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OT2 Thread #62: Life After Everwood: Other Addictions (TV Shows, Books, Movies, Music)

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This is a second OT thread that focuses on shows, books, movies, music we're now obsessed with since Everwood ended.

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With that said, and keeping that all in mind, we'd like to welcome you to this new thread!

Shows Everwood members watch :

Michelle (Wilpen) :
Present: Doctor Who, Pretty Little Liars, paranormal anything
Past Favorites along with Everwood: Lost, Gilmore Girls, Gossip Girl, Friends
Oldies I watch in rerunland: Golden Girls, I Love Lucy, Leave It To Beaver

Alexandra (buffyannAlex) :
Lost, 24, Grey's Anatomy, House, Supernatural, Scrubs, Bones, Desperate housewives, Brothers & Sisters, Fringe, Friday Night Lights, The Office, Dollhouse, Smallville, Dexter, The Ghost Whisperer

New shows I'd check this year : Glee, V, Fast Forward, Vampire Diaries

Ashley (AppleBehry22):
Gilmore Girls, One Tree Hill, Nip/Tuck, Roswell, Reba, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Lost

dawnie@ :
Gilmore Girls, Lost, One Tree Hill, 24 ,Hell's Kitchen2

Angela (AngelaiDanes):
Lost, Gilmore Girls

Alan (The Crow) :
Friday Night Lights, Chuck, Castle, Fringe, So You Think You Can Dance, Community, The Vampire Diaries, Being Erica, Psych, White Collar, Warehouse 13, Haven, Covert Affairs, Pretty Little Liars, Falling Skies, Rookie Blue, Game of Thrones, Nikita, Modern Family, Happy Endings, Raising Hope, Parks and Recreation, Lost Girl, Leverage, Rizzoli and Isles, and The Glades.Suburgatory, Revenge, Unforgettable, Criminal Minds, Death Valley, Children's Hospital, NTSF:SD:SUV, Alphas, The Good Wife, The Nine Lives of Chloe King, Melissa and Joey, Royal Pains, Breaking In, Hart of Dixie, Hawaii Five-O, and Body of Proof

Tos' :
Mad Men, Dexter, Fringe, Chuck, Castle, Psych, Parks & Recreation, Community, Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, Futurama, Being Human, White Collar, Louie, New Girl, Up All Night, Revenge, Person of Interest

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Watch: Prison Break, Supernatural, House, Gilmore Girls
Want to watch but always miss it: Bones, Grey's Anatomy, Veronica Mars
Future Shows, I'm planning on watching: Jericho, Heroes..

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Desperate Housewives, Brothers & Sisters, True Blood, Dexter, Weeds, Big Love, How I Met Your Mother, The Big Bang Theory, One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, 90210, Smallville, Scrubs, Better Off Ted, Grey's Anatomy, Lost, Private Practice, Ugly Betty, The Office, 30 Rock, Top Chef, So You Think You Can Dance, The Hills, My Life on the D List, American Idol, Dollhouse, Mad Men, Nip/Tuck, Fringe

New shows: Melrose Place, The Beautiful Life, The Vampire Diaries, Flash Forward, Bored to Death, Glee

everwoodfan52 : (past and present)
Friday Night Lights, Chuck, Dexter, Drop Dead Diva, Royal Pains, Modern Family, Rookie Blue, Pretty Little Liars, Hart Of Dixie, and Everwood (re-watching DVDs), Revenge, The Good Wife
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MrsBrown : The Office, Lost, Friday Night Lights, Brothers and Sisters, Battlestar Galactica

BepperGirl: Being Erica, Bones, Chuck, Dollhouse, Drop Dead Diva, Friday Night Lights, How I Met Your Mother. Leverage, Psych, Pretty Little Liars, Castle, The Vampire Diaries, White Collar, Rizzoli & Isles, Suits, Rookie Blue, and Lost Girl.

ShadowMagist: How I Met Your Mother, Greek, Smallville, Supernatural, Desperate Housewives, Brothers and Sisters, Glee, Vampire Diaries, It's Always Raining In Philadelphia.

