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Binge Watchers #12: One Tree Hill Rewatch Thread

With respect to this being the Everwood board, instead of creating a thread specific to one show it could be a revolving thread for different shows we as a group decide to Binge Watch together.

First up,
One Tree Hill.




Thanks, Patricia!


Rules

1. This is an independent rewatch thread. Watch an episode and post about it if you'd like. If you want to comment instead of actively watching, you can do that, too.

2. No attacking or being rude to thoughts and opinions. This board has always had a peaceful tone and it will remain that way.








Episode List


Season 1 (2003)
1x01 Pilot
1x02 The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most
1x03 Are You True?
1x04 Crash Into You
1x05 All That You Can't Leave Behind
1x06 Every Night Is Another Story
1x07 Life in a Glass House
1x08 The Search for Something More
1x09 With Arms Outstretched
1x10 You Gotta Go There to Come Back
1x11 The Living Years
1x12 Crash Course in Polite Conversations
1x13 Hanging by a Moment
1x14 I Shall Believe
1x15 Suddenly Everything Has Changed
1x16 The First Cut Is the Deepest
1x17 Spirit in the Night
1x18 To Wish Impossible Things
1x19 How Can You Be Sure?
1x20 What Is and What Should Never Be
1x21 The Leaving Song
1x22 The Games That Play Us

Season 2 (2004)
2x01 The Desperate Kingdom of Love
2x02 Truth Doesn't Make a Noise
2x03 Near Wild Heaven
2x04 You Can't Always Get What You Want
2x05 I Will Dare
2x06 We Might as Well Be Strangers
2x07 Let the Reigns Go Loose
2x08 Truth, Bitter Truth
2x09 The Trick Is to Keep Breathing
2x10 Don't Take Me for Granted
2x11 The Heart Brings You Back
2x12 Between Order and Randomness
2x13 The Hero Dies in This One
2x14 The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
2x15 Unopened Letter to the World
2x16 Somewhere a Clock Is Ticking
2x17 Something I Can Never Have
2x18 The Lonesome Road
2x19 I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
2x20 Lifetime Piling Up
2x21 What Could Have Been
2x22 Episode 22 and 23

Season 3 (2005)
3x01 Like You Like an Arsonist
3x02 From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
3x03 First Day on a Brand New Planet
3x04 An Attempt to Tip the Scales
3x05 A Multitude of Casualties
3x06 Locked Hearts and Hand Grenades
3x07 Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends
3x08 The Worst Day Since Yesterday
3x09 How a Resurrection Really Feels
3x10 Brave New World
3x11 Return of the Future
3x12 I've Got Dreams to Remember
3x13 The Wind That Blew My Heart Away
3x14 All Tomorrow's Parties
3x15 Just Watch the Fireworks
3x16 With Tired Eyes, Tired Minds, Tired Souls, We Slept
3x17 Who Will Survive, and What Will Be Left of Them
3x18 When It Isn't Like It Should Be
3x19 I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me
3x20 Everyday Is a Sunday Evening
3x21 Over the Hills and Far Away
3x22 The Show Must Go On

Season 4 (2006)
4x01 The Same Deep Water as You
4x02 Things I Forgot at Birth
4x03 Good News for People Who Love Bad News
4x04 Can't Stop This Thing We've Started
4x05 I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness
4x06 Where Did You Sleep Last Night?
4x07 All These Things That I've Done
4x08 Nothing Left to Say But Goodbye
4x09 Some You Give Away
4x10 Songs to Love and Die By
4x11 Everything in Its Right Place
4x12 Resolve
4x13 Pictures of You
4x14 Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers
4x15 Prom Night at Hater High
4x16 You Call It Madness, But I Call It Love
4x17 It Gets Worse at Night
4x18 The Runaway Found
4x19 Ashes of Dreams You Let Die
4x20 The Birth and Death of the Day
4x21 All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone

Season 5 (2008)
5x01 Four Years, Six Months, Two Days
5x02 Racing Like a Pro
5x03 My Way Home Is Through You
5x04 Its Alright Ma (I`m Only Bleeding)
5x05 I Forgot to Remember to Forget
5x06 Don't Dream It's Over
5x07 In da Club
5x08 Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want
5x09 For Tonight You're Only Here to Know
5x10 Running to Stand Still
5x11 You're Gonna Need Someone on Your Side
5x12 Hundred
5x13 Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace
5x14 What Do You Go Home To?
5x15 Life Is Short
5x16 Cryin' Won't Help You Now
5x17 Hate Is Safer Than Love
5x18 What Comes After the Blues

