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Binge Watchers #8: One Tree Hill Rewatch Thread

With respect to this being the Everwood board, instead of creating a thread specific to one show it could be a revolving thread for different shows we as a group decide to Binge Watch together.

First up, One Tree Hill.





Thanks, Patricia!


Rules

1. This is an independent rewatch thread. Watch an episode and post about it if you'd like. If you want to comment instead of actively watching, you can do that, too.

2. No attacking or being rude to thoughts and opinions. This board has always had a peaceful tone and it will remain that way.








Episode List


Season 1 (2003)
1x01 Pilot
1x02 The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most
1x03 Are You True?
1x04 Crash Into You
1x05 All That You Can't Leave Behind
1x06 Every Night Is Another Story
1x07 Life in a Glass House
1x08 The Search for Something More
1x09 With Arms Outstretched
1x10 You Gotta Go There to Come Back
1x11 The Living Years
1x12 Crash Course in Polite Conversations
1x13 Hanging by a Moment
1x14 I Shall Believe
1x15 Suddenly Everything Has Changed
1x16 The First Cut Is the Deepest
1x17 Spirit in the Night
1x18 To Wish Impossible Things
1x19 How Can You Be Sure?
1x20 What Is and What Should Never Be
1x21 The Leaving Song
1x22 The Games That Play Us

Season 2 (2004)
2x01 The Desperate Kingdom of Love
2x02 Truth Doesn't Make a Noise
2x03 Near Wild Heaven
2x04 You Can't Always Get What You Want
2x05 I Will Dare
2x06 We Might as Well Be Strangers
2x07 Let the Reigns Go Loose
2x08 Truth, Bitter Truth
2x09 The Trick Is to Keep Breathing
2x10 Don't Take Me for Granted
2x11 The Heart Brings You Back
2x12 Between Order and Randomness
2x13 The Hero Dies in This One
2x14 The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
2x15 Unopened Letter to the World
2x16 Somewhere a Clock Is Ticking
2x17 Something I Can Never Have
2x18 The Lonesome Road
2x19 I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
2x20 Lifetime Piling Up
2x21 What Could Have Been
2x22 Episode 22 and 23

Season 3 (2005)
3x01 Like You Like an Arsonist
3x02 From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
3x03 First Day on a Brand New Planet
3x04 An Attempt to Tip the Scales
3x05 A Multitude of Casualties
3x06 Locked Hearts and Hand Grenades
3x07 Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends
3x08 The Worst Day Since Yesterday
3x09 How a Resurrection Really Feels
3x10 Brave New World
3x11 Return of the Future
3x12 I've Got Dreams to Remember
3x13 The Wind That Blew My Heart Away
3x14 All Tomorrow's Parties
3x15 Just Watch the Fireworks
3x16 With Tired Eyes, Tired Minds, Tired Souls, We Slept
3x17 Who Will Survive, and What Will Be Left of Them
3x18 When It Isn't Like It Should Be
3x19 I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me
3x20 Everyday Is a Sunday Evening
3x21 Over the Hills and Far Away
3x22 The Show Must Go On

Season 4 (2006)
4x01 The Same Deep Water as You
4x02 Things I Forgot at Birth
4x03 Good News for People Who Love Bad News
4x04 Can't Stop This Thing We've Started
4x05 I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness
4x06 Where Did You Sleep Last Night?
4x07 All These Things That I've Done
4x08 Nothing Left to Say But Goodbye
4x09 Some You Give Away
4x10 Songs to Love and Die By
4x11 Everything in Its Right Place
4x12 Resolve
4x13 Pictures of You
4x14 Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers
4x15 Prom Night at Hater High
4x16 You Call It Madness, But I Call It Love
4x17 It Gets Worse at Night
4x18 The Runaway Found
4x19 Ashes of Dreams You Let Die
4x20 The Birth and Death of the Day
4x21 All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone

Season 5 (2008)
5x01 Four Years, Six Months, Two Days
5x02 Racing Like a Pro
5x03 My Way Home Is Through You
5x04 Its Alright Ma (I`m Only Bleeding)
5x05 I Forgot to Remember to Forget
5x06 Don't Dream It's Over
5x07 In da Club
5x08 Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want
5x09 For Tonight You're Only Here to Know
5x10 Running to Stand Still
5x11 You're Gonna Need Someone on Your Side
5x12 Hundred
5x13 Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace
5x14 What Do You Go Home To?
5x15 Life Is Short
5x16 Cryin' Won't Help You Now
5x17 Hate Is Safer Than Love
5x18 What Comes After the Blues

Season 6 (2008)
6x01 Touch Me I'm Going to Scream: Part I
6x02 One Million Billionth of a Millisecond on a Sunday Morning
6x03 Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.
6x04 Bridge Over Troubled Water
6x05 You've Dug Your Own Grave, Now Lie in It
6x06 Choosing My Own Way of Life
6x07 Messin' with the Kid
6x08 Our Life Is Not a Movie or Maybe
6x09 Sympathy for the Devil
6x10 Even Fairy Tale Characters Would Be Jealous
6x11 We Three (My Echo, My Shadow and Me)
6x12 You Have to Be Joking (Autopsy of the Devil`s Brain)
6x13 Things a Mamma Don't Know
6x14 A Hand to Take Hold of the Scene
6x15 We Change, We Wait
6x16 Screenwriter's Blues
6x17 You and Me and the Bottle Makes 3 Tonight
6x18 Searching for a Former Clarity
6x19 Letting Go
6x20 I Would for You
6x21 A Kiss to Build a Dream On
6x22 Show Me How to Live
6x23 Forever and Almost Always
6x24 Remember Me as a Time of Day

Season 7 (2009)
7x01 4:30 AM (Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad)
7x02 What Are You Willing to Lose
7x03 Hold My Hand as I'm Lowered
7x04 Believe Me, I'm Lying
7x05 Your Cheatin' Heart
7x06 Deep Ocean Vast Sea
7x07 I and Love and You
7x08 I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight
7x09 Now You Lift Your Eyes to the Sun
7x10 You Are a Runner, and I Am My Father's Son
7x11 You Know I Love You, Don't You
7x12 Some Roads Lead Nowhere
7x13 Weeks Go by Like Days
7x14 Family Affair
7x15 Don't You Forget About Me
7x16 My Attendance Is Bad But My Intentions Are Good
7x17 At the Bottom of Everything
7x18 The Last Day of Our Acquaintance
7x19 Every Picture Tells a Story
7x20 Learning to Fail
7x21 What's in the Ground Belongs to You
7x22 Almost Everything I Wish I'd Said the Last Time I Saw You

Season 8 (2010)
8x01 Asleep at Heaven's Gate
8x02 I Can't See You, But I Know You're There
8x03 The Space in Between
8x04 We All Fall Down
8x05 Nobody Taught Us to Quit
8x06 Not Afraid
8x07 Luck Be a Lady
8x08 Mouthful of Diamonds
8x09 Between Raising Hell and Amazing Grace
8x10 Lists, Plans
8x11 Episode #8.11
8x12 The Drinks We Drank Last Night
8x13 The Other Half of Me
8x14 Holding Out for a Hero
8x15 Valentine's Day Is Over
8x16 I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here
8x17 The Smoker You Drink, the Player You Get
8x18 Quiet Little Voices
8x19 Where Not to Look for Freedom
8x20 The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul
8x21 Flightless Bird, American Mouth
8x22 This Is My House, This Is My Home

Season 9 (2012)
9x01 Know This, We've Noticed
9x02 In the Room Where You Sleep
9x03 Love the Way You Lie
9x04 Don't You Want to Share the Guilt?
9x05 The Killing Moon
9x06 Catastrophe and the Cure
9x07 Last Known Surroundings
9x08 A Rush of Blood to the Head
9x09 Every Breath Is a Bomb
9x10 Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will
9x11 Danny Boy
9x12 Anyone Who Had a Heart
9x13 One Tree Hill
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From the last thread....