Thief Of Love: Mad Men, Psych, Gilmore Girls, The Office, Parks & Recreation

Shelby (Cowgirl08): Chuck, Friday Night Lights, 90210, One Tree Hill, Greek, Secret Life of the American Teenager, Make it or Break it, White Collar

Rolfi Cole: Outsourced, Modern Family, Castle, Chuck, Psych, The Mentalist, TVD, Community, House, Ghost Whisperer, Smallville, Supernatural

ForVanAngel: LOST, Gilmore Girls, Six Feet Under, Everwood, Friday Night Lights, The Wire, Dexter, Dawson’s Creek, Roswell, Seinfeld, Malcolm In The Middle, Scrubs, Breaking Bad, Parenthood, Home Improvement, Rescue Me, Mad Men, My So-Called Life, Parks and Recreation, Brothers & Sisters, Switched At Birth, Eli Stone, American Dreams, Community, Skins UK, The Big Bang Theory, One Tree Hill, The Shield, Alias, Freaks and Geeks, Party Of Five, Ally McBeal, Death Note, Lizzie McGuire, That ‘70s Show, The Middle, The L.A. Complex, The Hour, The Wonder Years, Wilfred US.

Blue Valentine: Modern family, Brothers and Sisters, Fringe, How I Met Your Mother, The Vampire Diaries, 90210, Nikita, One Tree Hill,
Favorite Shows: Everwood, Joan Of Arcadia.

Patricia: Drop Dead Diva, One Tree Hill, Pretty Little Liars, Cheerleader Nation, American Idol, Bones, Boston Med, Brothers & Sisters, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, Friday Night Lights, Gilmore Girls, Law & Order: SVU, Rooke Blue, Oprah: Behind the Scenes, Ellen, What I Like About You and Without A Trace.

LemonyPie: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Frasier, Dawson's Creek, Revenge, Suburgatory, Hart of Dixie, The Middle, Modern Family, Dancing with the Stars, Community, Dexter, Against the Wall

Shu/ds44: Currently Watching: Castle, Arrow, Switched at Birth, Suits, Dallas, Covert Affairs, Twisted and Teen Wolf

Louisa C
: Watched in full or almost: The OC, Veronica Mars, Gilmore Girls, Desperate Housewives, Monk, Medium, Parenthood, The Big Bang Theory, Everwood, Being Erica, Grey's Anatomy, Castle...

Purchased, but not yet started or only a few episodes/1st Season watched: Friday Night Lights, Drop Dead Diva, The Closer, Gossip Girl, Once Upon A Time, The Killing, New Girl, My Name Is Earl, Fame, Parks & Recreation, In Treatment, Damages, The Good Wife, Fringe, White Collar, How I met Your Mother, Dexter, Game Of Thrones, Pretty Little Liars, Smash, Lie To Me, Dawson's Creek, The Mentalist...

Alwayshappy: Shows that ended :
Gilmore Girls ( which is my absolute favorite EVER ), Charmed, Everwood, One Tree Hill, Dawson's Creek, The OC, Damages, The Closer, Desperate Housewives, Brothers & Sisters, Lost, Fringe ( although I'm not up to date yet ), Medium, Ghost Whisperer, Ally McBeal, Private Practice, Veronica Mars, In Treatment, Roswell & Sex and the City

Shows that are still airing :
The Good Wife, Grey's Anatomy ( those 2 are my favorite 2 shows on the air right now ), Revenge, Bones ( not up to date yet - I'm at the end of S6 ), Once Upon a Time ( not up to date-watching season 1 for first time ), Vampire Diaries, Criminal Minds, Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, Community, The Killing USA, Downton Abbey, Parenthood ( not up to date yet ), Bunheads, Switched at Birth ( not up to date ), Californication, True Blood, Suits ( not up to date ), Scandal ( not up to date ), Major Crimes ( not up to date ), Homeland & White Collar.


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Pretty Little Liars 4.16

Well, it was a crazy one. I still hate Ezra a lot and it was so disturbing how that wimpy moron was in the face of a woman in a car screaming at her like an out of control prick. He makes me sick.