Season 6 (2008)
6x01 Touch Me I'm Going to Scream: Part I
6x02 One Million Billionth of a Millisecond on a Sunday Morning
6x03 Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.
6x04 Bridge Over Troubled Water
6x05 You've Dug Your Own Grave, Now Lie in It
6x06 Choosing My Own Way of Life
6x07 Messin' with the Kid
6x08 Our Life Is Not a Movie or Maybe
6x09 Sympathy for the Devil
6x10 Even Fairy Tale Characters Would Be Jealous
6x11 We Three (My Echo, My Shadow and Me)
6x12 You Have to Be Joking (Autopsy of the Devil`s Brain)
6x13 Things a Mamma Don't Know
6x14 A Hand to Take Hold of the Scene
6x15 We Change, We Wait
6x16 Screenwriter's Blues
6x17 You and Me and the Bottle Makes 3 Tonight
6x18 Searching for a Former Clarity
6x19 Letting Go
6x20 I Would for You
6x21 A Kiss to Build a Dream On
6x22 Show Me How to Live
6x23 Forever and Almost Always
6x24 Remember Me as a Time of Day

Season 7 (2009)
7x01 4:30 AM (Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad)
7x02 What Are You Willing to Lose
7x03 Hold My Hand as I'm Lowered
7x04 Believe Me, I'm Lying
7x05 Your Cheatin' Heart
7x06 Deep Ocean Vast Sea
7x07 I and Love and You
7x08 I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight
7x09 Now You Lift Your Eyes to the Sun
7x10 You Are a Runner, and I Am My Father's Son
7x11 You Know I Love You, Don't You
7x12 Some Roads Lead Nowhere
7x13 Weeks Go by Like Days
7x14 Family Affair
7x15 Don't You Forget About Me
7x16 My Attendance Is Bad But My Intentions Are Good
7x17 At the Bottom of Everything
7x18 The Last Day of Our Acquaintance
7x19 Every Picture Tells a Story
7x20 Learning to Fail
7x21 What's in the Ground Belongs to You
7x22 Almost Everything I Wish I'd Said the Last Time I Saw You

Season 8 (2010)
8x01 Asleep at Heaven's Gate
8x02 I Can't See You, But I Know You're There
8x03 The Space in Between
8x04 We All Fall Down
8x05 Nobody Taught Us to Quit
8x06 Not Afraid
8x07 Luck Be a Lady
8x08 Mouthful of Diamonds
8x09 Between Raising Hell and Amazing Grace
8x10 Lists, Plans
8x11 Episode #8.11
8x12 The Drinks We Drank Last Night
8x13 The Other Half of Me
8x14 Holding Out for a Hero
8x15 Valentine's Day Is Over
8x16 I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here
8x17 The Smoker You Drink, the Player You Get
8x18 Quiet Little Voices
8x19 Where Not to Look for Freedom
8x20 The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul
8x21 Flightless Bird, American Mouth
8x22 This Is My House, This Is My Home

Season 9 (2012)
9x01 Know This, We've Noticed
9x02 In the Room Where You Sleep
9x03 Love the Way You Lie
9x04 Don't You Want to Share the Guilt?
9x05 The Killing Moon
9x06 Catastrophe and the Cure
9x07 Last Known Surroundings
9x08 A Rush of Blood to the Head
9x09 Every Breath Is a Bomb
9x10 Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will
9x11 Danny Boy
9x12 Anyone Who Had a Heart
9x13 One Tree Hill
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I'm sorry, Jamie. I think I beat you to it again!


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I couldn't get our 711 thoughts over before you closed the thread. I think Michelle may like to read those once she gets there, but she can go back.

Anyway, here's mine that you guys haven't gotten to yet.

712

What a depressing opening. Everyone is a mess.

Jamie quoting Dan is funny.

"When was this birthday?" "June. Maybe. It changes sometimes." That was totally a shout out to the fans because his birthday does change on the show!

"I can't believe I made it to heaven." Girl's still making jokes!!

Quinn cheerleading Tomato fight with Grubbs

Dan's last show was weird. I'm glad the show is over for him.

It's so weird it took Brooke this long to talk to Millie about the drugs. I don't get it.

So Julian has a hero complex. (Poor Brooke)

"I plan on falling completely and insanely in love with Quinn." BARF

I'm glad Clay saved the day, though.

Dan/Jamie are sweet.