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So yes, the episode started with Live's Lightning Crashes:



And near the end of the episode, the song you're referring to was played:

The song you're referring to is the one that made my cry.

Both songs are gorgeous. Great music choices for this episode.


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I love Ray laMontagne. Hold you in my arms......is a great track as well as shelter.
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Episode: 4.21

I realized the second this episode got going how much more I adore this series over Dawson's Creek. It's not even close. In season 4 Dawson's Creek, at the end of the season, they graduated and I was so blah about it. I didn't care about the town of Capeside anymore, I couldn't have cared less where they were all going. I mean, I didn't really care about the fact that the teens were moving on and how it wouldn't be the same for them anymore. Why? Well, the so called friendships in the series were either fake, strained or non-existent. Joey, Jen, and Andie don't compare to Peyton, Brooke, and Haley. Certainly Dawson and Pacey don't hold a candle to the dynamic of Lucas and Nathan.

When I compare the two shows it's night and day. I mean it when I say the more I fall in love with One Tree Hill, the more I realize how much better of a show it was than Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek is the reason why I was hesitant with One Tree Hill. I was scared of the triangle situation and didn't want to go through it again. I could kick myself for not taking a chance on One Tree Hill back in the day. I started to but got scared, all thanks to Dawson's Creek.

Anyway, just an observation and now to the finale of 4!

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I love the slow motion with Haley going into labor and the gang looking on. So exciting and totally awesome. But then seeing Lucas' face when he gets that call about Karen, the embrace between brothers was...

I can totally see why Mark used Live's Lightning Crashes for the intro of the episode, showing Karen and Haley back and forth, back and forth. Flirting with death, flirting with life, and on and on. Well done, Mark.

Karen and Keith, awe, Karen and Keith! This spiritual aspect is something else, I love it so much. What an added element that is so unique and outstanding. Love it!

I take back what I said a while ago about the actors who play Dan and Karen having more chemistry than the actors who play Karen and Keith. No, just no. I mean both pairings have good chemistry. But now seeing Karen and Keith "in limbo" together... oh man, my shipper heart is swelling.

Chills when Jamie was born, so moving, aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Oh man the Lucas/Peyton CARRRRRRRRRRRRRR scene going back to The Pilot. Betty, keep remembering the car because it comes into play later on too.

Deb saying to bring her home some drugs is hilarious.

Deb cleaned up at the exact right time. She has a Grandson, Nathan and Haley can use her help, the situation with Dan. It's perfect.

Rachel's back! I am glad. I never hated her, she was/is flawed. She certainly deserved to graduate, that is for sure, and to think about how far Rachel and Brooke have come is remarkable. They hated each other and then developed a true friendship. It was nice.

Haha I love when the girls start dancing. So cool.

Lucas and Skills, I love their scene.



^^^ That scene created tears. Lovvvvvvvvvvvve it.

Mouth running up and kissing Brooke was fantastic.

Love that last alone Lucas/Peyton scene.... Damn straight it doesn't matter Peyton, because you and Lucas are going to get that endgame.

Nathan telling Peyton he made his son and Peyton telling him good work, buddy is hilarious.

Love the Lucas/Haley scene... it started with them, they are so beautiful. Awe! Lucas is staying with them.

The Rivercourt scene... That scene is so beautiful it makes me sad.

Karen is with Lily surrounded by lilies and Keith...

Dan couldn't even kill himself... this storyline really is heartbreaking. I don't feel sorry for him being behind bars, I just feel sad over how someone could have messed up their life that much... this is reality. There are Dan's out there for sure. Have it all but end up with nothing.

Nathan and Lucas one on one last scene...





Precisely. What a horrible conclusion for this guy. He controlled all of this, absolutely all of it. He could have taken the position of being there for Karen with Keith still alive by supporting Lucas. He could have made up for things without the evil route he took. He completely lost it all... in every way.



Agreed. I wish they would have gone too.