Aria dumps Jake, who is a decent, caring normal guy for that pile of crap named Ezra. Jake even saw Ezra screaming at that woman and even after Aria broke up with Jake, he still tries to warn her about Ezra. At least Aria had the sense to question Ezra on why he lied to her and who was the woman he was yelling at. You can see in a subtle way Aria is starting to question her now exclusive teacher boyfriend. I can't believe I even have to write that. He also seems responsible for putting sharp stuff in the exercise equipment that cut Jake.

Spencer got dumped on twice, once by Toby and then Emily. Not that I totally blamed either Toby or Emily for telling her to stop. Still, I felt badly for Spencer. I also don't trust her father in the least bit. He's hiding something and now we find out Mrs. D is affiliated with Radley too. He completely manipulated Toby to sign on the dotted line. I'm not buying that Jason is having issues either. I think that's part of some sort of cover up but I don't know what it is precisely. I speculated way back in the day that the key to Toby's mothers' death is tied directly into the main mystery and I still maintain that.

I absolutely LOVED the Ashley/Hanna scenes in this episode. One of the best mother/daughter pairings I've ever seen on TV. I love them!

Is Ali manipulating Emily again and trying to divide them? I am not sure. I don't know what to believe at this point. However, I DO buy that she's scared, no terrified. I buy it. I just don't know if she told Emily she cannot be sure she can trust the others because it's the reality or she's trying to divide them. I mean, maybe she told Emily that because she knows Aria's next to creeper, Ezra? It's possible. Or she really does want to divide them. I can't be sure. I just know that she looked terrified last night. I also remember an interview with Sasha and she made it seem like Alison has changed. That is my interpretation though and it could be wrong. I have to see more of this storyline to know what Alison is up to precisely. Some people say she's a sociopath and sociopaths do not change. I just don't know what I think though, even with my psychology knowledge. Has she exhibited sociopathic behavior in the past? Yes, she has, but do the writer's believe she has? In addition, is she showing extreme remorse in her apology to Emily and does she seem legitimately afraid? Yes. Sociopaths can also be convincing and play it up, certainly. Still, I just don't know what to believe. Spencer IS usually right though so I am keeping that in mind.

At any rate, good episode. Still, so many questions unanswered as the mystery continues on and on.


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that is just awful. I was really into that show and thought something was wrong with my programming and kept recording odd shows around the TGW was airing so maybe I'd catch it. I hate when people just decide after so much promotion was done. That's why I started to watch it because of all the good promos they had for it.


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It's more than obvious that Ezra is -A and he had something going on with Ali. But that's about it. I'm thinking he is the board shorts guy. I just hate how they are leading up the girls finding out. Them thinking Toby was -A is bad enough. They thought he was guilty of killing Alison when the show began, so it wasn't too far fetched. But finding out Ezra's involvement, it's gonna destroy them. I keep thinking it's gonna be that next episode, but hasn't happened yet. So I'm hoping it's next week.

I really like Travis, I guess I just don't trust anyone since I see everyone as -A when they get close to one of the girls But I like that Hanna is seeing someone new and not moping herself around Caleb not being around.

Nice to see Ashley and Hanna doing something fun. Who knew there was a plate throwing place where you can just smash plates all night. I wanna know where that kind of place is. I love Ashley getting more involved in Hanna's life, especially at such a vulnerable place with Caleb leaving and figuring out how to relive again. Ashley is just the most awesome mom!

About the Radley thing, I see it being this big conspiracy involving the Dilaurentis family and Jessica herself. I like that Peter is investigating it, but I wonder what secrets that place really has.

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Ha! I take it none of the Gossip Girl writers/producers are affiliated with the show? LOL

I actually saw the promo of this show the other day and it was quite moving. I really do have to check this show out!




It really sucks. I don't know why Hallmark went there. It's lame. Like I mentioned, I was shocked over the four episodes nightly. That is not the way to allow ratings to happen. It just made zero sense. I don't know what the network was thinking.



I can't imagine how Aria is going to react. Hanna is taking the break up with Caleb terribly. I don't think her heartbreak is going to come close to what Aria is going to feel. She is going to be shattered into tiny pieces. I don't know how she handles it without psychiatric help, even. We know her uncle and brother have a history of mental illness. I can see Aria needing help mentally after finding out. She is going to collapse, she really is.