Mouth & Skills are out. Millie escapes from rehab. Clay goes swimming in his suit, and Quinn shows up. Sure.

Alex/Julian/Brooke

Hello Alexander, new designer... Forgot all about him!

713

I like that Nathan & Jamie are on tour with Haley. (Love the little LA & Chicago shots)

Brooke & Julian haven't talked at all in six weeks. Did Julian try?

"What kind of idiot treats Brooke Davis poorly?" I've got to agree with Alexander. As much as I love Julian, he needs to step up.

Andre

UGH what a horrible Brooke/Julian exchange. I have no words. Very poor communication.

Haley/Brooke scene...this has been missing. Brooke needs someone. "Alex isn't Peyton, and Julian is not Lucas." Hopefully that helped.

Quinn/Clay are so awkward for me.

Oh gosh Julian...confronting Victoria. "You like that she's interested in you." Go Victoria!

I love Alex. (It's funny that Alex & Victoria are the ones trying to help Millie)

Clay/Nate are so awkward Good for Nathan speaking up, that was weird.

UGH Julian/Brooke at Haley's concert. This just keeps getting worse. (I should go back and watch S6 to see happy moments )

Taylor shows up. Stupid jokes.

Okay, Clay's note was cute.

Totally forgot that Taylor dates David. How horribly stupid.

714

Haley/Taylor/Nate... I think it's silly, but whatever.

Lucas' house.

Sweet Mouth/Millie moment

Kylie (I think that's her name) in Clay's pool. So funny to me. Good timing.

Nathan making a video game is kinda cool.

Quinn not reacting to David/Taylor is way weird.

Alexander had to deliver Julian's stuff?

"I just needed some space." "Well, you got it." Why does this have to be so horrible?

Quinn's way to make a point was to lay in his pool too?!?! Ugh. I don't understand that.

Haley sitting on the counter spoiling her appetite. "Hey Brooke, sup?" "I was just feeling a little lost, so I thought I'd come see the most stable couple I know." These pep talks Haley keeps giving Brooke all sound the same. "He loves you."

Nathan is so patient.

Whoa Peter.... "cut deeper next time." Why'd they hire this guy in the first place?

This James sisters dinner is ridiculous. Pretty comical, though.
In the pool...

Lauren/Mouth

Brooke showing some compassion for Millie. It's about time.

Well, Quinn treated David better this episode. That's good.

This Brooke/Julian scene IS SO CONFUSING. Why are they getting along?

Nathan/Haley in bed... They are precious.

715

I'm so weirded out by Brooke/Julian. They break up, and now they're friendly?

Junk & Fergie "You only get those guys when you can't find anyone else." Jamie has some of the best lines this season honestly.

Nathan and Clay getting a ride back to Tree Hill with pigs. This is the ridiculous stuff they come up with in the later seasons.

Alex has done a 180. She's team Brulian, and it's "not even date-ish." That's my girl.

Julian looks so nervous walking into the dance. It's almost cute, but it's not. Alex is the most mature.

Kylie/Quinn feud is boring

FINALLY!!! Clay tells Nathan. I've been waiting so long for this. It's not how I remembered.

Nathan bought her car?

Aw, Brooke was too sweet in the car with Julian. I'm not sure he deserved that.

Mouth looks better in the 80s.

Nathan/Haley the sweetest. Nathan is easily consistently the sweetest guy on this show.


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Lydia's appearance is great.

Brooke & Julian are seriously being silly.

Julian/Alex do have sweet moments. It's a sweet friendship, Julian just crosses a line when he knows she feels more for him.

Lydia/Clay moment is sweet.

Nathan/Julian Shrek 2 moment

"Working on the ex boyfriend's movie in the ex ex boyfriend's house." while saying that to real life ex-boyfriend. This show sometimes.

Miranda/Grubbs

Lydia Definitely one of the better storylines in the late seasons

Haley's making me cry.

UMMM IF YOU MISS HER, GO BE WITH HER JULIAN
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Great! Thanks!!
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The only one I missed was post #275. I was going to bring that one too.
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I hate Brooke being so needy but Julian is certainly putting her in that place.

I love when Haley makes fun of how Miranda says schedule. I have always wondered why the Brits pronounce it like that too. But then again, I am sure Brits don't understand why Americans pronounce some words certain ways either.

Dan and Jamie have had this special dynamic since day 1 and we see that in play once again in this episode. Say what you want about Dan but he truly loves his Grandson and his Grandson loves him right back.