Soulmates, baby. They're cut from the same cloth as Ephram/Amy.


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Exactly. I think all of those factors could have been in play. Yes I think it was their first on the CW which had to have played a part in why the finale was set up in the manner that it was.

The one person missing on the Rivercourt in that last scene in 4.21 that I expected to be there was Tim. I wonder why Tim wasn't there? Skills is Lucas' oldest friend and Tim is Nathan's oldest friend. Tim should have been there.

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Preliminary thoughts on Episode 5.1:

1. Jamie is absolutely adorable! They did a great job finding an actor who looks like a combination of Haley and Nathan. He seems to be smart like his mom.
I know I'm going to enjoy watching him.

2. Of course Lucas is a great uncle and you would expect the Rivercourt guys to take Jamie under their wing.

3. Haley looks beautiful. It's fitting that she be a teacher. This was her calling.
I wonder if she'll be working for Principal Turner. That would be ironic since he fired her as a tutor.

Lucas and Skills coaching the Ravens will be fun.

4. Lucas...why? Why would you be seeing someone after pledging your love forever to Peyton? No wonder you have writer's freeze.
And Lucas....why didn't you hug Peyton. You haven't seen her in over 2 years and she's your friend! Not nice.

Put me on the list of those not thrilled with Lindsey. Sorry...if you get in the way of a Peyton/Lucas union...you're not on my good list.


5. Peyton.....why did you unbutton that button?

6. Brooke is beautiful and successful....but not happy. I knew it was Brooke that Peyton called. They wanted us to think it was Lucas...but now..it was definitely Brooke.

7. Victoria is a bitch. I believe she's Brooke's mom....right?

8. Nathan is a mess!!!! Why did he care what those jerks said at the bar. That was a stupid move.
It's heartbreaking watching Jamie's reaction to his dad...so sad.

Horrible quote from Nathan to Lucas: "Dan may not be the only Scott to kill his brother." The look on Lucas's face said it all.

Sure hope Nathan gets his act together soon and this funk does not last forever!



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Thanks for the new thread and bringing everything over, co-mod!

I had an appointment this morning so just got to the surface now. lol
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1. Jamie is absolutely adorable! They did a great job finding an actor who looks like a combination of Haley and Nathan. He seems to be smart like his mom.
I know I'm going to enjoy watching him.
Yes awesome kid .

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2. Of course Lucas is a great uncle and you would expect the Rivercourt guys to take Jamie under their wing.
And they are super cute looking out for Jaime.

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3. Haley looks beautiful. It's fitting that she be a teacher. This was her calling.
I wonder if she'll be working for Principal Turner.
Yes it wasn't surprising .

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4. Lucas...why? Why would you be seeing someone after pledging your love forever to Peyton? No wonder you have writer's freeze.
. I think that you need to wait to get more information. I think that it was the third episode that will give some light into this.

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5. Peyton.....why did you unbutton that button?
I think that this was her wake up call though.

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6. Brooke is beautiful and successful....but not happy. I knew it was Brooke that Peyton called. They wanted us to think it was Lucas...but now..it was definitely Brooke.
Sophia Bush is really beautiful. Well at least according to my tastes. I love her eyes.

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7. Victoria is a bitch. I believe she's Brooke's mom....right?
Yep Victoria is Brooke's mother. And oh boy is she a bitch.

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8. Nathan is a mess!!!! Why did he care what those jerks said at the bar. That was a stupid move.
Yep. Stupid move and I know that it's TV, but it kind of shows you how one small step in the wrong could have so big consequences.

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It's heartbreaking watching Jamie's reaction to his dad...so sad.
The kid actor plays this so well.

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Horrible quote from Nathan to Lucas: "Dan may not be the only Scott to kill his brother." The look on Lucas's face said it all.
It was despicable. Nathan was so low there. Yes he was a jerk in Season 1 and yes he had said horrible things, it was supposed that he changed. After everything they went through and given his reaction to what Dan did, to say something like that is horrible, awful, rude and all kinds of sort. I like Nathan in general, but I wanted to smack him right there.

