be brand new for me! Dan was creepy in the episode, and I was really sad to see his darkness appear again. Wow, I can't believe how he was moving that poor man's head like a ragdoll while contemplating literally murdering him. I was glad that Jamie inspired him to do the right thing. But... the car, bam! I absolutely loved the music that was used including Gavin’s little piece at the start with Jackson, Bethany’s song and also Disappear, which was integrated beautifully. Overall I enjoyed the episode a lot. I think part of it is because this episode means an end to a rather frustrating season. Compared to the last six episodes, this episode was pure heaven. I don't love the lame cliffhanger, but since I know how it ends I'm okay with it. I just think this episode brought back the heart and soul of this show (which means Lucas/Peyton are coming to life again) and it really felt like old school One Tree Hill. __________________ Last edited by jediwands; 02-27-2015 at 04:11 PM |
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I found this cool music site for the show: One Tree Hill Music - www.oth-music.com
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I am glad that Dan got his card. "Everyone needs a friend. " Awe... Ethan....super hot and a heart surgeon. There were some sparks between him and Brooke. I loved that song that Mia sang at the end of the episode. I just hated the last scene. Last edited by everwoodfan52; 02-27-2015 at 06:17 PM |
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