I feel sorry for Alex. She's trying to come down to earth but it's tough because her normal has been people falling all over her feet and gaining the superficial attention, let alone her addiction issues. She wants more for her life, she wants realness but it's tough because for right now she feels alone. The actress who plays Alex is phenomenal too. The actress who plays Quinn needs to take a look at her because she could learn a thing or two about acting talent.

Mille's annoying as hell. Wow, she's a mess. I can't even feel sorry for her either. She's so out of control but in this stuck up sort of way. She also gets Alex into trouble because the fool took her cocaine, the same cocaine Alex was trying to throw out in front of Julian. Horrible. Go away, Millie.

I guess Brooke's not happy to see Rachel, loved the smack.

I love Joy's voice and it was great seeing Haley singing again.

I can't believe Clay and Quinn kissed. She is still freaken married and neither of them are in a good place to go there. His life is just as out of control as her life is, too. WTF are either of them doing? Seriously. Nathan asked him to stay away from Quinn and he doesn't give a s$it. He's also a s$itty agent. Seriously, I want to like him and knowing more about his backstory with Sara helped, but he's a fcking trainwreck when it comes to being a sports agent. He just royally screwed Nathan over due to arrogance and stupidity. Nathan lost a secure deal, amazing money, playing home games in his home state, all because of Clay! Get a new agent, Nate! I can't believe what happened to Nathan all because of Clay, wow!

These added characters inserted in here in a forced attempt to replace Lucas/Peyton aren't working for me.

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Wow, the previously on OTH just pisses me off seeing Clay tell Nathan everything's going to be alright regarding the hardball with the contract. So lame. He's an idiot.

Poor Nathan. Damn you, Clay, you ridiculous moron. Sorry, but this burns me up. Nathan has worked his whole life for this and just because a guy who claims to be his friend sees the ghost of his dead wife and is kissing a married woman and was too arrogant and thought everything would be fine... CLAY is the reason why Nathan's dreams are about to come crashing down. Clay severely messed up the Renee thing too. He wanted that party and alcohol! Then he handled it like he was as dumb as it gets... now, this with the contact? It's devastating, unacceptable. We are talking about lifelong dreams and Nathan's might be killed because of his incompetent sports agent who's supposedly his friend. Gross, this is so maddening.

Clay to Nathan: We're waiting to hear back.

^ Is he for real? How does he not know yet that he might have ruined Nathan's entire career? What a complete idiot, cutting limes not having a clue what just happened to Nathan. WOW.

Nathan to Clay: Oh, that's great. I asked you to do two things for me -- Make sure I play for the bobcats and stay away from Quinn. You're fired. Enjoy your date.

^ Go Nate! Damn straight.

Clay and Quinn deserve each other. They're both ridiculous.

Haley might have been harsh with Quinn but guess what? I don't care. Quinn is still at Nathan and Haley's, they were both nice to enough to open their home to her, even if they both were sad over what she did to David. Nathan didn't want Clay and Quinn getting involved, he had a right if you ask me. Clay and Quinn both broke all kinds of rules/trust and that pisses me off. I say Haley should continue to yell at her. She has every right. Their dreams are looking to be crushed. This was a BIG contact, a BIG pay. They are rich now, but we're talking 10-20 plus millions of dollars and that was taken away because Clay was playing house with a married woman and spending time with his ghost, wife, being too cocky and confident and he killed this for Nathan/Haley and Jamie! He did. So Quinn can shut her mouth or GTFO.

Millicent is so out of control. I can't believe she wants 500 grand from Brooke like that and compares herself to Alex, an award-winning actress. Wow.

I love Alex confronting Millie. Alex is right, her drug is Julian right now, and I'm not sure why since I'm pretty sure Alex could date any guy she wants. Sad to see her going back to drinking.

I love seeing Victoria and Brooke.

I found the Dan/Mouth scene very intriguing.

Sorry, I'm Team Haley and not pro Quinn. How much fcking more does Haley have to go through? Clay and the party got Nathan involved in a scandal, Clay and his stupidity got Naley out of a wonderful situation playing for his hometown team in the NBA. Quinn needs to shut her damn mouth. Haley has every right to be pissed and assume Clay sneaking around with a married woman, her sister, is not right and could have played a part!

I seriously loathe Clay and Quinn even more now than I previously did.

Quinn doesn't know what she's talking about. A good sports agent never allows what happened to Nathan to happen. EVER. Period. No matter what. You always have a fallback in mind when you're attempting to play hardball, always. Clay didn't. Nathan is screwed thanks to him.