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Sure hope Nathan gets his act together soon and this funk does not last forever!
For me it was painful to watch this to be honest. Maybe I'm too much of Naley fan. It could be, but I wasn't into this angst. I've always thought that Mark had two big themes in OTH - Leyton and Nathan/Lucas relationships as brothers. I am not saying that he didn't like Naley, I'm just saying that the big one thing for Mark was Leyton when it comes to couples. And the other thing for me has always been Nathan and Lucas growing up, going down on a road to meet each other.

The only thing worse than what Nathan did was what Dan actually did - killing his brother. Luckily Lucas didn't take this personally and granted Nathan was depressed, but still this was horrible.
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Preliminary thoughts on Episode 5.1:

1. Jamie is absolutely adorable! They did a great job finding an actor who looks like a combination of Haley and Nathan. He seems to be smart like his mom.
I know I'm going to enjoy watching him.
Isn't he a cutie? I just want to squeeze him he's so adorable. The actor is very talented too. You are right, perfect match in every way!

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3. Haley looks beautiful. It's fitting that she be a teacher. This was her calling.
I wonder if she'll be working for Principal Turner.
That's the first thing I thought of while seeing season 5... Joy/Haley looks hot. LOL Yes, Haley being a teacher really fits her personality and style. She is brilliant and as you know, we need brilliant teachers... just like you were.

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4. Lucas...why? Why would you be seeing someone after pledging your love forever to Peyton? No wonder you have writer's freeze.
And Lucas....why didn't you hug Peyton. You haven't seen her in over 2 years and she's your friend! Not nice.

Put me on the list of those not thrilled with Lindsey. Sorry...if you get in the way of a Peyton/Lucas union...you're not on my good list.
Thank you! You are reacting like a typical diehard Lucas/Peyton fan. Shu mentioned it... if this storyline bothers you, you are a LP and Peyton fan because you will tend to see this a certain way, and that is precisely what you're doing.

I wish I could tell you that this gets straightened out quickly but it doesn't. Just hang in there. I will say by 5.12 you will be able to breathe easier concerning this situation and even smile as a LP fan. So sit back and know there's light at the end of this darkness. LOL

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8. Nathan is a mess!!!! Why did he care what those jerks said at the bar. That was a stupid move.
It's heartbreaking watching Jamie's reaction to his dad...so sad.

Horrible quote from Nathan to Lucas: "Dan may not be the only Scott to kill his brother." The look on Lucas's face said it all.

Sure hope Nathan gets his act together soon and this funk does not last forever!
Hang in there with Nathan too. He'll get better. But you're going to have to put up with someone named Nanny Carrie. She's actually Melissa from Pretty Little Liars. She is the psycho Derek of season 5 but in a different way.

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Thanks for the new thread Betty!
You're welcome, Koni!

I'm glad to see that you are watching Season 5.



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. I think that you need to wait to get more information. I think that it was the third episode that will give some light into this.
Yeah...but I don't believe I'll be thrilled with the information.


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I think that this was her wake up call though.
She realized that she does have that integrity that Lucas says she has. I'm so happy she woke up and resigned. That boss was a super creep and she should have charged him with Sexual harassment.



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Yep. Stupid move and I know that it's TV, but it kind of shows you how one small step in the wrong could have so big consequences.
That is so true.

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but I wanted to smack him right there.
Yes...you and me both!