Agreed.



I love her!

I want to also find that place where you can smash plates. That was so cool. LOL



I think there's endless secrets.

I want Mona back on the screen again soon. Through Mona we always find some stuff out. In fact, I bet Mona has almost 95% of this mystery already solved.

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I'm always looking into what could also be there. The writing is superb and the emotional connection all the characters have is just off the charts.

I just wonder what anyone was thinking. They had so much promotion for the show and then they just pull it without any notice and put on random programming. I think The Waltons is airing now in that time slot and that show aired thirty some years ago. No idea what happened there. Unless CBS had some contract issue making Hallmark pull the plug



Aria's entire world is Ezra. She has fought everyone on saying her relationship with Ezra has no valid place in anyone's world given he's a teacher and she's his student. Everything Aria has done in the past two years has been for her relationship. She tried to move on, found a great guy, and ultimately went back to Ezra. And then I can't imagine her reaction to the question I hope Ezra has to answer "why". Because that's ultimately going to be the most earth shattering. Why he was doing all of this and how he could make Aria believe he's this great man when he's making these girls lives hell on a daily basis.



Mona has definitely figured out Ezra has involvement in -A, not sure if she realizes if Ezra is -A. That's still debatable. Mona is always quick to tell the girls when she finds this amazing clue before they do. I wonder what Mona is waiting for in revealing the big secret.

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You could be onto something about CBS and Hallmark. It absolutely could be something like that. Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense.



I know. It is really going to be heartbreaking. I almost don't even want to see it because it's going to be painful. I even had to watch the scene when Aria found out Ezra never went out of town in this past episode with my eyes half closed practically. There's something about Aria that's so fragile and sensitive. I can't really explain it. She is starting the process of figuring it out, too. I was amazed that she took what Jake told her and followed up by asking Ezra about it in a slightly accusatory way. Deep down, Aria knows something is off already and it's only going to continue. She's going to be temporarily destroyed, she really is.



I know! She's calculated so there has to be a reason why she's waiting on this. I also want to know who Mona is working for or with.
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Also from the last thread.....


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I agree. I wouldn't mind Alicia being on her own as Ingmar suggested, but I believe she let Peter off the hook much too easily and I'm really surprised by that.

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Tell us? Are you kidding. They just stopped airing the show without even one word! How rude and inconsiderate is that?!?

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very true. An official announcement would be pointless now, it wouldn't bring the show back. Now every show that Hallmark puts on I'm gonna wonder if it's worth watching or are they gonna yank that one too

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Nope not at all lol. Laurie worked on the ghost whisperer and felicity. But it's so intense.
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very true. An official announcement would be pointless now, it wouldn't bring the show back. Now every show that Hallmark puts on I'm gonna wonder if it's worth watching or are they gonna yank that one too
Patricia, I will never trust Hallmark again and will not invest my time and energy into any series that they promise to air.


ETA: I also read that Drop Dead Diva was cancelled. Some reports say that is has been uncancelled. Does anyone know which it is?

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For Aria to consider Jake's thoughts was something maybe Aria has been thinking about. Plus, Ezra is asking a lot more questions about where Aria is going and why she does what she is doing. Ezra's being very weird compared to the way their relationship has been. I'm glad she's questioning Ezra now but the reveal will still be heartbreaking. I just wish Ella was going to be around to help Aria through her heartbreak.

I do hope Aria doesn't find out where her life is in danger. But you know with this show, it probably will be.
Exactly. That is probably going to be the case. Good point about Ella and wanting her around. She is absolutely going to need her mother for help. She can't exactly go to her father who doesn't approve of their relationship anyway. I mean, he wouldn't be rubbing it in her face of course but she would still feel 100% more comfortable with her mom who has always been there for her.

Yes, the dynamic between Aria and Ezra is much different. You can just feel it and that feeling took place even before it was revealed that Ezra is somehow involved. Yes, I want Ella back.