Wow, devastating about Brooke being told she can't have children. I am confused though because I thought she ends up having children so we'll see how this plays out.

Poor Mouth. I feel sorry for him.

I also love that Dan roughed the s$it out of Clay. Sorry, I might be in the minority but I can't stand Clay right now... at all. He killed one of my favorite character's in Nathan, dreams, and I hate him for it. He also had no right messing with Dan. His sarcastic comment about what is Dan going to do, shoot him, was out of line because that is still Nathan's father who just found out that CLAY failed his son, prevented his dreams... I am glad Dan dunked him repeatedly in the ocean. Maybe it will wake him the hell up. Poor Nathan and Haley. Haley has put up with so much s$it for Nathan's basketball dream. Haley deserves those millions and more! Haley could have made even more money had she focused and been allowed to tour for her music. She sacrificed so much for Nathan and she has no regrets. Which makes this catastrophe all the more heartbreaking. Nathan has worked like a dog making sure he would make it to the NBA. All he's guilty of is hiring the worst sports agent in history of the universe. Nathan did nothing wrong but trust the one person. It doesn't matter if Clay meant well. Doesn't matter. He was careless at the precise moment that he should have been super careful and delicate. Instead he was cocky and arrogant and STUPID while kissing a married woman his client, friend told him to stay away from. Nathan's face lit up with the two year contract. He was satisfied with it. That was guaranteed money, millions and millions, a boatload of money. Clay talked him out of it. Nice.

I love the new bartender, he even impressed Victoria. LOL I love when Victoria called Chase, "Fetch" LOL

Clay acts like he's the only person in the world who has lost someone. What happened to his wife sucks, it really does. But everyone hurts and experiences loss and it's not Nathan's damn fault that he was too stupid not to tell him. AND the loss of his wife, and going to work just makes what he did to Nathan's career even more horrific considering he was supposedly wanting to do a good job for his wife... well, he failed miserably. Inexcusable, I am sorry. Nathan is so screwed right now so I don't need to hear him tell Dan at the bar that he lost his wife. Quit using that as an excuse to be a moronic screw up who killed Nathan's career.

Haley said it best to Quinn, she seems lost and selfish... well no wonder she went for Clay because he's lost and selfish too. So Clay and Quinn can be lost and selfish together. I hope somehow I start liking one or both in the future or else this is going to be a very long time before the series concludes with them being thrown in my face.

Wow, I'm shocked Brooke didn't help Millicent when she called her from jail. A bit shocking to me.

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I hate Brooke being so needy but Julian is certainly putting her in that place.
It's all Julian and his stupid cluelessness! He is really pissing me off and I don't blame Brooke one bit for acting needy.
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Dan and Jamie have had this special dynamic since day 1 and we see that in play once again in this episode. Say what you want about Dan but he truly loves his Grandson and his Grandson loves him right back.
For Jamie's sake Nathan and Haley should try harder to be nicer to Dan. Jamie is showing more respect for family than his parents.

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I feel sorry for Alex. She's trying to come down to earth but it's tough because her normal has been people falling all over her feet and gaining the superficial attention, let alone her addiction issues. She wants more for her life, she wants realness but it's tough because for right now she feels alone.
I'm not claiming it's a good quality, but I have a difficult time being open minded and forgiving of weakness. I really don't have sympathy for a person has substance abuse because they have gained fame. Be a nice person and you won't be or feel alone.

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Mille's annoying as hell. Wow, she's a mess. I can't even feel sorry for her either.
Another weak nincompoop!

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I guess Brooke's not happy to see Rachel, loved the smack.
She's not the only one! She not the Rachel whom we loved.

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I love Joy's voice and it was great seeing Haley singing again.
Beautiful woman and beautiful voice!
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. He just royally screwed Nathan over due to arrogance and stupidity. Nathan lost a secure deal, amazing money, playing home games in his home state, all because of Clay! Get a new agent, Nate! I can't believe what happened to Nathan all because of Clay, wow!
Yeah...Clay was too arrogant with the team owners and should have taken the 2 year deal.

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These added characters inserted in here in a forced attempt to replace Lucas/Peyton aren't working for me.
It's not the same.
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Clay to Nathan: We're waiting to hear back.
He said that line a little too often. We're going to put that on Clay's tombstone!

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Millicent is so out of control. I can't believe she wants 500 grand from Brooke like that and compares herself to Alex, an award-winning actress. Wow.
It is so unrealistic that someone would go downhill as fast as Millie has.
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I love seeing Victoria and Brooke.
I'm loving them so much!!