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. I've always thought that Mark had two big themes in OTH - Leyton and Nathan/Lucas relationships as brothers. I am not saying that he didn't like Naley, I'm just saying that the big one thing for Mark was Leyton when it comes to couples. And the other thing for me has always been Nathan and Lucas growing up, going down on a road to meet each other.
I'm not sure about that, Koni. I know Leyton was one of his end games and Nathan/Lucas was another end game, but I really believe that Nathan/Haley was an equal end game. They didn't get anymore strife than Lucas and Peyton got. Nathan and Haley definitely had road blocks, but that wasn't because they were were dating others like Lucas and Peyton.
I believe that Mark was very invested in Haley and Nathan as couple. He had definitely given them a very deep love that really moves me.
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Yeah...but I don't believe I'll be thrilled with the information.
You won't. I know you won't.... that's what happens when you diehard ship a couple like you do Lucas/Peyton in this case. No reason will be good enough. lol

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I'm not sure about that, Koni. I know Leyton was one of his end games and Nathan/Lucas was another end game, but I really believe that Nathan/Haley was an equal end game. They didn't get anymore strife than Lucas and Peyton got. Nathan and Haley definitely had road blocks, but that wasn't because they were were dating others like Lucas and Peyton.
I believe that Mark was very invested in Haley and Nathan as couple. He had definitely given them a very deep love that really moves me.
Agreed. Definitely Lucas/Peyton is depicted as THE pairing though in Mark's mind as far as that soulmatey vibe. Mark has said as much in interviews. But Nathan/Haley were unexpected he said. He said when he saw the James/Joy chemistry, he had to go with it.

I think Mark saw both Leyton and Naley differently... Leyton was the soulmate, Ephram/Amy type of connection but Naley was the unexpected, enduring love. I believe Leyton was tortured much more which goes right along with the tortured, soulmatey thing. You will be unsettled and not quite right until you are finally together for good in every way. Naley had the tour thing and other drama but outside of season 2, they endured it together in a consistent way.

So both couples are different but by far, for me, Lucas/Peyton gave me more stress and heart palpitations with the soulmatey, tortured vibe they've had if that makes sense.
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Isn't he a cutie? I just want to squeeze him he's so adorable. The actor is very talented too. You are right, perfect match in every way!
I just love him. He's not some kid actor who is going to be background. He is going to actually be involved in the action.


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That's the first thing I thought of while seeing season 5... Joy/Haley looks hot. LOL Yes, Haley being a teacher really fits her personality and style. She is brilliant and as you know, we need brilliant teachers... just like you were.
Thank you! I wasn't Valedictorian, though.
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Thank you! You are reacting like a typical diehard Lucas/Peyton fan. Shu mentioned it... if this storyline bothers you, you are a LP and Peyton fan because you will tend to see this a certain way, and that is precisely what you're doing.
How could a true Peyton/Lucas fan react any other way?
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Hang in there with Nathan too. He'll get better. But you're going to have to put up with someone named Nanny Carrie. She's actually Melissa from Pretty Little Liars. She is the psycho Derek of season 5 but in a different way.
A female psycho Derek! Oh, No!


I will hang in there. I'm not going to stop watching because I don't like what's going on. I started watching Everwood after it was off the air. I knew what was going to happen. As long as I knew what the end game was going to be: Ephram and Amy...I was able to watch, get aggravated and put up with what went on before the end.
I will do the same with this show.
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I just love him. He's not some kid actor who is going to be background. He is going to actually be involved in the action.
Precisely. He's thrown into the mix immediately and will stay there. He's adorable.

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Thank you! I wasn't Valedictorian, though.
You have advanced degrees, you are a smarty too.

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How could a true Peyton/Lucas fan react any other way?
Precisely! Not possible any other way!

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A female psycho Derek! Oh, No!


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I will hang in there. I'm not going to stop watching because I don't like what's going on. I started watching Everwood after it was off the air. I knew what was going to happen. As long as I knew what the end game was going to be: Ephram and Amy...I was able to watch, get aggravated and put up with what went on before the end.
I will do the same with this show.
Nicely put. So glad we are watching together.
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Agreed. Definitely Lucas/Peyton is depicted as THE pairing though in Mark's mind as far as that soulmatey vibe. Mark has said as much in interviews. But Nathan/Haley were unexpected he said. He said when he saw the James/Joy chemistry, he had to go with it
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I didn't realize Nathan and Haley weren't planned from the beginning. They definitely have a lot of chemistry. I love watching them (when they're in a good place).
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