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For sure. The only Liar it appears Mona gives a rip about is Hanna and that's not even something Hanna can truly accept yet either. So Mona's motivation is always going to be in question, especially since she hasn't been around the girls in a while. Her appearance, alone, will have the girls questioning what she's up to.

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Just the music I heard in the clip provides me with a feeling of high quality and intense drama. You're right about questioning the network. It doesn't "feel" like The CW at all.

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I'm caught up on PLL. I'm so sad. I loved Ezra/Aria and they feel completely ruined now. I don't think there is any going back; they're making Ezra so evil. This sucks.
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I'm caught up on PLL. I'm so sad. I loved Ezra/Aria and they feel completely ruined now. I don't think there is any going back; they're making Ezra so evil. This sucks.
I've never been a fan but I feel very sorry for the shippers. I couldn't even imagine how frustrating it must be. In the first two seasons (certainly, the first season) this pretty much was the most highlighted ship of the series. So I definitely feel your pain. Still, I am of the belief that somehow they will be salvaged for some shippers. I don't believe Ezra is the top bad person and there's probably reason to believe they will pull a Toby 2.0 showing he's not as bad as it appears.

MK even told the shippers to hang in there. I feel like she has something up her sleeve as far as saving the ship. It's just a question of if the shippers will accept the storyline and how she goes there. I feel your frustration. At this point, I don't see how there is any going back. However, I believe they will TRY to go there. Like I said, it's all about what the shippers accept as the storyline moves along.

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This entire story is disturbing to me.

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I've never been a fan but I feel very sorry for the shippers. I couldn't even imagine how frustrating it must be. In the first two seasons (certainly, the first season) this pretty much was the most highlighted ship of the series. So I definitely feel your pain. Still, I am of the belief that somehow they will be salvaged for some shippers. I don't believe Ezra is the top bad person and there's probably reason to believe they will pull a Toby 2.0 showing he's not as bad as it appears.

MK even told the shippers to hang in there. I feel like she has something up her sleeve as far as saving the ship. It's just a question of if the shippers will accept the storyline and how she goes there. I feel your frustration. At this point, I don't see how there is any going back. However, I believe they will TRY to go there. Like I said, it's all about what the shippers accept as the storyline moves along.
Even if this is Toby 2.0 (which I don't think they should do that - why recycle storylines?) I am not sure if they could successfully turn this around. At this point, it feels ruined. They went too far. Ezra's involvement in all of this would have to have a really, really great explanation for me to feel the Aria/Ezra connection again. We have talked about this before, but I really hate when shows think they can do anything to a couple but have them end up back together and think the fans will be cool with it. So annoying.
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This entire story is disturbing to me.

Wow. I had not heard of this. That's horrifying.
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Yes it is. I'm sure it's especially horrifying to anyone with children.

The more I see of Salem, the better it looks.

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Aria dumps Jake, who is a decent, caring normal guy for that pile of crap named Ezra.
I like this guy. Aria made a huge mistake dumping him.

As far as the punching bag is concerned...they're making it so obvious that it's Ezra that put the knives there. Ezra was with Aria and didn't find out that Jake squealed on him until he met up with her. So...why would he have been pissed enough at Jake to do that? He knew that Aria was going to break up with Jake.

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Spencer got dumped on twice, once by Toby and then Emily. Not that I totally blamed either Toby or Emily for telling her to stop. Still, I felt badly for Spencer.
I honestly didn't feel badly for Spencer. I like her, but she really pissed me off this episode. I want Toby to end this quest regarding his mother at Radley. Spencer wouldn't let him! And.....she ruined Emily's meeting with Allison. she really had a lot of nerve going there, because Emily told her that she had to go alone. Why does Spencer have to always put her two cent in and stick herself in everyone's business?
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A mom that throws plates with you has to be the absolutely best mom!


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It's more than obvious that Ezra is -A and he had something going on with Ali. But that's about it. I'm thinking he is the board shorts guy. I just hate how they are leading up the girls finding out.
It's so obvious that I don't believe it's so. There is something else going on here, but I don't believe that Ezra is "A".
I still don't want Aria with him. He is creepy.

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