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I seriously loathe Clay and Quinn even more now than I previously did.
They're not doing anything for me, either. Clay had much more chemistry with Sara.

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Wow, devastating about Brooke being told she can't have children. I am confused though because I thought she ends up having children so we'll see how this plays out.
I guess there's always a way!

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Poor Mouth. I feel sorry for him.
Me, too. He gets fired because he's loyal to a friend and he has a girlfriend who is acting like an idiot!
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I also love that Dan roughed the s$it out of Clay. Sorry, I might be in the minority but I can't stand Clay right now... at all.
I didn't understand any of that!

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I love the new bartender, he even impressed Victoria. LOL I love when Victoria called Chase, "Fetch" LOL
I love that bartender, too!
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Clay acts like he's the only person in the world who has lost someone. What happened to his wife sucks, it really does. But everyone hurts and experiences loss and it's not Nathan's damn fault that he was too stupid not to tell him.
I know! Seriously...he is playing the "My wife died" card a little too much. He's not the only person in the world to experience tragedy and heartache!


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That was a shocker!! Totally unBrooke-like!
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It's all Julian and his stupid cluelessness! He is really pissing me off and I don't blame Brooke one bit for acting needy.
I don't either, Julian's been idiotic, but I am so damn sick of seeing Brooke crying! Seriously, and this has been talked about extensively on the old threads... that's really what she does... cries. LOL She has cried the most out of any of the characters and quite frankly, Peyton and Haley have had much more to cry about. LOL So I hate seeing Brooke cry so much, it's so repetitive.

That said, Julian has been a dick so I don't blame her for being needy and emotional. I would just prefer her getting pissed more instead of always crying.

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I'm not claiming it's a good quality, but I have a difficult time being open minded and forgiving of weakness. I really don't have sympathy for a person has substance abuse because they have gained fame. Be a nice person and you won't be or feel alone.
I see Alex's situation and realize the fame, big time actress "show" with her was just an act. The real Alex is the one that was trying to get off the drugs and alcohol. That is the real her, or that person she's always been meant to be. I just want her to get back to that. I hate that she's so co-dependent on Julian but I understand it. Her first experience with realness (someone taking an interest in her writing) was with Julian so she connects him to this and doesn't want to let him go... if she lets him go she's scared of going back to drugs and alcohol to fill the void. She wants to continue on the path of realness but doesn't have anyone there to help her. Julian reminds her of her potential so she wants to cling to that.

Yes, I went to school for years for my degrees. LOL

I think at this point you either side with Alex or you don't, there's hardly any in between.

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Yeah...Clay was too arrogant with the team owners and should have taken the 2 year deal.
Nathan was satisfied! Sure, far too often sports agents are to be trusted and hold all the power which is why Nathan trusted him. That said, there's always a plan A, B and C. Always, which is why you never see what happened to Nathan actually happen in real life. It doesn't happen. You always go to your plan B or C or D. Clay had plan A and that's all.

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It's not the same.
I hate it.

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He said that line a little too often. We're going to put that on Clay's tombstone!
Does this mean he dies in an upcoming episode? LOL

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It is so unrealistic that someone would go downhill as fast as Millie has.
Completely unrealistic!

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I know! Seriously...he is playing the "My wife died" card a little too much. He's not the only person in the world to experience tragedy and heartache!
If Peyton would have taken his attitude she would have rolled over and just died herself. She had a million times more to deal with and at a much younger age and she survived and never blamed her grief and sadness on anyone else or for any of her screw ups. In fact, she hid her emotions from everyone, even Brooke, and kept it all private. She never let it affect others around her.

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That was a shocker!! Totally unBrooke-like!
Big time. I know she's pissed at her, and has a right to be, but she said she was arrested and I found it really weird how Brooke didn't even pause!
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I'd say on the old threads about 95% of people love Alex and want Julian stoned. It's interesting. I think Alex is the type of character you can feel for because you see her insecurities and how easily someone can struggle, even if they appear to have it all. I think the actress being super talented helps as well.

I know a big episode with her happens in 7.11 so I will watch soon.
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Yes, I went to school for years for my degrees. LOL
Michelle, I wasn't criticizing your analysis of Alex and her addition. That is right on!
I was criticizing Alex for being an addict! I consider that a sign of weakness.

You're right....one could feel for her or not feel for her. I guess I'm in the latter category.
But...you know me! She could win me over anytime. I'm easy.

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You wish!
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